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Question for those that visit (or live in) Norway:

With the advent of the modern huge wingsuit and its capability of a quick start, has anyone attempted the old Rob Tompkins exit at Kjerag?

From looking at the old carnage reel, it looks like he was in a skyflyer. I would think maybe today's high performance suits might fare better but have no idea if anyone has attempted the exit since. Just curious...

Thx

He was in a Skyflyer 3.

It was 5 years since I watch that footage, but if I recall corectly he jumped from the plateu where the tourists are entering the "bolten". As far as I know "flying frenchies" opened that one in the modern days for WS followed by Bruce Lee - who later also jumped the bolten it self during heliboogie 2015.

If I'm not recalling corectly then Rob Thompkins must have jumped from what is now known as exit 4,25 or exit 4,5. Those two are jumped frequently every season with wingsuits. Funfact: Sweedish jumper Daniel Kivi actualy tracked at least one of them 2 years ago in his PTS....

 

My bad, I was refering to the fatality video (from the ground) where the jumper in red wingsuit atempted new exit inside the bowl at Kjerag - even though all involved though it was impossible and tryed to talk him out of it.... At least thats how the story went at my FJC...

Your picture seem to be out of date. Kivi has been very busy trowing rocks there 2 years ago. That is of course unless you randomly seen someone else tracking those other exits before him aswell...

To the OP: to this date the "bolten" is by far the most technical exit at Kjerag (and probably Norway), and I believe it's difficulty not going to decrease with the future technology development. https://vimeo.com/98808476

Where do we see the old carnage reel?

As dunny has said in the previous message, maybe private message us with the link to this fatality vid from what you saw in your FJC, (Does he do a Gainer and impact and roll down the talus underneath the bolten then if so that is exactly what I was referring to as it was taken from the landing area )

Yes I have seen people tracking these exits before and I never promoted the exits to be tracked because I did not want to clean up the mess they leave behind, most people overestimate how they track and at the SBK we don't promote that we try to teach people to jump smarter :)

Between exit 4 and exit 8 there is 100's of exits you could make but really whats the point the cliff has been jumped from most places, between exit 4 and Smell there is also plenty of exits one of the most dangerous was done back in 2011 more dangerous then the bolten done by a Northern Norwegian who i don't think promotes any videos or jumps anymore ,when he landed and I picked him up in boat he said he was glad he jumped it but wont be doing it again..

There is also a more technical advanced jump on the western end of lysebotn which looks over the town and is on the opposite side of where eagles nest is.. This jump is jumping into a canyon from the sign you can see and flying through a small crack for a few seconds before entering over the west end of town.. plus not to mention all the exits down the Fjord that requires a boat...

The video I've seen matches that account but is shot from off to the side (not the LZ) a bit below the exit point.

Is that the video you've seen?

It's on Youtube.

 

I'll see if I can dig it up.

The old carnage tape was put together at Yuri's apartment when he lived in DC, just before Bridge Day, maybe in 2000 or 2001?

I was present when that happened, so I have never needed to watch it on Youtube. I just remember when someone in Russia put it up there--maybe ten years ago? I think Yuri posted a link in this forum when that happened, but I might be wrong.

Anyway, let me see if I can find it.

As mentioned earlier it was 5 years ago since I saw that footage. I don't recal a gainer, and I would not think somebody would do it in a WS on their first jump from 4,5. So that is my reasoning as to why I thought we are talking about two different accidents. Now that we are on the same page, I agree that it is quite sad. I guess the smarter way of jumping we try to teach at SBK was different back then.

As for the exits - they still will be there no matter of yours or SBK's point of view on their difficulty. So since you choose to include exits 4,5 and 8, (them being at almost suicidal part of the scale of tracking in regular TS), I struggle to understand your exuse for why you would not include the other 8 (wingsuitfriendly) exits that are there (them being on a way moderate part of the same scale).

Anyways the picture is still a good info for jumpers before they arrive, but most will still use locals and familiar jumpers to get to those exits.

