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Bryne Stavanger two Americans legal jump from the 67m building.

https://www.vgtv.no/...en-mister-kontrollen

Is this a canopy stall as a result of a tailwind/turbulence at exit? Brake settings?

I have only jumped the Perrine bridge since my FJC last year (and audit of the course this year) so I have no practical knowledge of an exit from a bulding. Tom's lecture on exiting from buildings discussed some of the issues I see in this video. I'm not encouraged to jump a building in any kind of wind, if I ever decide to jump from them. As was stated in my course, you don't know what the winds are doing around a building, especially since they tend to put buildings near other buildings which further complicates the situation turbulence wise.

I hope the jumper recovers fully.

It looks like to deep brake settings, and low altitude not giving the canopy time to reinflate.

It seems to me that there may be some wind involved too? It appears that the PC gets whipped in front of the canopy really damn early, before it starts stalling or going backwards. *shrug* Maybe a little of both?

To me it looks as if there is a tailwind, jumper jumps in deeply set brakes (hard to tell if they are too deep, or just influenced by the wind), and the parachute immediate goes into a backwards stall/flight due to the deflection of the tail...Whats interesting is it doesnt look like the jumper ever unstowed his brakes (still tail deflection before impact), so im not sure what caused the sudden surge forwards into a dive, but with winds and surrounding buildings it could have just literally been a change from lots of wind to no wind as the jumper backs into a different area.
And this is why you dont jump buildings in wind, or jump custom/deep brakes in wind off any object.

A little PLF training might have helped him a bit.

Anyone know the extent of injuries here?

Google Translate of the article https://www.aftenbladet.no/...ikk-hardt-i-asfalten.

Basehopper jumped from Høghuset on Bryne and went hard in the asphalt

Two base jumpers from the United States were going to jump from the high court Forum Jæren on Bryne on Tuesday night. It did not go well for one.



Geir Sveen
JOURNALIST

Ellen Kongsnes
NEWS MANAGER


It was in the 18th tuesday evening that two base jumpers would venture into the high school in Bryne center. The first thing that jumped went into the ground, so there was never a hope for a nest man.

Afterwards, the jumpers did not jump on the grass as the plan was, but in the asphalt in front of the Garborg Center and inflicted damage to the legs. He was aware when he was taken to hospital with an ambulance.

"The police are informed of the incident," says Operations Manager Sølvi Ravndal in the southwest police district.

Both base jumpers have over 1000 parachuting jumpers and many base jumpers. They came straight from the big base jump hit in Lysebotn, where another American died.

Forum Jæren, the high house at Bryne, is 67 meters high. The base jumper who jumped Tuesday was injured.

In advance, both TV2 and Aftenbladet were the tips of the jump. Aftenblad's reporter also spoke with the jumps on the top of the house, some time before they jumped. Several spectators also saw that the jumper hit the ground hard.

Popular with high-rise buildings

Although the building is Rogaland's tallest with its 67.7 meters above the ground, more spectators wondered if there was enough height for a safe landing.

NRK has previously written about parts of the base jumping community in Rogaland, which uses high-rise buildings as jumps and publishes the videos on social media afterwards.

The police do not want jumping

In urban areas, it is not uncommon for base jumpers to jump from buildings, not just mountain rocks, like Kjerag.

- The high-rise on Jæren, blockade at Mariero, Rosenliblokkene, has all been jumped from, said head of Stavanger Baseklubb, Stein Edvardsen to NRK in 2012 .

In the same case, the police in Rogaland say that base hopping from buildings is not prohibited, but neither desirable.

"The police do not create a case, since nothing has been done illegally," says Sølvi Ravndal, operations manager in the southwest police district.

Mads Lerum is a lawyer in the southwestern police district in Stavanger, confirming that the police's attitude towards base jump from construction remains the same and that this is not desirable. It could put another's life at risk.

Operations Manager is not informed of the base jump Tuesday evening, but the lords office was informed locally.

It looks to me like the parachute goes backwards, then the jumper swings back underneath it and continues swinging back past the parachute, so the dive is caused by line tension and the position of the jumper relative to the canopy resulting in the canopy pointing down.

