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Second hand info: Jumper is broadcasting his WS BASE live on Facebook, and impacts ground.

Since it have been broadcasted live, is there possible to give some more info? Location, etc?

http://www.blick.ch/...ebook-id5423950.html

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Going in has gone mainstream. CH bans BASE jumping in 3-2-1...

We should all be reporting this video to Facebook so it gets removed immediately.

The phone was in the pocket of his wingsuit during the jump, only audio of the incident...

http://www.polizei-schweiz.ch/ger_details_66832/Kandersteg_BE_-_28-jaehriger_Basejumper_toedlich_verunfallt.html

A lot of friends already did, you get a notification that it does not violate their terms...

Probably depends on what you report it as, I didn't get a notification.

Attention whores....

To be honest, he was jumping alone and the live stream meant that help and rescue was informed within minutes... Unfortunately there was nothing anyone could do for him anymore

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WTF. . just when I think I have read it all here .
Not to be to much of an asshole to you Wingsuit jumpers, BUT Is this what it has All progressed to ? . burning-in Live on your Facebook page .
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I'm currently reaching out to many friends that work at Facebook to take the video down.

There's been a lot of talk in the other thread in the General forum but I think it is more appropriate to post this here. A lot of people are clamoring for Facebook to take it down. I think it should stay up.

I'm very sorry that this person died, but it was his choice to stream live video of his jump. If he wanted what he was doing to remain private, then he should have left his multiple GoPros at home and not streamed his jump live for the world to see. Multiple GoPros and Facebook Live indicates to me that this person craved attention from his base jumping pursuits and that is a serious problem today.

Some of you won't acknowledge this is a problem and some of you will be pissed at me for saying it, but I think it is a valid discussion point and it absolutely has contributed to the really high fatality rate we've been experiencing over the last few years. Just before New Years, I told my crew there would be 35-40 BASE fatalities this year due to the "look at me" factor and how it breeds others to rush in the sport without the proper skills or mindset for what they are trying to do.

Someone will say "but the number of participants have gone up". I say it doesn't matter. The problem we have today is a lack of respect for just how dangerous this sport really is and that lack of respect is directly attributed to the look how cool I am attitude that is displayed every day at exit points around the world. We are encouraging others to go too fast and as far as I'm concerned, it is out of control.

By keeping this video available to all, it might make people realize just how terrifying it is when things go wrong. And then, maybe then, people might start giving real thought as to what it is they are doing.

This video has great potential to reduce future fatalities, far more than any written accident report. This hard core reality is the best training tool out there and it should remain up.

To his friends and family, I'm very sorry for your loss. Now let's make sure his passing influences others to slow down and make good decisions.

kinda ironic how it says, "was live"

what is that wind chime sound at the end?

Getting it taken down will do nothing because Vid. has already been copied 1000 times to be regurgitated throughout libraries files .
. Your not totally wrong in what your saying for keeping Vid. up . Sometimes cold slap of reality like this Facebook bullshit is only way to actually make an impression for advancement . Or delete and forget about it, and wonder just How much lower in the bucket can it go from this ?
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not wind chimes . ( to me ), sounds like Cow Bells from livestock on hillside pastures running away from the jumpers impact .

Well I can't say I'm surprised, it was only matter of time before we got to see someone go in live on FB.

Yep! Welcome to BASE 2016....

Cow bells. Probably coming over to find out if his wingsuit was edible.

This actually gives us some insight to where he impacted if this was in kandersteg.
Those cows are gonna have sour milk, for a week or two.

 

He did not have a left-hand BOC. Try filming yourself with the front camera on your phone. The image is reversed.

~25 seconds of flight
jumper's suit was fairly new: http://i.imgur.com/4SnCgfK.png

The treelanding was not the jumper in question.

edited.

seriously? it's not about him anymore. why should his family be subjected to future posts, many by trolls whose goal is to make them feel even worse than they already do. they don't need to see that crap and if taking the video down from fb mitigates their exposure, fb just needs to fucking do it.

Shit has officially gotten very crazy. I am confused about one thing... The subject's FB says "remembering sat wex" (or something like that). I thought the "remembering" on a FB screen name was for those that had passed. It seems like if someone had access to his page to change that status would also have the power to remove the video. Did this guy go in on purpose, is it coincidence or am I reading too much into it. Nonetheless, I sure wish my friends (and people in general) would quit fucking cratering. It's really not that impressive.

The link is still live for me.

