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Advice on head gear
When I go skydiving I am currently using a Cookie G3, but sure this won´t be the right helmet to begin in BASE, right?

I am also a ocasional speedflyer and paraglider. Do you think I can find an "all purpose" helmet for these activities besides skydiving?

I would really appreciate some help/own experience with helmets in BASE
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Re: [Brutus] Advice on head gear
If u own a cookie g3 just keep skydiving with the rest of the fags...the full face g3 indicates this
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Re: [Brutus] Advice on head gear
I have a lot more experience speedflying than base. But for both I have always worn a full face that is qualified for entry requirements for the downhill MTB events. They have to be up to good a good standard to be allowed in those events. I use a Bell Drop, because it was very cheap, and provides good certified protection and gives the best open field of view of the full faces i tried..
It did save my face speedflying once when i took a long tumble.
It is also stronger than a lot of the slightly lighter carbon fibre alternatives in tests. Not to mention you can pick up end of year models for nothing.

I don't think everyone needs to wear a helmet, to each their own, but i want to be wearing a good one when i fuck up.

I also wear full body armour when speedflying or base, but in the few big wall bases i have done i did not wear an armoured jacket as I found it fucked up my tracking a bit.

Disclaimer - I am a beginner in base.
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Re: [Brutus] Advice on head gear
Get a real helmet that has impact/crash certification (ce/en, snell, astm and so on). Bike and ski helmets are your best options :)
Skydiving helmets are nothing more than fancy camera mounts and while they might make you look cool and your freefall more comfy, they offer no impact protection what so ever. They are nothing more than over priced shells with a liner...

Some good info on impact certification: http://www.xsportsprotective.com/pages/helmet-certification-guide
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Re: [Skez] Advice on head gear
Skez wrote:
If u own a cookie g3 just keep skydiving with the rest of the fags...the full face g3 indicates this

What does this indicate? That made no sense.

What do you do with all the time you save by typing "u" instead of you?
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Re: [Skez] Advice on head gear
Skez wrote:
If u own a cookie g3 just keep skydiving with the rest of the fags...the full face g3 indicates this

I have a g3
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Re: [Brutus] Advice on head gear
I use a Fox MTB helmet and love it...its super light and comfortable and offers great protection. Most of the guys I jump with just wear a cheap protec helmet but personally I'll spend the extra to protect my melon
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Re: [Skez] Advice on head gear
Skez wrote:
If u own a cookie g3 just keep skydiving with the rest of the fags...the full face g3 indicates this

Sad to read that. Judging a book by its cover is a typical behaviour of ignorant and bigheaded people.

I supposed BASE jumping, travelling and meeting very different people in BASE would make people widen their minds. Not your case
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Re: [Brutus] Advice on head gear
I use a POC. They are a bit pricey for the higher end but they have a good selection to chose from and the lower priced ones still offer great protection at a cheaper price.
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Re: [Brutus] Advice on head gear
Check this one http://www.icaro2000.com/Products/Helmets/Cut3/Cut3.htm

It was designed for paragliding but it is an excellent option for BASE too. It is lightweight and unlike the G3 it provides real protection.
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TO: hookitt Re: Idiots
What do you do with all the time you save by typing "u" instead of you?

They are Probably just waiting around to get smacked, Wink
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Re: [GreenMachine] TO: hookitt Re: Idiots
y u b so crtcl
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Re: [hookitt] Advice on head gear
hookitt wrote:
Skez wrote:
If u own a cookie g3 just keep skydiving with the rest of the fags...the full face g3 indicates this

What does this indicate? That made no sense.

What do you do with all the time you save by typing "u" instead of you?

I was just being a tool lol....not to be taken seriously obviously...but cookie g3s are still gay as fuck regardless
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Re: [Brutus] Advice on head gear
he's lonely and just looking for attention.....his boyfriend probably dumped him for a skydiver who's wearing a g3
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Re: [Brutus] Advice on head gear
Any cookie helmet is strictly there for a camera attachment it will not save your head on anything...

As heat has suggested grab your self something that WILL protect your head...

If your doing a lot of slider down stuff especially or if you are starting base with low skydive numbers then your canopy skills will be shithouse

Look after your head you only get one...

