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Tested new suit on Brento couple of days ago.
Check this out :) both jumpers are flying Mono.

https://youtu.be/5OCKoFYO2Hs

I think ill get mine in blue, it seems to fly earlier then the orange

Can I have your autograph? Please

Yah but orange has way more speed, hence why Phoenix fly uses it. This is simple aeronaticalcolorimetry really.

This video is actually a really good learning tool for people starting to jump one piece track suits. (Im editing my previous response because it was probably sounded a bit more critical than I intended). If these two pilots are indeed flying the exact same or extremely similar suits, the difference in their flight is a really good example of tracking steeply and obtaining lift with speed, vs tracking very close to the stall point of the suit.

Orange jumper. Seems to drop quickly, but much faster forward, and slowly seem to float up on the blue jumper as the flight goes on.

Blue jumper. Floaty exit, but never generates much speed. You can head a bit of potato chippy wind noise. Much higher than orange guy, but dropping farther back, and sinking slowly. Also maybe some slight instability (wobbly video). An impressive distance for sure by both suits, but very different flying style.

Tracking is the new wingsuit!

we can look at the blue jumper a little bit closer here)
https://youtu.be/1bJccuG-Amk

what was the choice of fabric for the suits? Para or ultralight?

Parapac. But can be ordered in ultralight fabric, if needed.

Yea man, that suit is quite the hit! I'm the dude that flew the orange one today!

Somehow I automatically assumed those suits were/are PF suits.
Oops..Airglide Mono suits.

Squirrel, PF and Airglide are making one piece tracking and suits and Sfly.
...missing any others?

Also, ultralight fabric suits....isn't it safe to assume we all need/want this?
Less durable for sure, but if it was durable as para wouldn't everything switch to ultralight fabric?
is that the only reason to not order ultralight, because it's less durable?

Would the performance of the suit be any different?

I believe some ultralight fabric has low-drag characteristics but I'd like to know more about it too if anyone has advice.

Ultralight fabric is much less durable and a bit more expensive. As for me, it makes sense if every 100 grams counts and every single part of your equipment is lightweight.

Like UL rig + UL wingsuit is expensive, but much more comfortable. And you don't care for durability, you're cool as fuck with all this ultralight stuff

Airglide now has on the contrary ultra-durable fabric, btw. It's a bit stiffer, denser and more slippery. And it flies different than regular parapac.

I think sadly sfly is no longer in the wingsuit/tracksuit game. The development of one piece tracking suits will be interesting because theyre simple enough that a person who is decently competent with a sewing machine can make one that flies compareable to the big companies. Im sure in a handful of years, they will all look exactly the same when we figure out what is the best (similar to wingsuits now), but for now, its kind of wide open and interesting.

I got a midair outside shot of it today, it certainly is big just looking at it or wearing it on the ground, and its not getting any better when its inflated. The silhouette resembles more a wingsuit than a tracksuit. But such a fun beast to fly!

It sure is huge! This pic is from their website, airglide.ru

Here's what it looks like in flight!

There is something a little perverse about this pic that I can't quite put my finger on.

From what I see on this picture : it's not a tracking suit, because you can't run full speed with ...

I still fly a prototype of Onesie which really (really!) look like this one. Same size, same side cells, same ending bellow the arms, same leg wing size, but no boosters. (I have a onesie too, but I HATE boosters, and the prototype start flying earlier)
I had to cut the leg wing in 2 pieces and put some strong magnets to make the suit ok for running. And when I say running, it's not running like a lady holding her dress. As Robi say, if you can't put your knee at belly level, it's not a tracking suit !


BTW, except the boosters and the running problem, this mono look nice !

It's kinda ridiculous to call these suits tracking suits. That being said, I think they are awesome!

You are right, but no need to re-invent the wheel, as the correct term was coined some years ago. The correct term, per one famous basejumper who really likes the color black, is

"shitty little wingsuit"



Kerkko
BASE1184


P.S. I got to see Alex K fly his Mono in Turkey off a subterminal cliff, and the performance was pretty impressive, as was the build of the suit.

Boom!

Wasn't "shitty little wingsuit" for a PTS/TS? That should make this just a "shitty wingsuit" :)

https://skyderby.ru/tracks/11119/video

You forgot me RBASEG
For the ultralight when most of your jumps are 2 to 4 hours hike you know why you do not care if it's less or more durable. BTW if basejumpers would just take care of their equipment like putting the stashbag under the container and the suit when putting the lines in the tailpocket you would be surprised by the durability of the ultralight fabrics

Back to the original subject, this looks like a good tracking suit. The next wingsuiter who want to call it shitty wingsuit I want to see his arms up over his head for his next running exit [/laugh]

+1

If you're gonna get a Mono and you want it shipped to the USA, just be sure to pay for it in a disputable way, use a private shipper like UPS, FedEx, or DHL, and pay extra for insurance. Because there's a huge chance it will never show up at your house.

New video about Mono
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFfL0vTcmNo

I've heard that you cannot pu your arms up when you push at the exit ?
Some testers could confirm or not ?

The suit I demoed was made for someone a bit shorter, my guess is that it's a little more restricting than my Onesie.