Pretty full on. The guy literally recorded and broadcast his own death and now around 12 hours later Facebook (who now owns his footage, as they do everything anyone posts on there) is keeping the footage up with a 'graphic content' warning.

Perhaps this is something to remember for the next person that wants to live-stream their jump.

It would probably be different if it was video vs audio in a pocket.

is kandersteg a jump for someone in his second ws base season and on a new suit?

I don't know who you are but

+1

Everyone here is forgetting something important. What do the mainstream media channels do? They EAT shit like that up, they love to show carnage, hatred, racism, madness, etc.
Facebook has become nothing more than the seventh head of the serpent-government-media beast. I remember a time when facebook was for me and my friends to post stupid ass pictures, talk shit, and be senseless. Now its fucking fox news online.

That's kind of a loaded question I've seen friends in one base season with many prior BASE jumps lots of skydives go out on their first season do lots of jumps on more forgiving objects then go out and fly the crack and barn line safely.
I've seen many people in their 5th season wing suiting that should not be so it depends.
If he had lots of jumps and ws base in other suits and has a new suit to base that he skydives a lot it can be done safely.

good point, but still I think you shouldn't be doing this kind of stuff in your second season: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SEQmrf3X4s

I'm not defending any of his decision making that in the end led to the worst, just wanted to throw in that people living in/close to lauterbrunnen don't know 'seasons'. We jump all year round. So did the deceased. He lived within ~2 hours driving distance to lauterbrunnen and was there regularly all year round.

And the concerns about taking down the video did not necessarily come up because of family but because of it ending up on live leak, in the news etc.

Wingsuiting is not a counting-out rhyme, hundreds of jumps will not make you groundproof.
Stop numbering to try to reassure yourself, because if the amount of jumps you have is the decisive factor in whether you fly something you are disrespectful to the environment you're moving in.
Skills are the basis, but should be built in a safe setting, letting the ground come close to you is a inner process that builds on those skills.
I think sometimes it would be better for the skills to spend the time for 20 jumps on some easy access jump on doing a 6 day mission with a hike down.

This is something I have been saying for a very long time. All fatality videos should be made public and all people thinking of getting into the sport should be forced to watch them. Only showing rad base videos edited to music where nothing ever goes wrong is quite literally irresponsible. People need to see the harsh realities of what happens when things go wrong and understand the impact it has on the people left behind. If these videos even save one life and keep a persons loved ones from having to go through the pain then it's worth it. The families of the deceased are already in pain and nothing is going to change that. The possibility of these videos having a real impact on calming a few people down out weighs everything else.

A lot of people don't like me because I have always talked about and shown the dark side of the sport. But I have always felt sugar coating an activity that kills people is wrong. I have been called negative but after watching Dwaine get severed in half and getting covered in his blood I felt being negative was the right way to go. If what I say keeps a person from jumping then they did not belong in the sport and maybe that persons life was saved. If what I say doesn't deter them then at least I was honest and if they go in I can sleep at night knowing I did what I could do. I say be honest and show the reality to all. Base is not all sunshine and rainbows, everything it gives it takes away in equal measure...

The sport has always been dangerous and it will always be dangerous. Anyone that thinks differently is living in a delusion...

Sure Jeb, apart from the one fatality where you never wanted to discuss publicly what killed the jumper, or you still don't understand it.

...should be forced to watch...

...even save one life...

Watch or Die!

Fricken Commie-BASE over here.


You do not need to watch a bunch of carnage to respect the sport and what you are doing; reading, and re-reading, the BFL is sufficient.


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One can hear in the flight, a loss of speed close to a stall if not a stall in my opinion, well before the impact sound.
take care,
space

No. People don't like you because you use your black death/woe is me/I don't care if I die speech as a marketing pitch to any media that will give you the time of day.

here is how i works http://time.com/3706807/facebook-death-legacy/

was that Jeb Corliss up there, or was it Ceb Jorliss???
I need more Ceb in my life

