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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvSOd_dDI_U

Evidently elbowing the container and reaching around saved his life...

I forgot to tighten the lings, during rigging, and a phone call. On my way to exit, I went trough the whole rigging and packing process, and figured out I forgot.

Phone calles during rigging and packing is lethal :D

In the last slow mo you can see the canopy coming out before he reaches around. So the PC must have popped the pins before letting go?

The PC was attached correctly to the bridle, so the pins popped fine. The bridle wasn't attached to the canopy correctly so it didn't extract the canopy.

Edit to add: At 2:12, you can see the bridle hanging from the PC

Thank you for sharing.

So are guys talking up chicks when chicks is packing and can't go away from them. Lucky that most are not so distracting even tho they try but please be polite and hit on them after pack job is done.

Much worse in skydiving than BASE, BASE jumpers respect packing more!

Bill Frogge

Reading the list prior should help in not getting on the list

Nice delay!

Nice save... if you're jumping a pin rig with the bridle routed into the container between the pins rather than over the top pin, you can easily check that bridle/canopy connection before jumping every time

RE: Nice Delay


Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

I knew you'd eventually post something funny

Would sucked if he packed slider down...

He should have yelled focus while packing

He was slider down

I heard 5 seconds delays slider down is really good for your gear and neck...

I heard 5 second delays at the bridge are really good for your stomach and intestines...

At that point, the position of your slider is pretty meaningless. I think it would be very difficult to get hurt by an opening at the bridge, but someone might prove me wrong. Of course if you're old and broken it's a different story, so I guess I'll just have to stay young forever.

6 second with nothing out is worse for you though

If your making these kind of mistakes you really should take a fjc.
i personally would recommend you not BASE jump until you can be more aware of your "true" ability. Aerials should be the last thing on your mind.

You just got a second chance most dont get... Let you be warned if your missing big stuff like this sometimes your missing little things all the time. Your ego is in the way of you understanding and staying within your ability. There wont be a next time statistically

Yes, because everybody knows that properly-trained, experienced people never make mistakes.

Personally, i think having a manly fucking beard is what saved him.

Nice job reacting to the problem, and much respect for posting the video for others to learn from. Any single one of us could make a mistake just as "dumb" and this is a great reminder against complacency.

I don't know anything about Karl's skydiving background or gear knowledge, but I think it is worth noting that the prior jump was his first time doing a TARD (it was my first too). I remember after I did the jump that I was highly aware and probably scared to a fault when I reattached my bridle. I reattached and unattached it about 3 or 4 times and tugged the hell out of it until I knew that whatever force would have removed it from the attachment point would have taken my canopy to line stretch several times over. Obviously talking on the phone was an issue, but I think the fact that he didn't go to someone for help when he was doing something for the first time was a mistake too. I don't mean to be critical, but I think it is an educational component of the incident worth noting. I also did not seek guidance when reattaching my bridle, and I think that was probably a safety failure on my part as well.

Bottom line: never do something for the first time on your own. People already figured out the mistakes not to make the hard way. Don't repeat them out of laziness or overconfidence.

Although you may be right, It's ironic to think about the fact that Jimmy Pouchert, a person who runs one of the better known FJCs, made a very similar, but more egregious oversight...when he jumped with no PC.

"Success breeds complacency. Complacency breeds failure. Only the paranoid survive."

WTF? Why?

It's a larkshead. If the bridle's through its own loop it's through it's own loop. It's a binary knot, it's either larksheaded or not larksheaded, there is no inbetween state...

Im really hoping they dont mean create a larkshead then put the whole ring inside it pull tight....as in not passing it through the ring...if u catch my drift

My drift is that you put the bridle through the connection point, feed the bridle through itself and pull. If you've done it right it's connected. If you haven't it isn't.

I can't fathom how you could fully check it over and still not know whether it's connected

If you don't have OCD it is hard to fathom the action of those who do.

that is a Bitchin Beard .
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Because I'm paranoid, that's why. I don't advocate self-teaching, but when I'm figuring stuff out on my own, I do whatever is overkill and then do it a little bit more. The first time I made a bridle, I put 5 bartacks in it. You might think this is unreasonable, but I generally think whatever makes you feel comfortable is the right thing to do, and over-overkill makes me feel comfortable, just like going handheld on an object I could take 3 seconds off of.

I don't think everyone should go to the same extent I do, but I do think this incident shows being overly cautious beats being underly cautious. Usually it's difficult for beginners to jump straight to that happy medium without instruction.

As someone with what I believe is a legitimate case of OCD I completely understand. For me, I check everything in sets of three, or multiples of three.

Three tugs on the attachment point. Three tugs on the PC attachment point. Open/close the container to look at the pins three times. Three checks of leg straps/chest strap, lock my car three times in a row, etc.

I know it's crazy. It's obviously crazy. I don't repeat the behavior because I think I need to lock my car three times. I do it because it makes me feel better. For some reason that I can't explain, it just feels better to do it three times.

So to idemallie's point...just do what makes you comfortable. Because when you're comfortable and confident you're more likely to perform.

Now try not to make fun of my 45 minute packjobs, because it's really three packjobs in one. And I'm very unlikely to miss something like this three times in a row.

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There is a difference between OCD and Paranoid

I once saw a buddy pop both pins on top of an antenna

to make sure his bridle was still attached inside... and

this was our second load, nothing undone or changed.

That one goes into the top ten "Should Be Dead" lists.
Obviously you don't need to be told what to do on your future switches of bridles.

Kinda how Dead Steve got his nickname.

edit: when it comes to gear, you almost can't be too paranoid. Your life depends on it, so take great care.