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Any thoughts?
Anybody ever tried this before. I tried it a while back for couple of subterminal jumps and did not feel any difference in opening speed. Looked like a tighty way to "stow" the tail gate lines without any rubber band. Looks like when the pile of nylon comes out it all gets undone anyway. More of a nice way to keep the tail gate lines nicely in place than anything else. Any thoughts?
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Re: [e.a.hernandez] Any thoughts?
I get it that it's fun to troll on this site because of the hilarious reactions, but this is too far. Somebody else will want to try this.

And if you are serious. Man. Don't.
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Re: [milkflyrockclimb] Any thoughts?
OK MilkyFC

Can you add specific tech reasons you don't like this trial of line control?

G.
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Slider-UP Blanche Jumps ??
E, fwiw I would not do this sir.

I can achieve the same result
with less risk using a tiny bit
of thin, green, paper's tape.

My thinking is at 'speed' there
would be line friction and some
chance of the slider hanging-up.
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Re: [milkflyrockclimb] Any thoughts?
milkflyrockclimb wrote:
And if you are serious. Man. Don't.

What is your reasoning?

I would have said it would work just fine. I have actually done it a bunch myself. I doubt it truly has any "tail gate" effect but I do it because I feel that it keeps offending tension knot lines somewhat separate.
To the OP. I have personally jumped this configuration for the above reason but doubt it is an effective form of line control (the painters tape would be better for that). When jumping terminal I use your method and then stow the slider in the slider control rubber band. I actually used to do all slider up jumps like that but found the heading performance to be less than desirable sub-terminal so I stopped using the band on those jumps. I tested the 2 methods over about 25 jumps in the 600-900 range.
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Re: [e.a.hernandez] Any thoughts?
I put the red lines on top of the slider as in the first picture for ~80 terminal jumps. I didn't do the wrapping around.

I was initially taught, not to use direct control on the Atair slow slider and was recommended this method by a different experienced jumper (who actually recommended the method I am using now).

For the last ~30 jumps I switched to symmetric direct control via small rubber bands on the center C's that simultaneously keep the red lines in the center. The guy I initially learned from changed his opinion on direct control on the slow slider.
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Re: [GaryP] Any thoughts?
1) Anything that delays the descent of my slider is a cause for concern.

2) The wraps appear to load torque onto the lines, thus increasing chances of a line twist.

3) Why create a new system when there are multiple systems already designed and proven to work?
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Re: [milkflyrockclimb] Any thoughts?
milkflyrockclimb wrote:
1) Anything that delays the descent of my slider is a cause for concern.
What do you believe to be cause for a "delay"? Without the stow I see none.

milkflyrockclimb wrote:
2) The wraps appear to load torque onto the lines, thus increasing chances of a line twist.
Please explain so I can try to understand your thoughts here. Because I just don't see it.

milkflyrockclimb wrote:
3) Why create a new system when there are multiple systems already designed and proven to work?
In reality this was probably the original system.
Edit: Spelling.
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Re: [e.a.hernandez] Any thoughts?
I think its pretty unlikely to hurt much, but I don't know if it helps much more than making the folds towards the center (Tilley fold) as far as keeping the lines in the middle during inflation, which is kind of the whole point of the tailgate. I don't know if theres enough force to somehow asymmetrically inflate the slider and induce off headings. I personally wouldn't do it, but im not saying its going to kill you or anything.
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Re: [e.a.hernandez] Any thoughts?
What is the advantage of this system over the slider gate (tailgate on the trailing edge of the slider)? Just that you don't need a rubber band?

FWIW, a long time ago I had a friend who put velcro on his slider to hold it around the control lines like that. He swore by it, but it seemed kind of silly to me. I messed around with using rubber bands to wrap the slider around the lines, and couldn't see any real benefit, so I went back to a simpler configuration.
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Re: [e.a.hernandez] Any thoughts?
e.a.hernandez wrote:
Anybody ever tried this before. I tried it a while back for couple of subterminal jumps and did not feel any difference in opening speed. Looked like a tighty way to "stow" the tail gate lines without any rubber band. Looks like when the pile of nylon comes out it all gets undone anyway. More of a nice way to keep the tail gate lines nicely in place than anything else. Any thoughts?
I've got about 300 SU jumps packing exactly like this.
This is my go to pack job for SLider up.
I mostly wingsuit and I don't pull dirty low