Thanks for providing that information. I certainly hope it can be removed from his FB page. I have been hearing his scream and last gasps at life since I saw (heard) the video. Death in this sport and in general is very, very familiar to me, so it happening is not what bothers me. Years ago I had to start a fucking spreadsheet, yes a spreadsheet of my good friends who have died either skydiving, base, proxy flying, etc. not because I am morbid, but because there were so, so ma y that I was starting to forget and I didn't want to do that. While I do think there is some value in seeing the consequences of challenging an unforgiving activity, so that maybe people better understand, I think in this case wouldn't it be better to memorialize this persons life by not illustrating his death as a memorial (despite his deciding to live stream it)? Alexander Polli posted a few years ago (and fitting for his early demise), "your life and how you live it is more important than your death or how you died". The video is already out there for people to "learn" from so I hope it just gets removed from this guys account, so it isn't the defining point of his life on social media, that is all. I would absolutely hope that everyone understands the risks and consequences of what they are doing before they engage in it, but sadly, especially as of late, it appears people are stepping out of the reality zone of what they are capable of. People say "there are more jumps so there are going to be more fatalities" but honestly this last year, especially, has gotten out of control. We are all going to die sometime, somehow and there is nothing wrong with dying doing what you love...BUT... Wouldn't it be better to not accelerate the process and continue living to do what you love to do?

And on a final note (because this forum was "created" so that the community could honor others by learning from their mistakes, but often turns into a bash fest about how stupid the 'insert deceased name here' was- A good majority of these fatalities are human error, based on poor decisions, but we are all human and infallible, so let's learn from the loss and embrace and support what should be th brotherhood of the sport instead) it does very much sound like from the video that there was a stall before the impact. Based on the sound of this stall, the following scream acknowledging it was going to be devastating and the amount of revolutions before coming to rest in the midst of What sounds like grazing cattle, what can be learned from this? Probably much the same that could have been learned from a good number of recent fatalities. Give yourself some outs, some margin for error that allows you to hopefully recover without hugely dire consequences. It is ok to take it easy, develop your skills, leave an envelope for yourself so that you can keep on enjoying what you love to do.

I'm sure a lot of people won't agree with what I have said and that is ok. I don't post here all that often (and what is my opinion anyway) because more times than not when there is an incident, people just get downright shitty (seems to be the normal coping mechanism). I can handle what is in these forums or I wouldn't be here, but I think we can do better as a community. Let's embrace each other in our community, support one another, heed mentors advice, realistically evaluate our skills and limitations, know when it is ok to say no or not now, slow down a bit, listen to your buddy when he/she says maybe that isn't a good idea, and simply put ourselves in a position where we can live to jump another day instead of dying doing what we love to do. That is ok too!

'' but honestly this last year, especially, has gotten out of control.''

Why ? Because you said so? When you think BASE society had control over this?
Make one small check..
Imagine those 10 fatalities to be spread in 3-4 months... also
replace known names of the jumpers with some not known...
How much would you care?
It is surprising how big drama is going on over the live video.
Drama is only because it is the first one ever in our ''sport'' , but for sure not last.
Again, this case is just confirmation that rushing in to WS flying without solid basic knowledge has its fast end. The guy had barely over 100 BASE jumps, started teaching others etc. His skydive experience is not known to me but for sure was not reach.
Sound on the video is indicating sudden attempt of slowing down the vertical / overall speed , ending with impact. Terrain flying so to have stall peaks in the flights ??? Wow! Stall peak must be one and only - before pull.
As far as watching or not what Jeb suggesting ...
One thing is to watch another is to understand.
Kids watch shooting on the movies but don't get it that once you shoot you may kill too.. Guns and canopies are not for every one.

I think you may have taken what I said out of context. Too many people dying in one day, one week, one month is not good- not just because I said so (see the comment about my opinion being just that) Don't misunderstand when I say out of control, that I mean there such be more regulations. It is a euphemism, that is all. The fb post is sad because his fucking mother was watching live. His choice to stream it for sure, but I find it sad that loved ones have that burned into their memory for all time. I didn't know this guy or some of the others and I still care. It's a fucking community I have virtually grown up with and I would love to see my friends keep on jumping and hope the same for the rest of the community I don't know. Which was really what my post was all about. Also,to understand what happened to the best that anyone can and to hopefully learn.

If that ends up being the case, then this:

http://topgunbase.ws/...part-1-why-fly-fast/

Particularly the bit about the exponential decrease in safety margin as you lose speed. I knew that extra speed meant an exponential increase in reserve and I knew that slowing down decreases your reserve, but for some reason I hadn't made the connection that the decrease was also exponential until I read this.

Is anyone using FlySight to monitor speed? Or has anyone thought about it?
You can choose the settings such that the acoustic feedback is total speed instead of glide ratio... That way one might be less likely to lose too much speed...?

How about using sound jdgement, being sensible in your choices and jumping within your own limits!? It's far too easy to rely on gadgets, just like skydivers not jumping without a cypres!

You may need to change your mindset, which ego doesnt like.

