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A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
Get one!

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Re: [BASE1817] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
Had only 2 skydives with it, but I was averaging a GR of 1.7 with a peak of 2.4. I havent even scratched the surface of what this suit is capable of.

It's a BEAST!

Flies very stable (as I'm used to with PF-products), pressurization is rocksolid, workmanship is flawless!
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Re: [BASE1817] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
Are you talking about the PTS or is there a new PF tracking suit not on their website?
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Re: [Zebu] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
Zebu wrote:
Are you talking about the PTS or is there a new PF tracking suit not on their website?

http://phoenix-fly.com/portfolio/onesie/.
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Re: [maretus] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
maretus wrote:
Zebu wrote:
Are you talking about the PTS or is there a new PF tracking suit not on their website?

http://phoenix-fly.com/portfolio/onesie/.

Markus beat me to it. Thanks! Smile
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Re: [BASE1817] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
How does the Phoenix-fly Onesie compare with the other one piece suits?
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Re: [baseDragon] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
I've only put two skydives on a Sausage and no BASEjumps, so it wouldnt be fair for me to compare. The first jump with it was a pretty wild ride, but the fit of the suit was also very bad. So there's that.

What i can say though is that the Onesie seems to have them all beat in terms of sheer size.

I should have a few jumps from cliffs soon and will let you know my impressions.
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Re: [BASE1817] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
I think other companies have proven that the suits with the most sheer size are not always the fastest or have the best performance but it will be interesting to here everyones thoughts and see some comparisons
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Re: [wasatchrider] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
I dont argue that, just what I observed. There were a few wingsuiters at the dropzone, when i geared up they came over to talk to me. Then they realized I put on a Tracksuit. Laugh
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Re: [BASE1817] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
Got the chance to put a few jumps on it at Monte Brento, who's familiar with the place, I tracked over the sunplate and still landed on the main landing area. This after a fully fucked up exit.

I still have to practice a whole lot more, but I'm pretty confident there will be great things happening in the future.

No video because I'm cool like that.

Cool
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Re: [BASE1817] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
I miss the good old days where no one had video, and everyone flew a v1 at 3:1 ;)

Was your fucked up start something you fucked up, or are you just learning how the suit likes to start? One of the things that sold me on one pieces was seeing how impressively fast some of the homemade Frenchy suits and the cruise were starting with a nice run up.

One piece tracksuit wars might be the new wingsuit wars. Ill be very interested to see where this all goes in the next few years. Im just skydiving the sausage for the winter, but man, all these new one pieces have pretty shocking performance. Backflying next to a funk in a tracksuit is not something I ever thought Id be doing.
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Re: [hjumper33] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
That comment was to be expected, no hard feelings! Wink

Completely fucked up myself, tried a more "wingsuit-style"-exit going straight into track position when my foot left the rock, but only ended up going head-low. Usually have some problems with speed-management since apparently i just like going too flat, but it just seemed what it likes/liked. I'm working on that.

Valley today with my best mate in his Sausage, Tuesday there will be more skydiving.

I didnt go for the backfly-inlets as per Robi's recommendation so wont be able to deliver anything in that regard.

Also had a chat with Jarno which gave me another few pointers. I'm still less than ten jumps in, still lots of practice to be done, but things are starting to click nicer and nicer with every subsequent jump.

If anyone's noticed, I gave up on the whole squirrel-bashing (always, and i mean ALWAYS in response to fanboys of the other camps attacks). If you enjoy your Vietnam little boys and girls made suits, more power to you! I just like the genuine inventors that produce at home, at factories I've had the pleasure to visit and see where the magic happens.

I'll keep this thread going and update whenever I feel the need to. Eventually there will also be video, outside at least as I've started jumping my G3 in the BASE-environment because I've also started fucking around with a Flysight that i got together with (and for) the Onesie.

This suit has soooo much potential. I feel like a little kid in a candyshop, totally overwhelmed by what is possible. As I stated before, MUCH more practice is needed to even get a feel for it's real capabilities.