From watching the video that was posted on Facebook, it is very clear the jumper put the parachute into full brakes, holding the toggles very deep, and stalled the parachute just after opening shock. Then immediately letting it go into full flight, creating the pendulum putting him nearly level behind the canopy that was out in front of him. There was not enough altitude for the canopy to level out.

All the best and hoping a speedy recovery to his injuries.

Sparky.

I don’t think that’s it at all. If you look at the tail deflection, there is never a point where the canopy is released of brakes. There is always heavy tail deflection

Have you actually watched the video online?

https://www.facebook.com/...osts/837431019778707

Are we watching the same video?

Seriously, the one I’ve seen quite clearly shows the jumper get both toggles, burry them and hold them by his waste before letting them up to chest height and surging into the ground.
I really don’t think wind was an issue whatsoever.

Just because you pop your toggles doesn’t mean tail deflection stops. It only stops if you raise your arms. If you don’t, or in this case add additional imput, the tail deflection stays the same or increases further.


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Julian

Sorry guys you’re right. I was watching the video where the jumper is blurred out.
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Ya, watch the Facebook video and see how long he holds deeeeep brakes immediately after inflation. Holds the brakes way deep, canopy reverses then starts to stall

Food for thought... This might ruffle a some feathers...

Lets bring up the topic of proper Base Etiquette when visiting a foreign country and how to organise a legal base event in someone else's backyard. Just because they made it to the roof to jump does not mean it was well organised.

Still basejumping and basejumpers we are talking about. So,,,, I guess Stein already made a clear statement on the facebook page, confirmed by police, this was a legal jump, and no charges will be stated!

The police are only checking to see if any laws are being broken by doing the actual basejump. Which there are not any laws in place to forbid it from happening. So in short, the police don't have that much to say to prevent it from happening. Police are there to uphold existing laws, not make news ones because they have a personal problem and dislike the activity. It is normal procedure police dispatch is notified before an event so that they are made aware in case any calls come in so they know its happening.

Its the building management and property owners that make the decision if jumping can happen on their private property. They then "should" consult with their insurance & legal aids to ensure they are protected in case of any incidents. Usually specific waivers are made up, which normally take time before the jumpers take flight.

So therefore the comment that no charges will be laid is absolutely correct. This is because they had permission, and did not trespass on private property.

Not being charged with trespassing does not necessarily mean the event was well planned.

And hour point is? We experienced the same policy in the beginning og 90’ies as it is now, but we tried to be a it more careful preserving our objects, and then Tor Alex and next Oslo Base broke every rule, and nothing happend, exept Plaza Hotel, Tryvann (my tower still pissed off they made a boogie there week after I solved the access) and Breivik bridge! Later a bridge in Hordaland was forbidden , but much more than that except Troll wall never happend!

The two jumpers who attempted this jump were at Heliboogie in the days prior. Both travelled out to Lysebotn on the same ferry as me and back to Stavanger also. We shared a cabin at the campground and also spent many hours talking about BASE and other related subjects.

Both are new to the sport and in that respect, pretty inexperienced. Both were respectful guys and this most certainly was a jump sanctioned by the building owners/managers. The speed at which they were given not only permission but access also, made my head spin. I'm not 100% sure if that process started prior to traveling out to the Heliboogie, my guess is possibly, as it was staff at the hotel they stayed at in Stavanger that assisted in getting the clearance or at least making the connections.

There are plenty of questions still. Why jump that corner, over a 7+ meter high building? What were the winds really doing? What low alt experience do you really have?
At the end of the day, having a slightly off heading opening the wrong direction, in substandard conditions, caused a case of toggle panic. The subsequent deep brake input resulted in a stall/backwards flying/pendulum that ended in an unfortunate hard landing. He broke himself. No rules.

Was it wise? Probably not. However it's only on the radar because it went bad. Had it gone good we likely wouldn't have known anything.
If this had been an example of Object Burning then we could all flame away. But in light of all that happened it's a solid learning exercise for both jumpers involved. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.