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Aerodyne release Pilot7 skydive canopy as stabe version of 9 cell Pilot for WS jumps.
Atair release 9 cell base canopy for WS jumps.

Stop the World – I want to get off

... this sounds great but doesn't seems to be a new aspect comparing to 7cells. i love atair's quality and work - i just am courious what is the benefit.

so what is the real advantage of it?? is it the opening or flying performance? can you get further with it but not sink it in like a 7C?

true,
Let stop research and get back to Fox or Mojo. Maybe 5 cell canopies, or Pegasus, or Turbo........
Same story was about using the light material for BASE canopies or Spectre lines 10 years ago, when I started using it. Imagine , that is now days standard!
Why 9 cell?! How to get more flare capacity and lighter canopy with sinking rate of let say Troll?! Answer please?! 7 cell canopy has so much distortion on the profile that all further research is more less gimmicks. what is the next step - more stable profile - right. 70% of jumps are made in open fields, nice grass landings. Same procentage of jumpers fly BASE canopies like they fly their skydiving canopies - horrible !! With no knowledge of half brake approach , flat turns, etc... Most of them think they know how to fly and control but reality shows different story.
All those facts showing that regardless of the type of the canopy most of the users will fly it just as they fly skydiviving canopy - full left toggle, full right toggle , both toggles down - flare , hoping for nice FLARE :)
Number of cells define just number of cells. That number does not tell you what is the aspect ratio or trim-right!
Openings on Niner is incredibly constant! Why , well, Atair will keep that part in his own folder.

you missunderstood my meaning;
please don't stop developing as i wrote i love atair work and quality :)

you did write a lot of reason why we should keeping developing things and why that we should consider our flying styles - i can hook up with all this. but that was not my question.

i am courious what is the advantage. this doesn't means i am not open to new development, this means i am open to new development and want to now more of the technical backgrounds.

better opening, better flare , more responsive canopy , all that in smaller lighter package.

Or get back to Vampire 3, which actually flies fast

Hahaha, sometimes I find myself thinking about how cool it would be if Robert made a V3-SU. Basically taking the V3 and beefing it up with all the technology and evolution he has aquired since that suit came out, while still looking (for the most part) like the good old V3.

I would LOVE to see that.

I probably wouldn't buy one but I'D WANT TO.

my niner 26 at my china. pic attached.
enjoy.

Is the Niner purely only slider up canopy or have you guys tested it also SD? All the pics I´ve seen are non vented, is the Niner available also with MDV?

I want nine vents! I'd be the king of vents!

What is the aspect ratio of the niner?

I don't really see a reason why you couldn't build a base specific 9 cell. People have been base jumping with nine cells forever, admittedly with various levels of success depending on the nature of the canopy. It seems like the classic concept of a base canopy dates back to our rock hopping days out south west. And for that you did want a certain type of canopy. But we're really growing way beyond that into totally unrelated areas. The majority of the jumps made to day with wing suits and tracking suits bare almost no resemblance to my memories of Moab. So why should the gear?

So I'm setting here thinking about this. What would you really gain? If the aspect was wider, better glide? I mean the aspect ratio of all sky diving canopies is abysmal. Any improvement would pay dividends in reducing induced drag. I think you could stretch the seven cells more. I used to jump a Maverick and it was one of the best seven cells I've ever flown. At least of that era. It was a relative wide canopy. I think they once told be that it's AR was 2.26 Keep in mind that a Saber is some thing like 2.5 So unless you're going to stretch the AR beyond that I don't see that much advantage to a nine cell. I'm not sure I buy the distortion argument. Or let me clarify, I think their are better ways to deal with that then simply increasing cell count.

I'm not opposed to this idea. Their have been times that I've recommended that people think about jumping a suitable flat trimmed nine cell for the glide that it has over some of the seven cells they were considering. I wonder how many of the jumps being made today would benefit from that.

Lee

I have a 190 Excalibur I've been threatening to put Dacron line on it and take it to the bridge . Proably not a great idea....... But tempting

Can you explaing the 'lighter package' part? I would expect it to be bulkier due to added ribs

Creating a canopy that in terms of size is similar to a normal 7 cell, but with the additional ribs, allows for a much thinner canopy. Resulting in lower drag, as well as reduced volume due to lower/smaller inner ribs.

A well executed TARD should do it.

It's less of a bad idea than a 27 cell Xaos 78.