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BEST Container for Wingsuit BASE????
Looking for opinions on the best container for wingsuit BASE jumps. Would love to hear comments and experiences with your choices. I've searched the archives and found some stuff, but any help is greatly appreciated.
BSBD
Blair
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Re: [blair700] BEST Container for Wingsuit BASE????
Hey-

Check out that sweet Morpheus Tech. Gargoyle with the "dynamic corners". Yes, I'm completely biased since I own two but the rig is nicely designed from an air flow perspective and the dynamic corners allow the tray to open completely so that the tail pocket and canopy don't snag on the container during high forward speed wingsuit deployments.

http://baserigs.com/gargoyle.html


Baxter
Base 733.
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Re: [SkyFlyer] BEST Container for Wingsuit BASE????
Clicky!!!
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Re: [n2skdvn] BEST Container for Wingsuit BASE????
Damn, that rig is so fu¢kin' sweet.
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Re: [blair700] BEST Container for Wingsuit BASE????
Yo !

At the moment, there is only one wingsuit-specific container on the market, Vertigo's Merlin. It is by far the best one to use with a wingsuit, at least perfomance-wise. You can really notice a difference on the long flights. I have tried to push BR and CR to make something like that, but so far no luck.

If you don't care about your flight perfomance, any of the containers in the poll will work equally well safety-wise. If you use Warlock, make sure it has a plastic-stiffner in the pin cover flap ("wingsuit mod").

bsbd!

Yuri.
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Re: [outrager] BEST Container for Wingsuit BASE????
Thanks to those who've posted so far...
Yuri, the better flight performance you speak of..is this mainly due to the shape of the merlin container? I don't know much at all about this container, I was late to b-day last year and missed the trade show. I need to order some new boots next week, so I'll ask marta about it when I call, any further info on this rig, or any others is greatly apprectiated.
Blair
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Re: [blair700] BEST Container for Wingsuit BASE????
In reply to:
Yuri, the better flight performance you speak of..is this mainly due to the shape of the merlin container?

Exactly. The shape is the most important issue here. Once you learn to fly well, the container drag becomes a noticeable issue. The exact numbers will vary but i remember Patric getting about 10% better perfomance just by adding a deflector to his skydiving rig. Merlin has a teardrop shape with most of the bulk on top and in the middle of a container, which is a much better solution.

If you don't fly a suit or track hard, it works just like any other 2-pin rig.

bsbd!

Yuri.
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Re: [outrager] BEST Container for Wingsuit BASE????
In reply to:
At the moment, there is only one wingsuit-specific container on the market, Vertigo's Merlin.

I'm not sure if they'll build it for the general public or not, but I do know that Morpheus built a wingsuit specific rig (a modified Gargoyle), on request for Robert Pecnik (who basically told them what he wanted in terms of airflow considerations).
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Re: [outrager] BEST Container for Wingsuit BASE????
I may be being "thicker than a whale omelette" but I can't find anything about the Merlin; any links anyone?

cheers, Jules
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Re: [julesUK] BEST Container for Wingsuit BASE????
In reply to:
I may be being "thicker than a whale omelette" but I can't find anything about the Merlin; any links anyone?

I don't think they've updated Vertigo web site in a while. Email or call Martha and Jimmy:

phone /fax (435) 259-1085
adrenaline@vertigobase.com

bsbd!

