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BJ260, vented, ZP TS

10 - 14 days to completion, plus delivery

what do you think of the colors?

edit to add: it has black lines

Looks pretty good. For packing ease, the center stabilizer should be a different color from the rest...but have you considered varying the stabilizer color? I bet that would look bad ass with all black stabilizers, but a blue center stabilizer. Wouldn't hurt the stealth factor, either.

It's all about looking good on video, baby!

edit to add: Black lines would look good on that color combination, too.

this is one already into production and almost done..

its official, I sent the money out today!!!

Congrats ... but is CR able to make a canopy in 14 days? Dang ... I ordered a canopy + container from BR and it's taking considerably longer. But I sit here patiently waiting for it's arrival (sometime in mid-April if I'm not mistaken).

By the way, mine will be

RED-RED-RED-BLACK-RED-RED-RED with BLACK stablizers and BLACK lines (I'm assuming the control lines will be RED) and the container will be RED with BLACK tie-die blotches.

naw not 14 days... I just lucked out. it was a stock canopy, and near completion; i just happend to like th colors and importantly it fit my needs...

my Blackjack was a stock canopy too and it's almost those exact colours, except the blues are all the same and the centre cell rib is a different colour, as Tom suggested in his post
it does look bad-ass with black lines...
I have a pic at home that I can post later if you want a little preview

take it easy

sam

I have the same colors on my Black Jack 240.

I looked up the canopy you're getting. It's coming with ZP "foreskin", and black lines. It's very nice!

I'm glad to hear that you opted for the 260 rather than the 240.

Enjoy and Good luck!
Tim

hell yea post it please

yea talked to alto of people abotu it... I am in that iffy weight range... decided to play it safe.... rather live to jump another day

there you go,
that's what my Blackjack looks like in action

how visible is the blue at night?

CR does not make the canopy. PD does. I have an ACE 240 with composite upper: SIL SIL SIL BBR SIL SIL SIL with back stab. Overall I'm impressed with the quality of the construction.

Years ago I was told a saying by an old jumper:

"If someone sees your canopy, you did something else far earlier that got you busted!"

Meaning, your canopy colors have less to do with you getting seen, than the preperation you need to do before the canopy is even open.

Just thought I would add that saying as it reminded me of the old days.

honestly, I don't know yet. I haven't gotten it out at night yet.

as a very lowtime jumper I've been fortunate enough to have had the opportunities to do all my jumps so far in the daytime

so, what Mick said, I think the colour of your canopy and gear/clothing is far less of a factor in your stealth than your planning and behaviour

and on the subject of night-time stealth and colours, I've heard (and it's been my practical experience too) that black is not the best colour to minimise visibility at night, grey is.
the reason for this is that unless you're in zero light conditions (which doesn't sound like the kind of conditions that anyone would want to jump in), black is darker than the general backgound and stands out more than a light-to-medium shade of grey does...

anyone have any info/comments on this?

(edited for my dumbass spelling)

You'll hear a canopy LONG before you'll see it.

feeling pretty stupid for not mentioning that now

I'm still in the sensory overload phase and I've only very recently started hearing my own openings or being consciously aware of the amount of noise I and those jumping with me make.

When I got my first canopy from Adam, I was told that the most stealthy colors where grey and midnight blue.
Solid (all cells) colors stand out more than broken up colors.
And Black is just too dark for most night time jumps.

I agree... grey is the best... just look at special forces halo canopies....

My current canopy is gray.
In my own very limited experience, I've spent what seems like a little more time with my canopy exposed on the ground than in the air -- especially given the fact that people don't typically look up particularly when they're, say, driving -- so I'm feeling like something that melts into the shadows well is a good plan.
Oh, and groundwork of course. My own very limited experience is that by doing your groundwork you can be marginally confident of stealth during your 10 sec canopy ride, but maybe while you're stuffing your canopy in the bag some car comes around the corner and you have to duck...

Maybe this is just a condition of my minimal experience level and the couple of places I happen to have jumped so far.

why is that? you mean that theres a bigger chance to see the siullete at the sky or what?
I use a Black canopy,whith a purple center cell and stabilazors,white and red lines.. What you see omst at it when its open is the vents..(do they make them black?? mine are white,which aint stealth at all..).

Just an quick add,as said before,the first thing notice is the crack as the canopy opens,that will always be noisy and bring attention,its up to you to smoke it low,so you minimize the time in the air were you can be spotted,oh.. and a cleaver aussi once said"its under the canopy people gets hurt,so its about minimize that time"(might not word correct but like that),sounds like the right attitude to me

The black with purple is still broken up colors. Althought alternating cells is just better.

Yes, the larger the target (3-7 black canopy cells), is easier to see against a dark blue night sky.
Grey is just closer to that color.

argh... what happened to 9 days to completion? I am trying to force myself not to be anxious, and just relax.....

ITS HERE AND ALL HOOKED UP
... NOW only if the weather would cooperate

What would you say is the best color scheme for packing? All my shit's red and black, so the colors are decided. I'm concerned more with packing right than getting busted or looking good.

I'd say mine is good, with the folllowing change:

As long as the center cell and center stabilizer are easy to pick out (i.e. an off color), that's the main thing.

It can also be handy to have the outside cells an off color, but it's not nearly as essential as the center cell.

it should all be black... inkluding ALL lines,that way its easy to make faults that cant been seen before opening

Looking good is evrything.. if you does so,you got away uninjuryed,and whith no bust/attention

okay,i better get a jump now...

I'd agree that yours is pretty good too. It's still just a parachute so if you understand it well enough, it shouldn't be much hassle no matter what color it is. I do like the center cell being a different color though. It makes it easier to pack in dim lighting conditions.

If you don't already have one, aquire a red LED light. Keep it in your BASE kit or on a key chain. Red doesn't mess with your night vision and it's much less noticeable from a distance than white light.

Thanks, Tom.

And to clarify (even though no one mentioned it yet), it's not that I don't care about getting busted, it's that I'm only jumping very low-risk or legal objects. I also sort of cater to the theory that if you get busted, it probably would not have been preventable by your canopy color selection (in most cases).

After packing it 3 times already, I find it pretty easy to pack with the black center celll, even with the black lines. and damn it does look good.....

Oh yea, the glide and flair on it is nice...


hehe.. had 2 guys looking at my canopy... chekcing out the vents...

it jumps nice!!!!!!!

did a pca from 370... LOOOOOOOOOOOONG canopy ride

if not it dont work proberly

i made a SL off 143ft and had a long canopy ride of 4 secs

god that your happy on your gear i just couldnt resist...