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Hi ,
Never saw one of this before and not sure how serious I should consider it .
It's a building site with a nice crane and this sign is on the fence.
Not sure if is BS ( didn't saw any security camera, but I might missed them) or how much 'power' they have in the case I'm caught / busted.( this is in UK btw as you can see in the fee currency:) )

It's a good or rather a bad idea to remove the sign(s) before attempting the jump?

Any feedback much appreciated.
Thanks ( and apologias if I opened a new topic for something discussed already , I didn't found a relevant post to ask there).

A local was charged for recertification for a rope swing.

http://www.weau.com/...evice=tablet&c=y

..." contacted police after seeing a video of the stunt that Propson posted on YouTube ".

Pretty much speaks for itself .
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Why would you do that? What would it achieve apart from making it glaringly obvious to the site operators that people have been trespassing?

No sign, no crime

Errr no. The opposite in fact. No sign could mean being charged with an entirely pointless crime: vandalism, criminal damage, burglary or theft.

Jumping isn't illegal in the UK and we're generally dealt with quite leniently, providing we play the game...the rules of which can be summarised thus: you don't give the authorities attitude; you don't lie to them; you remain civil and polite and don't escalate the situation in any way; you take any reprimand coming to you and most importantly, you don't commit other pissy little crimes in the process.

Fucking with the sign is precisely the kind of thing which will get you into deeper shit. Just leave it be, climb the fence where there isn't a sign and plead ignorance if caught, promising not to come back like a good boy.

If you're really worried, go find another crane without a sign. They're not what you'd call in short supply and it isn't a big country.

I'm no expert on the law (or even on reality) but I'm pretty sure that's not the way the world works

Under UK law, ignorance is not a defense. Sign or no sign, your actions have cost money and we want it back.
This would be a matter under civil law and you could be liable for re-certifying the crane is safe, lost revenue/penalties for delays in completion and both your and the construction companies legal fees, should they wish to pursue the claim. Basically your actions have cost us £xxx and you need to pay us back.
Due to the fact cranes suspend tons of equipment over people's heads the inspection/re-certification costs could easily be justified and lost revenue/penalties etc easy to prove.
Could be a very expensive jump from any crane regardless of a sign.

Remove the sign and you are committing criminal damage and could be arrested/charged regardelles of the constructions company's stance/claim.

Thank god I don't live in the UK.
In good ol murica it has to be posted, I'd put the sign back after jumping just to make you happy ;)

Really?

So if I was to cost you a large sum of money for whatever reason and you had not posted a warning sign, you would not be able to sue me for your losses?

If it involved trespassing and there was no sign to say "no trespassing", then you really aren't breaking a law.
It has to say "no trespassing" or "private property" for the police to remove you, unless you already have a trespass warrant against you at that location. I thought this was common sense?

When did common sense ever have anything to do with the law?

But in this case common sense (and the law where you live) eans that if there isn't a sign because you took it down then you're still trespassing and you committed another crime by removing it.

And if the people who run the site are sensible enough to have documented that they did put the signs in place and routinely check that they're in place then who do you think sounds more credible, them or the crazy guy with the parachute?

Thank you everyone for the input.

I was thinking of putting the signs back, but I understood that is a bad idea to remove them in the first place.

Probably I will stay away , the chances that the entire jump is going to be unnoticed are quite low so it's not worth the risk.

I must admit, I had a wrong perception that climbing a crane on a construction site is less 'harmful' ( from law point of view) than climbing / trespassing other objects , but looks like the cranes are particularly sensitive ( re-certification and the potential other disruptions we may create)!

Thanks again.

We are not talking about trespass.
We are talking about if a construction company can bill you for an inspection I f you climb their crane.

We don't have trespass laws in the UK as such.
Trespass is a civil matter and only if the land owner has asked you to leave and you refuse. There are certain exception such as military bases or nuclear power stations or royal palaces.