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Re: [BASE1817] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
Vietnamese girls and boys need jobs too.
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Re: [BASE1817] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
Boasts about giving up squirrel bashing -> proceeds to bash squirrel

LolLaugh
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Re: [BASE1817] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
Yah, brand wars were way more fun when you could look at a suit and instantly tell who made it. I guess people kind of figured out what worked the best performance wise, and it got hard to bad mouth other suits since they looked and performed pretty darn similar.

I just hope whenever you see anyone in Europe flying an Ozone paraglider, you remind them that they are not made by genuine inventors and that little Vietnamese children make them.

Back to the original point, ill be really interested to see where track suits go, because I can see a lot of potential for innovation and development of a single piece suit, or even something like the split tail tony suit that won a base race last year. Im going to spend the winter skydiving mine and hopefully see what it can really do come spring.
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Re: [hjumper33] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
I dont know if you've noticed, but Paragliding is gay. And european paragliders are very gay, not even in the good, old fashioned bear-style gay, but BrĂ¼no-gay.

I've managed to cross river from Flowerbox today, and still pulled plenty high, but I'm a chicken, 10th jump in total sky- and BASE. I'm having so much fun I want to hump a dog, which is still less gay than paragliding.

Didnt I bash Squirrel before and never mentioned Ozone?
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Re: [BASE1817] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
Who still jumps flower box? ;) Like 2008 all over again. And the real name of Via Ferrata is definitely Mighty Penis, and always will be.

And yes, paragliding is gay, but speedflying is pretty fun.
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Re: [hjumper33] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
Didn't you hang glide back in the day? You don't speedfly! Liar!!!
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Re: [BASE1817] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
I achieved a 1.8 bravo with max GR LTD+ of 9.1 tango deuce on the V2 onesie from Robi.

Anyone been able to match that?
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Re: [Bealio] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
Bealio wrote:
Didn't you hang glide back in the day? You don't speedfly! Liar!!!

I got my H1 in 2009 I think, but never went again after the course ended. I actually did a decent amount of speed flying, but that came to an end with a nasty crash in the Remarkables in NZ in spring of 2013 on an unintentional downwind launch. Was really lucky to limp away after tomahawking so hard that only my feet were badly bruised (blew off the left shoe on the second rotation), and my helmet was cracked. I said to myself "I don't like this enough to justify how dangerous it is". And that was the last time I flew a speedwing.

Hows that for a tangent!
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Re: [hjumper33] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
Moderator, could we please move this post to another thread - way off topic. I suggest you title it: "I tried going gay, and sucked at it"
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Re: [Lau] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
I created this thread for those with an interest in the Onesie. Just a little more information than what is available at the moment (which is none). If you feel the need to clutter it up with cute shit-talking, please feel free to do so, because then I will stop bothering and just not give a shit.

Thank you for your consideration.
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Re: [BASE1817] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
Can you post some photos, please?

And if you have any hard numbers on GR or start arc in the BASE environment, that would be fantastic as well. I've seen the numbers from aircraft so up and down that I don't really trust them very much.

Thanks!
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Re: [TomAiello] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
I'll be in the mountains again in the coming few days, there's a chance for video or stills being available. Not doing videos myself, because, well, I'm cool like that. Unimpressed
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Re: [BASE1817] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
just tell them you lost your gopro(s), doesnt matter, ill take outside video for you ;)
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Re: [BASE1817] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
Thanks.

I'm mostly looking for still photos on the ground, with arms and legs spread out to see the suit, or just photos of the suit, especially if you can lay it down next to (or on top of) a Cruise+, Masai or Sausage.
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Re: [TomAiello] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
with all due respect, Tom, i'm not planning on letting you or anyone else lay anything down next to (or on top of) my sausage.
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Re: [BASE1817] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
Today, the cool kids took me to High Ultimate, thankfully i drank two irish coffees before, so my courage was up to the challenge. And no pressure in form of outside video (that's a lie!), and after a less than stellar exit and a bit of a wobbly flight, I crossed the road anyway. Still room for improvement!

Let"'s see how rockstar I go tonight, depending on that, more news tomorrow!

HAVE A VERY HAPPY NEW YEAR GUYS!

2017 will be AMAZING!

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Re: [BASE1817] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
Not my video, but damn, that is impressive!

https://www.facebook.com/...s/10154317835323691/
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Re: [BASE1817] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
"I didn't go for the backfly-inlets as per Robi's recommendation..."