Rob definitely did a gainer on his last jump. That was his signature move and JJ and others told him not to do it at the place where he made his last jump so you are on the same page in that sense too: nobody thought it was doable, much less reasonably doable -- and they all told him so but he didn't listen. So IIRC Rob outpaced the other jumpers to the launch point and went off with only tourists watching so there wouldn't be any further discussion. Unfortunately, there wasn't.

It was a great picture when I made it 7 years ago, these days everyone has a huge wingsuit or PTS or onesie...

Most people who show up at kjerag are mainly beginners and like to be shown where to jump they don't normally take off to reinvent the wheel..

Except when the Heliboogie is on then a heap of jumpers with 100-400 jump range show up and instead of a hike they choose the elevator express..

I think its the same footage Rob Tompkins had a heap of jumps possibly (400-700) which was a lot back then and was definitely not a beginner but I believe he was told not to do a gainer at this exit he did and that was it.. These days with the inflation I think you could do it but really is it worth it? If ya wanna do a gainer in a wingsuit stick to exit 6 diving board or brento... I remember when I saw a guy doing a double gainer from exit 4 and just making it over the talus , I thought that was ballsy but he made it..



There will always be new guys coming and making their mark and leaving their mark as well it happens every 2-3 years..

Since this tread got originally answered right away and then deviated into discussions about footage, exits, pictures, gainers and such - and is still not moderated. I'm pitching in some more.

The most technical exit in Kjerag you are reffering to with its location, sure sounds alot like "foggy" done by Halvar Angvik in 2011 in 15 knots east winds - I would still say that bolten with it's 60m start is way more spicy then 150m on foggy, but that is only my opinion.

There is a difference between asuming where the exitpoints could be and actually jumping them. That is why when somebody do the work of "reenventing the wheel" as you call it, I believe they should be acknowledge for it (if that is their wish). Stein knows the history of most cliffs that has been jumped in that valley, and his genetation is probably acounteble for half of the exits there, but there are still untouched action left in the area (even though some like to think that everything has been done). Pluss you also have the modern day technology that opens up some of the old exits to new possibilities aswell (like the OP sugesting). For instance last season there was a danish kid, Kim Bagge in onepiece tracking over the fjord from smell (don't tell me you've seen that done too), and also the new wingsuit exits that keep opening up every season. It's all new and it is great to see that in a place that has been jumped more then 50.000 times since 94' people are still finding something to explore!

I like your last sentence, very true, however it is a personal choice and nobody (I hope) pushes people to do it. So when Kivi does something ballsy and technical like tracking exit 4,5 and opening 4,6 and 4,75 why not just let him have it as his mark? Sure, Polli could probably have done it, Rami could probably have done it - but they didn't, he did. And sure every "100 jump wonder" could have opened theese other two exits with modern gear, but again, they didn't - he did. And he shared the info with the rest of us, so now those who feel comfterble to track 8 sec rockdrop can have something more to do in Kjerag...

At the time 2011 with the suit this was considered ballsy as a motherfucker then the suits got extremely better and now inflate in a few seconds, Things change designs get better the sport progresses jumps that were considered pretty extreme and undoable are now doable with a lot more ease..
Still respect the way he did it never made it a big deal never produced an Athlete page just went around and jumped a heap of shit on his own.. Maybe get in touch with him and he can guide you there to jump the one between smell and exit 4 point, I can't remember exactly but I think he left a rope there and said he won't be jumping it again anytime soon

In another 5 years I am sure we will see something else there that will blow everyones minds at the time..

Never seen anyone track across the pond but onesie's are onesies everyone has their own opinion on that but that's a totally different thread and discussion..

Normally you find the ones who are pushing things end up on the list its a personal choice just hope people can try and understand that there is no fame in standing out.

I always tell people what my mentor would tell me Aim to be the 10th in the world all the time the ones at the top don't stay their too long..

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This article pretty much sums it up: http://www.basejumper.com/forum/BASE_Jumping_C1/General_BASE_F1/Rob_Tompkins_-_Recap_-_Press_Clips_P304599/

He jumped from the corner in fact the Norwegians named it "RT Jorner" norwegian for Rob T's corner. Now the most insane jump I've ever seen is the claustrophobia one - phuckin crazy!!

Be safe(ish) out there!
JJ