Yuri.
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From Vertigo
OK, we are guilty of not updating our website in awhile. Give me one day and I will have a link to pictures and a description of the Merlin. I will post it here.
Thanks,
Jimmy
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Re: [blair700] BEST Container for Wingsuit BASE????
The All New DEFIANCE.
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The Merlin
The Merlin is designed specifically for wing suit flight. The reason that it has been rather difficult to find information on it is because we have just finished prototyping, testing, tweaking, retesting, etc… With the help of Yuri and a few other test jumpers, we are now quite sure of the design of the Merlin. What separates the Merlin from a standard BASE rig are the following features:
When a person flying a wingsuit throws out the pilot chute, it is usually recommended that they continue to track through the deployment sequence. With a normal BASE or skydiving rig, the bottom corners create a lip which can distort the pack job as it is pulled over it. The “cornerless” bottom of the Merlin allows the parachute to be extracted towards the feet without having the bottom of the container(created by the sewn corners) in the way.
The bulk of the pack job has been distributed with the thinnest part at the bottom of the rig, much like the trailing edge of a wing. The bulk has been moved upwards with the thickest part in the middle of the rig and a medium bulk filling the top of the container.
The rig has been tapered back to the width of the tail pocket at the bottom to provide a cleaner airflow(on a normal BASE rig, this is the widest part of the backpad.)
The rig has been made a bit longer to make grabbing the pilot chute easier with the wingsuit due to the angle of the BOC(not perpendicular to the jumper’s body as on a normal BASE rig or skydiving rig.) The BOC must be angled to provide a cleaner airflow over the bottom of the rig.
The pin cover flap is tucked up into the top flap to create a no drag situation which could possibly open the pin cover flap. Stiffeners have been added to the pin cover flap for the same reason.
One thing to note is that in these pictures, this is the prototype prior to narrowing the bottom of the container, we've also done some cleaning up of the bottom corners and a few other minor changes.
Thanks!
Jimmy and Marta

edit: picture added ~Tom Aiello
Merlin.jpg.jpg
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Re: [jimmyp] The Merlin
The Merlin? seriously...? you learn all sorts of stuff when you dig way back in time... Crazy
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Re: [AndrewKarnowski] The Merlin
how bored are you dude? We got thwarted by fog here tonight. Unsure
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Re: [nicrussell] The Merlin
I heard... I've actually implemented the BASENet... it's like SKYNet, except that it only brings back useful information - like who's jumping what, and when, and where, and why Tongue
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Re: [AndrewKarnowski] The Merlin
it's refreshing to know at least someone researches the older posts.

AK as a role model... who'd a thought?
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Re: [blair700] BEST Container for Wingsuit BASE????
Surprised none of you have mentioned The Snekor made by Fly Your Body, AKA Loic Jean-Albert. This is a great wing suit rig. Yonkles are attached to your mud flaps instead of the risers. No need to unzip the arm wing or to cut them away anymore. You have complete control of your parachute before doing any of this. The rig is also low pack volume/profile and very aerodynamic. Light too.
Shane
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Re: [epibase] BEST Container for Wingsuit BASE????
epibase wrote:
The Helium. It's based on the gargoyle, but has a lower profile. the floorplate closing option is great for thinning the rig out. it also has the dynamic corners which makes the container open flat. and yes, i am biased too. i own a gargoyle and a helium.
-Lane

The Helium looks like a pimped Gargoyle, no matter how you try to modifying an old chevy it still a old chevy..
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Re: [nicrussell] The Merlin
nicrussell wrote:
how bored are you dude? We got thwarted by fog here tonight. Unsure


Seriously? Damn, it was clear as can be when I drove by and a little after 9:00.
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Re: [hookitt] The Merlin
Seriously! The fog was pretty bad around the object. It was sad, but we walked away. :-(
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Re: [wwarped] The Merlin
wwarped wrote:
it's refreshing to know at least someone researches the older posts.

AK as a role model... who'd a thought?


just wait until you see what I'm actually working on.... I've learned soooo much about base jumping over the last couple weeks.
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Re: [Cliff_Huckstable] BEST Container for Wingsuit BASE????
Shane, the thread is OLD, circa 2003. but Andrew went and dug it up because he is stuck in BFE and has nothing to do.
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just wait until you see...
AndrewKarnowski wrote:
what I'm actually working on...

Plan on hitting an antenna or crane next? LaughTongue

Of course just joking, and if you need
something new to razz me about... well
early on the 31st it took me 45 minutes
to climb up to 590 feet.

The other two guys were very cool about
taking extra breaks and waiting for me!
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Re: [AndrewKarnowski] The Merlin
 


For a dedicated slider up rig Trango together with Razor or Hybrid L/D+
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Re: [unclecharlie95] The Merlin
If I lived in Europe I would probably do the same. The Valley here is....Frown
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Re: [blair700] BEST Container for Wingsuit BASE????
Why isn't AK-47 part of this poll? I realize this poll is years old, but Andrew (AK-47) should update it.
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Re: [blair700] BEST Container for Wingsuit BASE????
trango, Hybrid LD+
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Re: [blair700] BEST Container for Wingsuit BASE????
razor + trango !

hannes