Re: [Mikki_ZH] 25.01.17 Tianmen Mountain China - WS fatality
Mikki_ZH wrote:
base44 wrote:
unclecharlie95 wrote:
The idea has been talked about and dismissed many times over the years at WWL, it looked so difficult I never measured it.
Chances are I'll be back there later this year and will measure it out of curiosity.
The most technical exit performed to date AFAIK is 180m / 180m, the numbers for the cave look to be more (horizontal) and there is also the turn to account for...
...and the associated
accelerated stall that caused him to fall instead of fly through that turn and used up whatever margin there may have been.
Is this a fact or an assumption? maybe he got into his flight but just ran out of altitude...
Both, Mikki.
It is a
fact of physics that it takes lift to turn and that unpowered aircraft lose altitude when turned.
It is an
assumption that he made his turn soon after launch and probably before full pressurization.
It is a
fact that less than fully pressurized wings are less efficient than fully pressurized wings. Therefore, the "accelerated stall" concept applies because a less pressurized wing cannot hold as much weight and still maintain flight in exactly the same way that a rigid wing cannot hold the extra weight of an added G-load and still maintain flight. In one case, lower pressurization increases the effective weight; in the other case, higher G load increases the effective weight. In both cases, the result is the same: the wing quits flying and starts falling, which changes the glide angle and the trajectory.
Beyond that is the
fact that whether he technically stalled or not, it takes lift to turn so even if he kept flying the whole time and never fell through any part of his trajectory after initial inflation, the turn did change his glide angle and trajectory.
It is a
fact that if you don't allow for this GA/trajectory change, you end up in the dirt if your margins are too close.
I don't remember the exact details of Alexander Polli's last flight, but IIRC he did more or less the same thing aerodynamically: He did a lift-eating maneuver without enough margin.
I have attached a rough diagram of how this looks. This diagram is not to scale and doesn't represent any specific glide angle; it just shows conceptually how turns and/or accelerated stalls affect glide angle and trajectory.
To conclude, I'm not saying he did not get into his flight; I'm
assuming that he got into his flight but just ran out of altitude
because he didn't properly account for the turn-induced glide angle/trajectory change that ate his margin.