Enjoy the ride .. Hope you make it till the end Tongue
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Re: [Brutus] Advice on head gear
I wear a Triple Eight, impact rated, very good viability. The only problem is the visor doesn't lock in and on terminal jumps it flicks up on opening. I run a bit of velcro to fix that
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Re: [Dadsy] Advice on head gear
I used to jump with a skater-helmet, but now I take my old Oxygn from SkySystems without the lens.

For me, it fits more tight around my head and I hope that a fullface made with carbonfiber will save me more if needed.
Also easy to close/open with one hand (sky-latch).
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Re: [Hajo] Advice on head gear
The Oxygn isn't impact rated so cant see it helping much
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Re: [yil7] Advice on head gear
yil7 wrote:
he's lonely and just looking for attention.....his boyfriend probably dumped him for a skydiver who's wearing a g3

Nope long story short is if you use a g3 for the purpose of head protection your stupid ...they are shit and yeh a camera holder thats about it...... anything like a skateboard helmet or something actually approved for impact is going to be better...thats what i use and there about $30....not 2million$ like the g3
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Re: [Brutus] Advice on head gear
$30 Protec, skuff the finish with sandpaper,
then spray a light coat of flat black on it.
Benefits: light, cheap, stealth, and rated.

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Re: [Brutus] Advice on head gear
Sweet Helmets

The Rooster Discera RS?

lightweight, carbon fiber, MIPS, yada yada yada......


They're sweet
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Re: [GreenMachine] Advice on head gear
GreenMachine wrote:
$30 Protec, skuff the finish with sandpaper,
then spray a light coat of flat black on it.
Benefits: light, cheap, stealth, and rated.

I am currently using a snowboard helmet (open face) for paragliding and speedflying, but was thinking that maybe a full face helmet should offer more protection.

I´ve seen quite cheap ones, but was concerned about losing peripheral vision. Any of you using a full face can talk about this?

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/...p-2014/rp-prod113734
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Re: [Brutus] Advice on head gear
I have the Comp 661. Peripheral view is excellent. Only direction it limits your view is directly downwards (seeing your handles on a skydive, for example), but for BASE or speedflying it's great.
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Re: [Brutus] Advice on head gear
+1 for Fox full face mtb helmet. Good protection, comfy, lightish, excellent field of vision, great price... skydive helmets aren't gay... they are lame a.f! so expensive and no protection... but welcome to the cool jumpers club if you got one.
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Re: [JT8D] Advice on head gear
i will stop shitstirring the full facers out there ok...but yep seriously the expensive skydive helmets arent even suitable for someone falling off a skateboard at a slow speed.....i was stupid once and bought a tonfly skydive helmet...still have it.. but for speedflying or base i use a cheap skateboard style helmet....im not biased just realsitic skydiving helmets obviously have no safety standards to pass etc (im guessing) and they just make anything...which is usually just a thin plastic shell with no impact foam or any cushioning effect for your brain....if they where tested for any standards like even required for legal bicycle use they would fail
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Re: [Dadsy] Advice on head gear
Dadsy wrote:
The Oxygn isn't impact rated so cant see it helping much

Your referring to something like that:
http://crash.org.au/crash-protection.html
or the ECE-22 regulations?

hmm, okay.
So you go with rated helmets, that´s fine.
I hope that my un-rated is good enough for what I expect.
The "can´t see it helping much" is not a question of beeing rated or not (for me). Wink
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Re: [Hajo] Advice on head gear
Well if you expect it to save your life then you may be mistaken, it is nothing more than a camera mount. Having a strike and getting carbon fibre embed into your face isn't something I would be interested in, but each to their own.
Hopefully we will never have to worry about it Smile
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Re: [Dadsy] Advice on head gear
do what i do and use your body as helmet...its a technique if done correctly u will break arms and legs and get fucked up pretty bad the bones snapping and body bouncing off the deck etc will cushion the effects on your brain...its much better then the other way around.....its legit.....but honestly get a decent helmet not a shitty g3 or skydive style(some may be good but none ive seen)......the impacts that can happen from these sports are violent as fuck and a skydive style helmet aka camera holder just doesnt suit worst case scenarios that can and will happen... hopefully not but most likely willPirate
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Re: [Brutus] Advice on head gear
I have seen people jumping with these:

http://www.pocsports.com/...118/sinuse-sl-swe-ed
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Re: [Skez] Advice on head gear
I found this upgrade to the g3...requires some diy but
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Re: [Skez] Advice on head gear
Skez wrote:
If found this upgrade to the g3...requires some diy but