I am not a wingsuiter so I was just curious. It might be a good way of conditioning though to aim for speed rather than glide ratio for which FlySight is most commonly used, no?
I didn't mean one should rely on it. Surely the main problem currently is too many people rushing it and progressing to quickly. But with regards to the topgun blog post, why not use a training tool?

Yes. you can use it to monitor speed. Some people do it in the skydiving environment.

A Flysight should not be used to monitor speed during a proxy flight.
That idea is just stupid on so many levels.

1st. Sincere condolences to the family and friends left in his passing.

2. Blaming social media, you tube, ect... is as sound of an argument as blaming Marilyn Manson for the actions of the Columbine shootings. This jumper is fully responsible for this actions filming them or not. Making it a live broadcast or an intimate showing with his friends and family.

I feel people are getting caught up in the rawness of the video and missing the foundation of the fatality.

a. How many Base jumps and years of experience did the jumper have in the sport (sky and base)?

b. How many tracking jumps (sky and base)?
c. How many WS jumps (sky and base)?
d. How many WS jumps with the current suit (sky and base)?
e.How many WS jumps from this exit?
*and if he did have previous jumps from this exit, how was his flight? poor speed and GR?

My point is that people are showing up to LB with 80 fak'n jumps in a Freak and lucky to be alive because he's an asshole.
BITD jumpers did a foundation progression to develop the skill to jump the equipment. So their skill level was superior to the gear.
2016: The gear is now superior to jumpers skill level and people with minimal jumps and poor foundation are expecting the suit to save themselves instead of them saving their own self.

What's out of balance is the skill of current WS jumpers relative to the gear they jump. It's no one's fault but the jumper.... not social media, not youtube, not your mom not loving you enough.

The footage is raw and I've seen plenty a people die. More than I can count. But that was aggressive watching.
If it made all of us think he left something behind that is a positive.

Maybe it has been mentioned in this thread already, but... from the video it looks like his focus was a little too much on the camera. Could it be that he ended up with a little too much lost focus on the actual jump? No matter how experienced or unexperienced, most BASE jumps requires a lot of focus. If not total focus.

/Micke - BASE 268

Rose tinted glasses bro. Back in the day jumpers were the same mix of good guys and assholes, and prepared guys and idiots that we have now.

The reason it seems that all the longtime jumpers are well prepared, knowledgeable and followed sensible progressions is because they are the ones who are still here and still jumping. All the idiots faded away - killed, hurt, scared off or just lost interest.

Human nature hasn't changed. I guaran-fucking-tee you that 15 years ago there were dudes doing 5 skyjumps in a classic and rocking up to a cliff somewhere, and guys with 10 base jumps in a GTi buying a Skyflyer as soon as it came out.

The point I was trying to make in my last post was that on a much deeper level (think human behavioral sciences) YouTube, GoPros, Facebook Live, etc is what's causing the rash of deaths we are seeing today.

When I talk to just about anyone now-a-days that is not associated with jumping, the very first thing they ask in conversation is "do you BASE jump with a wingsuit?" And then they proceed to tell me all about the cool video they saw of someone flying close to cliff and they are wild-eyed telling me about it. And I mean nearly everyone.

Now let's shift to the people that actually decide to get into BASE. Undoubtedly, nearly every single one of them has been influenced by the crazy lines we see flown today. And make no mistake, they are heavily influenced by it. Enough so, they feel like it's totally ok to mount GoPros all over their body and fly a wingsuit in Lauterbrunnen with only 50-100 BASE jumps under their belt. And then many feel compelled to proxy fly another 50 jumps or so after that. I define proxy flying as flying close enough to terrain that a deployment may not save you...and plenty of people with 100-150 BASE jumps are proxy-flying claiming that its ok because they are 100 ft above the terrain so they think they are not "pushing it". I see this all the time.

Yea you're right that we are all big boys and girls and we make our own decisions, but a good number of newer jumpers today don't realize how deep of a deficit they're in because their perceptions have been skewed by all of the glory videos available today. And that's exactly why they also need to be exposed to the super hard-core reality of what really happens and that is why I said that this video should remain available for all to see. My bad if I gave the impression that it should stay on his Facebook page. I just meant that is should remain available on YouTube or some other random online platform.

A good number of you reading this are out there on the big European exit points too and if you've been jumping them for more than at least 5-7 years, you can't tell me that you haven't seen a change. I am blown away by the crazy shit I see now-a-days and I am not surprised at all that people are smearing their bodies across the mountainsides.