I should receive a Mono with my measurements in a couple days, rest assured I'll jump it like I stole it and will gladly give more feedback if anyone desires.

We can do s swap sometime Antoine, we're about the same size, and i'm craving to have a go on your suit anyway!




If you like your freedom, never buy a one-piece or, god forbid, a wingsuit!

See the screenshot attached.
If your suit fits you well it's not a problem.

It feels a bit tight when you are standing straight on the ground with your feet together and trying to fully raise yor arms. Even in this case just let your sleeve slide down and it will be ok.

I also heard opinion that it's difficult to reach the toggles or land without unzipping your legs. Reaching the toggles is not a problem at all, the suit doesn't restrict your arms movement in any way after opening. And landing.. If you're going to have a hurdle race right after landing, then yes, it could be a bit difficult :)))

A little teaser of whats to come: https://youtu.be/UMNLkERa49k

 

Actually i flew along it. And tracking isnt really freefall.

On a more serious note, there were no paragliders at the time because the storms started to roll in!

Rumour has it, its entirely possible to track over the PACKING area at Brento, with very reasonable altitude left and a 25 second canopy-ride. Maybe 25 jumps in, and the suit just keeps on giving!

So much fun! If you're looking for a real alternative to wingsuit-BASE without actually having to strap on a wingsuit and having to deal with a whole lot of issues, at the moment this is the one tracksuit to rule them all.

I tried fucking it up with with really dodgy exits and super sloppy packing, however, when i deploy.. I dont have a single worry in the world!

Hey I was TRYING to make it do weird shit...did you backfly your first time in a one piece tracking suit? ;)

The Mono and I get along much better now...

I've seen both Sausage and Onesie do that, and the Mono is bigger than either of them, isn't it?

I feel confident you can provide video if this is such a common occurence.

No video? Thought so.

I said I've seen it. I didn't say it's common.

I also don't exist to dig out video because you want to see it.

The video of of Yoshi doing it in the Sausage (and probably an earlier video of him in Cruise+) is on Youtube, and I bet you can also find video of Antoine doing it in both Cruise+ and XXX suit.

A quick search of Youtube turns up these--I'm sure there are plenty more:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2l5pvj6ZUWw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehkrYZ6777w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSthov8fujY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKLVbE3f9ig

That last one is Yoshi in LB, but it's pretty easy to see that he could make the LZ at Brento with that track.

If you learn to use the search function on Youtube, you would probably be able to see a lot more videos. You should look into that, because I don't have a lot of spare time to find them for you.

https://youtu.be/4dga0baANiw

Wow. Now that's tracking.

Landing zone and packing zone are two very different things. Every man and his dog makes the landing but not the packing area.

Well, since you broght up the claim, you better back it up with proof. Next thing you know I'll say i tracked to Torbole, but unfortunately, no video this time!

"Alternative facts" are not necessarily true.

After carefully cross-checking your non-linked videos, it's safe to say that the Mono is the King of Tracksuits. So, your argument again was?

That the pilot is far more important than the suit.

Oh, I see that you have posted video. ;)

Sure have. And if theres any contestant, its the beast from antoine, i agree. Pretty much same size suits, too.

And as for pilots and not the suit, i consider myself to be a mediocre tracker. Yet, i dont see anyone going further?

My own only argument is that there is a legwing with airfoils, so for me it is a sort of hybrid, not a tracksuit anymore.
Also I do not like the arm restriction (if it has not been change in the lasts weeks.
It does not take any fun out of it, and it's a really nice tool that is at least as powerfull as my biggest suit.

2nd about the packing area, you should have a FlySight, the place you are looking to when you pich is not the place you are. Most of the trackers who are making the landing zone in Brento in fact pitching before it or just when it starts.
On your vids you probably never pitch after the road, but you are pitching way further than most of the pilots.
Look at the map and at the video here for exemple:
https://skyderby.ru/tracks/13321/map
https://skyderby.ru/tracks/13321/video

So rather than waving dicks in the wind..we have a wonderful data collection and analysis site for gps. https://skyderby.ru/virtual_competitions

It looks like Angry Swiss Chris is 14th in the onepiece tracking suit 30sec event with distance 1132m
https://skyderby.ru/...titions/16/year/2017

And if we look at 2 piece tracking suit 30sec event i can see my overall best is 1107m.. Haha you got 25m on me
And Bjarte still has 27m on you in 2 piece PTS

https://skyderby.ru/...mpetitions/8/overall

Glad you like your suit

Also check out the new 60sec one piece base tracking event

https://skyderby.ru/...titions/17/year/2017

Track fast stay safe

All this Skyderby data are very exit depending.
You can dive way more on mushroom than at Brento so you will not get the same performances.
Data are cool, but not proof of anything if they are not compared to the same thing, specially in tracking.

hahahaha this is awesome nice one dunny.....

totally agree with this, we should have tracking comp 30sec race with exit categories

Yes mate. This is the point. WBR 10 year anniversary will include Tracking. 1 piece and 2 piece from Hellesylt and Gridset. Come join us. All welcome.