I remember wearing a similar one and still woke up with a headache next morning (can´t remember where I have jumped off that night ...).
Cool
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Re: [Skez] Advice on head gear
Hahaha, that made me chuckle and brought a big smile to my face! Awesome!
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Re: [Skez] Advice on head gear
Skez wrote:
I found this upgrade to the g3...requires some diy but

Drop dead gorgeous
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Re: [Skez] Advice on head gear
I'm pretty sure those $30 Pro Tecs are not rated. I'll take a picture of the label in mine when I get home Monday, but I remember something along the lines of 'This helmet has no rating or certification and is not approved for impact use in New Jersey or California'. Basically they make it sound like you would be just as well off with a frap hat, and I couldn't agree more.
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Re: [idemallie] Advice on head gear
idemallie wrote:
I'm pretty sure those $30 Pro Tecs are not rated. I'll take a picture of the label in mine when I get home Monday, but I remember something along the lines of 'This helmet has no rating or certification and is not approved for impact use in New Jersey or California'. Basically they make it sound like you would be just as well off with a frap hat, and I couldn't agree more.

Those $30 (got mine for barely over $20) are indeed a hell of a lot better than a frap hat, BUT, with that said... I learned something today and need a new helmet.

I found this in the silverfish longboarding forums from someone who seemed to know what they were talking about

Some random person on the internet wrote:
Most of ProTec's helmets are available in two versions, with either EPS or SXP foam (which does meet several standards), and the Lo-Pro (2 stage soft foam), which is the version that doesn't meet standards. Get one of the SXP models, and you'll be good to go.

The part of the standard those models don't conform to is the ability to absorb impacts. They'll do a decent job of keeping your skull intact if you slam, but won't do much for slowing the impact enough to protect your brain. Think of that design as a car that has really strong bumpers, so the car doesn't get damaged in a crash, but doesn't have any seatbelts or airbags inside to protect the driver...


HOWEVER, my shitty little $20 pro-tec will be way safer than most peoples $200-300 skydiving helmet. And some of the pro-tecs are rated
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Re: [Zebu] Advice on head gear
The frap hat bit might be a sliiiight exaggeration. I definitely have the 2 stage foam one. There's a turtle shell on the sticker, which is a great analogy of a strong outer shell with a gooey interior that will get wrecked if you slam it against something hard.
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Re: [idemallie] Advice on head gear
Case reports are the lowest form of evidence. With that said: I had a full on frontal impact of a large rock (turbulence during landing off dz) that gave me 2 small fractures in my wrist, and a tiny one on my iliac crest. My head took most of the hit in a factory diver, giving me a small cut on my scalp. The impact was hard enough to drain my frontal sinus, I thought it was csf 😀. Without the helmet I am 100% certain that I would have had a traumatic brain injury. As it was, it was just a mild concussion. Ps. Medical care at Arco isnt that great.
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Re: [Brutus] Advice on head gear
Good question and lots of good advice already. Skydiving helmets are goggle replacements, dytter holders, and noise reducers, and yeah, you can stick a camera on them, and yeah, if you get a bit of a whack then your ear won't hurt as much. They are not for hitting solid objects, they are (maybe) for hitting other things that are in freefall that will move on impact. Not rocks. Not trees.

When I got back into base I read the GBOB and on the website they had a picture of a helmet and I looked it up and bought that one. If you trip on landing at Kjerag and hit your head on a rock it could change the rest of your life.

http://www.base-book.com/headwear
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Re: [neiljarvis] Advice on head gear
I always jumped a Pro-tec half shell helmet with the hard foam (EPS liner) inside. I had an accident a few months ago where that helmet stopped my head from meeting the sidewalk at high speed. I still have a little scar above my temple from where the helmet sat on my head. Cops still have my helmet so I haven't been able to look it over, but I am very curious how it fared. I believe those helmets are only good for one impact, so im interested to see what that hard foam looks like after taking a hit.

