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42 is the answer.

So it's already the worst year on record, but how bad will it really get? We're at 31 at the writing of this post, which already increases the previous high of 27. The last 5 years people have died in sept, October, and nov every year. What will the final tally be? Tie breaker will be how many fatalities in December?

Winner gets a take-away static line kit and a stash bag.*

32

none in december



*Both winner and myself must be alive to eligible to claim prize. All entry's must be received prior to sept 15.

31

Because noone else will guess it!

Another useless post with everybody talking about the bf like if they can't be in the count... It only happen to others... Be safe guys

+1. Useless post.

More useless than the 50 posts saying slow down and try to learn after every fatality, which no one then listens to? More useless than the "stay safe out there" post I've done several time? There will be more fatalities this year, and it's better to acknowledge that. There are probably 50-100 people out hiking in Europe today going to proximity fly saying "it can't happen to me". I only saw two useless posts this thread, and they're both quoted above. If you don't want to participate in the contest, then don't.

bit late for that amendment champ

More useless than the 50 posts saying slow down and try to learn after every fatality, which no one then listens to? More useless than the "stay safe out there" post I've done several time? There will be more fatalities this year, and it's better to acknowledge that. There are probably 50-100 people out hiking in Europe today going to proximity fly saying "it can't happen to me". I only saw two useless posts this thread, and they're both quoted above. If you don't want to participate in the contest, then don't.

Earlier this year I expected at least twenty people to die in August and September. Looks like I was optimistic.

The fact that that level of carnage is now considered normal just shows how idiotic this has become. I hate to break it to all of the guys trying to make a name for themselves- the pinnacle of this sport was hit five years ago. Everyone else has just been playing follow the leader but with progressively less preparation. There is nowhere else to go but in.

I watched a video last week of a guy flying his Phantom through the crack... He had been flying wingsuits in BASE for two weeks. I was also the only one that happened to say I had just watched a near fatality. Post after post, included experienced jumpers, congratulated him on the accomplishment. There is almost nothing to do but laugh- over and over again people keep acting surprised when their game of Russian roulette doesn't turn out well.

There is a collective denial of what is going on. The overwhelming number of accidents are being driven by ego and sheer stupidity. The most common limiting factor in progression and growth is not an individual's potential but rather his ego.

If you don't think that ego is the driving factor in this, then I have some great oceanfront property here in AZ to sell you.

"it can't happen to me."- that should be a T-shirt that comes with every new big suit.

Earlier this year I expected at least twenty people to die in August and September. Looks like I was optimistic.

The fact that that level of carnage is now considered normal just shows how idiotic this has become. I hate to break it to all of the guys trying to make a name for themselves- the pinnacle of this sport was hit five years ago. Everyone else has just been playing follow the leader but with progressively less preparation. There is nowhere else to go but in.

I watched a video last week of a guy flying his Phantom through the crack... He had been flying wingsuits in BASE for two weeks. I was also the only one that happened to say I had just watched a near fatality. Post after post, included experienced jumpers, congratulated him on the accomplishment. There is almost nothing to do but laugh- over and over again people keep acting surprised when their game of Russian roulette doesn't turn out well.

There is a collective denial of what is going on. The overwhelming number of accidents are being driven by ego and sheer stupidity. The most common limiting factor in progression and growth is not an individual's potential but rather his ego.

If you don't think that ego is the driving factor in this, then I have some great oceanfront property here in AZ to sell you.

"it can't happen to me."- that should be a T-shirt that comes with every new big suit.

Earlier this year I expected at least twenty people to die in August and September. Looks like I was optimistic.

The fact that that level of carnage is now considered normal just shows how idiotic this has become. I hate to break it to all of the guys trying to make a name for themselves- the pinnacle of this sport was hit five years ago. Everyone else has just been playing follow the leader but with progressively less preparation. There is nowhere else to go but in.

I watched a video last week of a guy flying his Phantom through the crack... He had been flying wingsuits in BASE for two weeks. I was also the only one that happened to say I had just watched a near fatality. Post after post, included experienced jumpers, congratulated him on the accomplishment. There is almost nothing to do but laugh- over and over again people keep acting surprised when their game of Russian roulette doesn't turn out well.

There is a collective denial of what is going on. The overwhelming number of accidents are being driven by ego and sheer stupidity. The most common limiting factor in progression and growth is not an individual's potential but rather his ego.