I stand by statement that on a deeper level, we are where we're at today because of the "look at me" videos and the "look at me" actions that people have today.

i think this fixation with his experience 'foundatin' is comical.

What was the experience 'foundation' of Alexander Polli?

Or Uli?

Or any of the high profile deaths during the last couple of years?

It is just another way to rationalize that "it will not happen to me because unlike that low-time low-experience IDIOT I have the experience foundation so I would never be that stupid or incompetent."

I do not recall the details but IIRC the 'trend' seems to be that the more experience you have the more likely you are to die, not the reverse, just like in high-performance canopy fatals, which I know more about that ws base.

Maybe someone should chart that out instead of fixating on data that is only marginal relevant. To see what I mean, answer that question list for Uli and Alexander and see how relevant it is to their deaths.

All this talk about speed/risk exponentiality is marginal relevant too; it may be true technically but proximity to the ground is the ultimate exponent, ja?

that's not the point. nobody is denying that the reaper can take anyone, anytime. the point is that polli and uli definitely had a much higher chance of survival jumping the same exit point and line in kandersteg. it's about experience, not infallibility. he shouldn't have jumped it, period. polli shouldn't have corkscrewed, uli shouldn't have done what he did. they're all dead, but they all died during different levels of performance. did you hear the stall?

I made a bunch of jumps at Kansersteg before I quit, not that it matters, but what line was he flying, does anyone know? Just trying to visualize where he got in trouble.

I imagine with 2 go pros filming, probably something will come out eventually anyway.

His relatives already did see it live, and it cannot be unseen. The only person with the power and right to remove it is the one who put it up. His choice of privacy settings was to broadcast it open and public, and it is to be respected.

Aside from that, i strongly share the opinion that anybody considering the sport must first see the carnage in full graphic details.

In fact, i think that contemplation and meditation on death should be a regular exercise for general public (and that originally involved rotten corpses).

the video is gone from his page now

Around 25 sec after exit to impact, is aproximately at the same place as 1 min in this video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=P6DKz6Afnds
Or at about 27 sec in this video: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R6M-ofb1hvI

If this was his line, taken into account his probably slow airspeed, he was unfortunately not even close to make it...

If anybody wants/needs a copy i have it saved. Via PM please.

how commonly known is it, by WS flyers, the difference between best glide speed and minimum sink-rate speed?

+1

However I don't think people watching more carnage videos is going to change that. I mean, I do think that watching carnage videos is necessary for BASE jumpers but would imagine most of the recently deceased had seen quite a few already and still went on to die.

I think a key problem is jumpers trying to emulate what they saw in a video without understanding how it was produced - how much training that other jumper went through, what the weather conditions were, or did they just get lucky?

GoPro/YouTube/Facebook isn't directly causing the problems but I think it's definitely contributing, as they are to the growth of the sport.

Depends on what you mean by best glide. If it's after generating speed for lift or sustained glide.
Best not to put yourself into that position.
Anytime you are slowing down you are going to sink more.

By definition they are for sustained flight

If you are using best glide speed by definition it can be adjusted by how much power you have going into it.

That is why people are dying don't have enough power or speed built up to get through a tight spot if they were going off of best glide without any power they don't have any business being in that spot which is what people are doing.

This is what rich is trying to get through to people with his blogs. If you are at max glide you have almost no lift and if you try to use to much lift you sink out and have no way to build up speed and lift without diving. If you don't have that altitude you die.

I am pro for posting it. Just because one doesnt see carnage in general doesnt mean it doesnt exist. The Jumper shared the vid publicly. it was his wish. To nix his last wish seems wrong to me. Take your sugar coating mentality away please. There are slightly hidden costs to do BASE. But the costs are quite high. Why would one refuse this knowledge to the newbies?
take care,
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No, it's not.

If you're planning on being anywhere near terrain you should be flying significantly faster than either.

I'm genuinely curious, since I don't know what it's like to wear one. In a "flat terrain emergency" so to speak, would a skilled wingsuit pilot have an intuitive or visceral sense, of when he reached either speed, and be able to tell the difference? Or is it difficult to tell?

Or is it not germane to the activity?

edit- spelling correction

I think letting people watch the carnage video will make people take a step back, if they're smart.

I hung up my rig after the big names were going in. If they died, how the hell was i going to stay alive? Seeing carnage videos opened up my eyes to realizing shit can really go bad. Hell if i saw carnage videos more often i would have quit earlier. Im glad i made it to 500 jumps alive. Im happy I'm out!