Can you elaborate on Robi's recommendation? What was his reason for talking you out of the back-fly inlets?

thanks!
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Re: [freedom1] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
freedom1 wrote:
"I didn't go for the backfly-inlets as per Robi's recommendation..."

Can you elaborate on Robi's recommendation? What was his reason for talking you out of the back-fly inlets?

thanks!

At the time of ordering, price wasnt stated nor options. I've asked for "all options that make sense in the BASE-environment". He asked in return specifically if I wanted them, but I'm just dedicated to BASE. I'm ASSUMING there could be a little loss of performance, at least they're not necessary. And since I dont do aerobatics, there's really no need for them.

So now I have 5.10-BASEsoles, chest- and legwing-pockets.
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Re: [BASE1817] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
Beautiful picture of Onesie in flight!

Again, not mine!
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Re: [BASE1817] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
How long till we get people that have learn't to fly their suit in the tunnel at a exit point with no skydives or BASE jumps?
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Re: [Dadsy] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
Dadsy wrote:
How long till we get people that have learn't to fly their suit in the tunnel at a exit point with no skydives or BASE jumps?

I JUST had that discussion. If you want to be unsafe, a tunnel available or not, wont change the outcome. And I shouldnt talk because I didnt do the recommended 50 or 100 skydives on Onesie, so there's that.

Also, not really topic of this thread, so please take discussion outside of it. I would like to stay specific.

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Re: [Dadsy] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
Dadsy wrote:
How long till we get people that have learn't to fly their suit in the tunnel at a exit point with no skydives or BASE jumps?

Common sense dictates that there will be more tools for additional training (and guidance) available. Though most will skip that as well.
To those who want to rush, hardly any, or no skydives and zero tunnel time is still the fastest route in terms of rush.

Proving that point, we've already had many people with no experience at all at exit points on both cliffs antennas and bridges. And 'less is more' seems to be a general attitude among many jumpers.

I tend to see it as a positive, where we have a central location where both skills and knowledge can be improved while also trying to appeal to common sense.

The tools are available (even without tunnel), and we still have people doing stuff otherwise. You can't fix 'less smart'
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A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
To get back to the main subject the Onesie I saw it once last weekend and I think it's a very good tool.
Real performances will be there with good tracking pilots for sure. Wingsuiters think they are good but usually they are not so much Tongue.

What I like is that it's a new on the market and I think it's a good one and not a copy of an other one.

It's challenging for me and all the other manufacturers.

After it's just a matter of taste.
I don't really like boosters for running, I don't feel safe (I don't say it's not safe !).
You have to spread your legs a lot in the Onesie.
The PF way to get into suits is still annoying when you stand on a dirty place with dirty shoes.
Looks more like a cut wingsuit than like a not 2 piece tracksuit.
As I said, just a natter of taste because for performances I'm sure it's very ok.

PS: I still prefer mine but I'm not impartial Wink and I will raise my prices soon I guess to stick a bit more to this one.
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Re: [AntoineLaporte] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
AntoineLaporte wrote:
To get back to the main subject the Onesie I saw it once last weekend and I think it's a very good tool.

A manufacturer giving a balanced review of another manufacturer's product?!?! This is an outrage!

(Thanks for the review)
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Re: [MrAW] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
Shouldn't it be always like this ?
Money is not the goal, fun is !
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Re: [AntoineLaporte] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
AntoineLaporte wrote:
Shouldn't it be always like this ?
Money is not the goal, fun is !

Heresy!

WinkSmile
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Re: [BASE1817] A little word about the Phoenix-Fly Onesie TS
I've put about 30 jumps on it so far, making the road from High Ultimate is a common occurence, even when parts of the jump are sub-optimal. Made it over the farmhouse from High Nose this weekend too, and still at a safe altitude when deploying.

Still not at 100% for sure, when I'm trying to max it out I do sometimes get sliding, which can quite easily be corrected. Still have a lot of work in terms of consistency to do.

There's a few Sausages and Cruise+ around, with way more experienced pilots flying them than I am. Some are thinking about switching already.

Oh, and as for the Cruise+, I hear they dont make them anymore?