If you don't think that ego is the driving factor in this, then I have some great oceanfront property here in AZ to sell you.

"it can't happen to me."- that should be a T-shirt that comes with every new big suit.

I watched a video last week of a guy flying his Phantom through the crack... He had been flying wingsuits in BASE for two weeks

40 with none in december

Quoting for emphasis. Also where can I get that shirt?

Very appropriate post....

It's been a bit of a tradition at some skydiving DZ's,....,betting on when the newbie, who won't listen to the advice of anyone, is going to femur or worse.

When the inevitable is obvious to everyone except the next "statistic " the only sane approach is black humor.

Regards, B.

Do we think that Mr. Handheld-slider up-crazy legs-selfie stick will be on there?

https://www.facebook.com/...c_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE

Do we think that Mr. Handheld-slider up-crazy legs-selfie stick will be on there?

https://www.facebook.com/...c_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE

*filthy aussies not eligible to win

all those newbs who are having successful Wingsuit starts off big walls in Euroland this summer are going to be raging off the short starts in Moab this fall and winter,... December in Moab could make August in Europe look peaceful

So who won?

39 none in Dec

37, 0 in Dec

fanya had 37 with 0 in December

zmorlock had 37 and did not have a December number

submitted by a humble lurking skydiver

Fatality statistics should go down in 2017, 'cos everyone died in 2016, and there's no one left!!!

Rough year. 4 I called friends, 2 more I knew loosely.

And (especially younger) jumpers think it's all a fucking joke.

ok, well, what else can we do instead, to get people to take the issue of increasing fatalities seriously?

real question.

ok, well, what else can we do instead, to get people to take the issue of increasing fatalities seriously?

real question.

I think this video is relevant -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hER0Qp6QJNU

Form meaningful relationships with other jumpers

Learn how to give constructive feedback well (identify that you want what's best for the person, you want to see them achieve their goals and be happy; yet when they do action X, it can have consequence Y, and you'd be really happy if they did Z going forward).

Follow that constructive feedback up with genuine actions that reflect that you take interest in said jumper and include them in some fulfilling base missions away from the typical hustle and bustle.

Be sure to give specific positive feedback when you see your new friends take smart approaches to progression

People only take constructive feedback when they trust the person who is giving it to them. Trust does not come easy. It comes from investing in relationships, genuinely caring about other people, and doing actions that convey this.

I think this video is relevant -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hER0Qp6QJNU

Form meaningful relationships with other jumpers

Nah, rather shit-talk about your own mishaps or failures, which to be honest, everyone has. Yup, we're human, but the youngin's are all rockstars!

Learn how to give constructive feedback well (identify that you want what's best for the person, you want to see them achieve their goals and be happy; yet when they do action X, it can have consequence Y, and you'd be really happy if they did Z going forward).

Nah, not when you care, maybe give tips or pointers, make an effort, take or post videos or pictures, and still you get ridiculed or not taken seriously.

Follow that constructive feedback up with genuine actions that reflect that you take interest in said jumper and include them in some fulfilling base missions away from the typical hustle and bustle.

Nah, they'd rather do a gainer on their 3rd jump from a cliff, after doing their 2nd and overall 16th jump from a rock, after you've already said "Maybe wanna go slick, you know, just to get back into the swing of things?". That is after you helped them pack their PC's, telling them "There's people that would use the opportunity to yank your packjob and throw it into the bushes".

Be sure to give specific positive feedback when you see your new friends take smart approaches to progression

Honestly, I couldnt care less anymore at this point, because "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on ME!". Why the FUCK should one care anymore?

People only take constructive feedback when they trust the person who is giving it to them. Trust does not come easy. It comes from investing in relationships, genuinely caring about other people, and doing actions that convey this.

Yes, and that is exactly why I only jump with my friends, or alone by myself. If someone asks for help, appreciates it and heads what I have to give, sure, vhy not. But your average "muppet". NAH, not anymore. I'm not letting my day be ruined by some twat. Even the guys that only come out only when THEY want. Fuck that. Seriously. Not my cup of tea.

So stupid. You're playing a tasteless game of bounce bingo while chastising younger jumpers for thinking its a joke. Irony,hypocrisy, and idiocy defined, all in one short post.

Rough year. 4 I called friends, 2 more I knew loosely.

And (especially younger) jumpers think it's all a fucking joke.