It was neither Fisistok nor classic Kandersteg exit
Maybe locals will give some details of the wall, but from the map it seems that he had to fly about 800 m having 600 m of altitude to clear the ledge / to fly avay from the valley.
Is the exit jumped often? Doesn't look like a hardcore line

If anyone out there needs that or any similar video in order to realize that base is dangerous, mistakes will lead to death / sever injury and that there is literally no margin for error... then I wonder how that person manages to survive on a daily basis.

Carnage does not prevent people from doing things. And do you seriously think this video can serve an educational purpose? You don't see less people texting and driving, because of similar videos or pictures of horrible accidents. You still whip out your phone, cause it wouldn't happen to you - it's just a text. Who do you think is going to step down now?

Videos of people dying serve a voyeuristic human instinct. Enjoy it if you really need to scratch that itch, because that is why you watch it. It's just like the people that stop at car accidents to take pictures - this isn't different.

We can all talk about what happened and how we view things, but who here is planning on changing his or her behavoir as a result of this?

I feel for the guy's family. They will most likely be haunted by this. I feel for him, because this is not the way you want to go. None of us do this, because we enjoy death or want to die - we do it for the love of the sport. We should therefore treat each other - if alive or dead - with more respect.

I frown upon those, who save, distribute and need to watch the video multiple times - there is nothing to learn from listening to someone take his last breath. This is not a video of an error that can be prevented by watching it. What do you learn from listening to a man dying? I don't know, but keep on telling yourselves that it serves a real purpose.


May you rest in peace.

You might learn a great deal. However, you are right saying that it has little to do with technical aspect of BASE. It goes much deeper than that.

This wouldn't be a good start, but at least some reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maranasati

Pretty much anything you do in life is ultimately affected by your fear of death. Hands-on experience with death might help to grow over it.

bsbd! Yuri

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GCd0OjjCz88

You really think that's funny, asshole!?

Go choke on a dick!

the whole situation is kinda funny if you were to ask.

 
This guy was one of the most ruthless idiots of the last years. Any critic towards his behavior was either ignored or deleted from his FB comments. His normal answer to less offensive contradiction was an arrogant laughter. And on top of his ridiculous behavior he constantly led his youngster entourage into his suicidal missions too.
Idiots train idiots- what do we get?...well...IDIOTs!
And of course all of this bullshit is liked, supported and encouraged by skydivers and whuffos.

I've lost any kind of empathy for these guys.
They're regularly kicking us (The majority of Basejumpers) in the face and we are just smiling back.

And no this last Link will not help anybody or with the current situation!
But it really fits towards Armins behavior!

Correction, SUPER idiots are the product of such. There's a sort of exponential nature to these sort of things.

What defines an idiot?
Take care,
space

I'm with you, i can only imagine how annoying this topic for skydive& WS instructors is right now. But the line you're refer to was directed to the friends of the deceased jumper. The guy instructed others& took them to jumps way out of their skillset. And this was liked and supported by skydivers & co....I personally think they just don't know better and try to be good buddies. But this behavior is a further encouragment for a attention seeking youngster.

Brutal!
Those eerie fucking cowbells have been haunting me. Thanks for shaking me out of that shit, Zack.
~J

A name comes to mind. Andrey Karr. He was a wild monster tracker. People seem to think his life was going to be short. Well, smacking trees in his trackflight was done lets say. he opened new lines and was and still is a tracking mofo. I hope that he doesn´t wing it now. But he would seem to be the guy to talk to about transitioning to a survivable line of life and flight versus risk.
Google Andrey Karr. Maybe we can get a reply from him on here.
take care,
space

Karr just got a wingsuit (again). He's an awesome dude but probably not the one to talk to about risk

Karr hehhe risk heheheeh

The video that should be removed from the internet is not the live footage, it's the Dreamlines IV. (and all the others that followed)

People want to be famous. People want a Red Bull helmet. People want to quit their shitty day job. People wanna get pussy.

I was one of them, now I don't own a BASE rig anymore. (I m still getting pussy tho...)

One thing I've noticed since I started jumping was that I get a lot more attention from dudes than I do from the ladies.

That is because of the vibe you put out

Same here, I've been jumping for 12 years and only dudes think it's cool. Women generally feel pitty for my poor wife and think I'm an asshole for doing what I do

I´m sure you are getting a lot of attention from the dudes with your awesome BASE footage : https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/...01be&oe=5849E9A3 :D

I honestly think we look pretty in this picture...

Edit to add, especially Simon look super hot and kind of inocent...

 
i agree...will the strange family ever show johnny's video? rip.