Moral of the story- wear a helmet, you never known when your luck will change.
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Re: [neiljarvis] Advice on head gear
neiljarvis wrote:
Case reports are the lowest form of evidence. With that said: I had a full on frontal impact of a large rock (turbulence during landing off dz) that gave me 2 small fractures in my wrist, and a tiny one on my iliac crest. My head took most of the hit in a factory diver, giving me a small cut on my scalp. The impact was hard enough to drain my frontal sinus, I thought it was csf 😀. Without the helmet I am 100% certain that I would have had a traumatic brain injury. As it was, it was just a mild concussion. Ps. Medical care at Arco isnt that great.

+100 on what Neil said. I witnessed a really good friend smack the wall on the Eiger. She was airlifted to Bern and suffered some minor fractures but nothing on the face and no brain trauma. The next day I went to retrieve her gear from Air Glaciers, her helmet (she was wearing DH heavy duty full face helmet) was broken on both jaw protectors and fully smashed directly from the front. You could see from the helmet that it had taken some serious impact and without the heavy duty full face helmet, I´m sure the outcome would have been significantly different. So choose yourself but understand the impact of your choice.
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661 rage
Does anyone have any experience jumping the sixsixone Rage helmet (slider off)?

I have heard good things however I would like to hear some bad experiences if you have them.

http://www.jensonusa.com/SixSixOne-Rage-Helmet-2014
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Re: [bedrok] 661 rage
bedrok wrote:
Does anyone have any experience jumping the sixsixone Rage helmet (slider off)?

I have heard good things however I would like to hear some bad experiences if you have them.

http://www.jensonusa.com/SixSixOne-Rage-Helmet-2014

I have an older model called the Comp which looks nearly identical, and use it for all slider-down jumps.
There is nothing bad about it at all in my experience.

I have worn it on a few subterminal slider up jumps as well and noticed the wind on the chin guard pulling the helmet down a bit while tracking in the 5-6 second range. Because of that I'd prefer to not use it for terminal jumps - but that's more about comfortability than anything else.
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Re: [MrAW] 661 rage
for those of you jumping full face downhill/paragliding helmets, do you also use them for terminal tracking/wingsuit jumps and tracking/wingsuit skydives?
if so, is the extended chin guard not an issue at high speeds?
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Re: [flooooooo] 661 rage
I use a Ruroc full face skiing helmet for terminal tracking with no problems at all but was glad i skydived it first as I had lots of movement going on, turns out the chin strap wanted to be tighter than I had it and once I tightened it it has been perfect
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Re: [nickgreen] 661 rage
thanks nick, but the chin guard on the ruroc is a lot closer to the chin than for a normal downhill helmet like other people are suggesting here. i wonder if the extended guard is a problem when looking around mid track at terminal speed...
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Re: [flooooooo] 661 rage
I have few jumps with Bell 2R and I don't have complaints during the free fall but I have only been tracking straight. When canopy opens the helmet tends to rotate and the chin guard blocks visibility a little. Bell 3R should have better fit but not sure.
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Re: [flooooooo] 661 rage
I've used the 661 Comp for a couple hundred tracking jumps, many with two Gopros or one mirrorless camera. It works great, I prefer it with sun glasses instead of goggles because they reduce your visibility a bit.
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Re: [Brutus] Advice on head gear
Depends what you'll be jumping.
-I like fullface helmets, especially for solid objects.
If you're jumping slider off/down, with 3-4 second delays, definitely go for a lightweight helmet.
-Bell 2r (or 3r) is light and has detachable chin guard (But I heard of one shattering on impact).
-The MET Parachute is slick, and is called the parachute, pretty neat, hey.
-For Staticlining, go and throws, or one second delays, a big heavy cheap full face downhill helmet will do (And it takes an absolute thrashing)
-I also use a Gyro Talon with a smokejumping full face cage for LZ's where crashing through trees is a possibility.

-If you mount a go pro, be aware that it's a snag point; I put tape over top of the camera to reduce snaggage.