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Nowadays everybody wanna talk like they got something to say
But nothing comes out when they move their lips
Just a bunch of gibberish
And motherfuckers act like they forgot about UHUCK


UHUCK 2.0 is up and running


Poll Question: How funny will the totality of UHUCK 2.0 be?




P.S. Hey Ah, Chet, Ya Sexist...

You didn't even put Jean's website on there. -- "...his wife..." -- Yeah, you mean, BASE 3.


I've got a buncha opinions for ya... (1) Attack Helicopter Pilot; Awesome. (2) Your Page & Posts; Not Awesome.

Why are you mocking them. Yes, other people have made efforts. Yes, other organizations have come and gone. Yet to this very day, ya still can't get a permit to jump El Cap. If that is ever going to change, people have to keep trying. If you've got ideas, get involved and help. Otherwise, let's all wish them luck.

The best way to gain access is to demonstrate that BASE jumping can produce gains (usually in the form of revenue) in excess of the costs (usually in the form of environmental damage and dead bodies).

Two ways to do this:

1. Increase the number of jumpers willing to pay a reasonable permit fee to offset the risk. Given the nature and size of the risks, this seems unlikely.

2. Increase the cost of the permits such that our small number of jumpers are able to cover the risk. Given that getting money out of BASE jumpers is harder than squeezing blood from a stone, this seems even less likely.

You are right that nothing can be accomplished without trying, but I would hypothesize that any form of "trying" that doesn't involve a meaningful amount of lobbying (read: money) is a long shot, at best.

All that said, good luck!

I don't think I agree with that. Does the NPS make a profit from climbers? Backcountry backpackers? Hang gliders (do they still allow that?)?

They're a government entity, and they receive a budget to manage the parks. The question is whether they deem jumping to be an 'appropriate' use. So far they do not. The ways to get a change in their policy is either to convince them that it is, or to convince a higher court who could order them to issue permits. And yes, the lobbying for the first option, and the suit for the second one would cost money, but not in the form of permit fees.

I think of the moment in 'Sunshine Superman' where former chief ranger Bill Wendt says 'maybe i was too hard on them', (or words to that effect).

The difference between BASE and climbers is...climbers are already there. The burden is on the Park to show that climbers need to be removed. The burden is on BASE jumpers to prove that they deserve to be there. That's a much taller order.

Inertia is bitch...especially when it comes to bureaucracy.

Climbing used to be a lot more loose in the park than it is now. Main reason: the impact of the climbers exceeded the benefit. Risk, reward. Cost, revenue. It's very simple.

Good luck!

I see your Eminem and raise you a Taylor Swift

And the haters gonna hate, hate, hate, hate, hate
Baby, I'm just gonna shake, shake, shake, shake, shake
I shake it off, I shake it off (Whoo-hoo-hoo)

Anyway, maybe the page is pointless, maybe it will provide some value. All this info is scattered to the wind online. Thought it would be helpful to put it together, work toward something productive.

Send me Jean's website and I'll put it up. And anything else that would be valuable. There's at least a half dozen asks on the website for more info from people. Want to write something and I'll make it a blog post? Hit me up.

Also, I voted for George Washington in the post. As a Marine, how could I not?

I think it was worth the T. Swift joke. Well played!

does anyone have that hide heid app still? will it work to hide coco?

Dude...

Anyone who is paying attention and has a decent memory, should find this quite comical.

Just between You & 1969912, this stuff is getting funnier & funnier by the day.

However, I most definitely Do Not anticipate Tom finding this amusing...

Did you fail to review / click on the link I quoted in my post?


You posting first, DUDE... is so Perfect.

But this makes it even better:


& his very first post too.


As for your comments...

...given that your BASE number is less than 20, I shall allow you to choose:

Would you like my response to be (1) slightly sarcastic (2) extremely sarcastic?

If you prefer, I could setup another poll. Or we could do a poll, here, within this poll.

Choose Wisely ... But Either Way, I'm gonna assume that dorkitup will enjoy... & concur.


P.S. Tom has not logged in since April 1st. -- Therefore, We're Back to Logan Paul in Yosemite, Too!

Interesting.

Until Further Notice...

You shall receive 22% less sarcasm.


Problem Though...

...is that I was far more so mocking Tom with That, than I was Uhuck United; the plumber with the poll.

So, within that "Swift Come Back" ... it's actually sorta, "Lame". -- Ahh, the Puns! -- I don't know about you!


Cause I'm Bringin' BJ Back (YEAH!)

Them Mofo'N Millennials Don't Know How To [Read] (YEAH!)

Serious Note, Chet. -- You need to read more of this forum; far more.

Start'n Here. -- You're "Lucky" people like Magot aren't here.

& So, "I'll Pick Up The Slack (YEAH!)"

(7) This too was a contributing factor:

Yo!
Not that anyone is ever going to get a permit in this lifetime (except maybe me and the friends I invite in about 10 years when I'm retired (not really)), but I deal with the Fed govt on a daily basis. If you have questions on how Fed.gov works, I can probably answer a lot of those questions, but I check this site almost never. Unfortunately, the vast majority of US voters seem to have virtually no idea (including many on this website) on how their govt actually works, unfortunately.

All that being said, I think the best chance to get a permit that anyone had in recent years was Dean Potter, but that's not going to happen now, unfortunately. If there's a current, famous, well known climber who's also a jumper and inhabitant of the valley, I hope they're building rapport and leveraging any sponsors to make a difference in the park. (Or redbull could probably do it in a month like they did on sacred Native American lands.) In my opinion, and it today's world, its just not going to happen (except redbull) if someone hasn't supplied a very real, and long-term benefit to the park. Not that anyone or any organization shouldn't keep trying. Or if you have millions of dollars to throw away on buying politicians, of course that could work too.

Good luck! If you ever get a chance to talk with 38 on this subject, please do so. Was enlightening for me many years ago!

My favorite G. Washington vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7iVsdRbhnc

You're a bit off on the Native American lands part. Historically, they have not been completely unfriendly towards us. Remember Canyon de Chelly? Co-managed by the NPS and the Navajos, the Navajos did issue permits for a number of years until the NPS talked them out of it. And remember that Mountain Dew commercial from the early 90's that was shot in the Grand Canyon? The NPS was never going to agree to that on their own, but Native Americans happily issued permits for that shoot in a part of the GC that was under their control.

Awww, Thanks Guys.

Always appreciate when others "further / make my argument" for me.

Well then... maybe you should get your shit together & log on more.

WWGWD