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I came here with my popcorn this morning for a chuckle at the thread airing a certain grievance regarding a BASE course only to find the thread deleted?? Is this what this forun has come to??

The thread was posted by a throw away account that was created just for that purpose, to anonymously stir shit.

I disabled the account and removed the thread.

If someone wants to repost it with their name attached, we can start that discussion again.

Aaah. Understood...

That's fucking bullshit Tom.

Edit: Half the accounts on here are anonymous, the other half are here to stir shit.

Anonymous is one thing, so is being a moron. A fake account with a registered date of last night trying to start crap on the internet though. . .
Tom lets through a ton of crazy on these boards and it's fine up to a point. If you want to whine or troll go to reddit and start a BASE thread. See how long you can stand 10 year olds yelling at you in memes before you come back.

Get over it. Go troll somewhere else or better yet, go make a jump.

Maybe instead of whining like a little bitch about something on the forum you could perhaps, hmmm, talk to the person you have a grievance against personally. That way, the serious jumpers don't have to read your bullshit. You know who affects my BASE jumping? ME. Certainly not some dude teaching courses or lighting shit on fire. Oh they might make BASE illegal, whayyy whaaayy whaayyyyy, guess what fuckers I'm still gonna jump and there ain't a damn thing anyone can do about it.

Not directed at anyone in particular, to those that this applies

Yeah, bitch bitch bitch. But you'd agree shit is getting pretty serious, right? Shit is getting hot. Way high volume and it was bound to happen.

Mentoring is all but dead. "Accept anyone" instruction with sub-100 jump skydivers (and in some cases far less) under false pretenses is getting people hurt already. Should we just not give a shit when people going in and getting hurt threatens access and creates more shit for jumpers to deal with?

I mean, yeah...fuck it, "pirate rules" and all, but the floodgates are open, the volume is increasing and overall the standards seem to have been lowered by a few people when it comes to marketing "quality" instruction.

Few are going to listen to the opinion of someone else if it contradicts their stance. A discussion in private with someone who won't change is pointless. Calling it like you see it is fine. That's self-regulation. Doesn't mean anyone will follow, but it calls to question something you see as wrong and might sway enough people to give it thought and take another path.

Not really that serious. I blame the temperature on the sun. Mentoring isn't dead, I think blitz made a video explaining how to find a mentor, don't be a douche.
There are plenty of places to jump, if it's hot let it simmer down.
Arrrr matey, thar be be a lot more jumpers now than before, if they choose a shitty FJC it's their own damn fault. I'm not going to regulate who wants to learn BASE from a specific person or company. It's self regulating. If the guys a shit teacher than he will hear about it and nobody will attend his course.
A discussion on a forum about someone who won't change is pointless also. Gather the posse and rope boys lets have us a hangin, no lets get the tar and feathers, no let's take another path, let's just keep whining behind the keyboard and end up doing nothing, yeah the last one sounds about right.

A. I wasn't whining. I was asking a question about perceived censorship and B. I don't have any beef with anyone. I was sitting back enjoying the deserved anonymous flaming so back off Warchild. Seriously.

Well A. I never specifically said you were whining. And B. It wasn't directed at anyone except those who were whining, it said so at the bottom of my post. C. http://youtu.be/dEoPYCLf0Wk

Relevant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cVzM13DGR0

Sorry braah.I misread your post..


https://youtu.be/xUuIaAGbzbA

"Censorship" is when the government does it. BJ.com is private.
Example; If some one post's some thing on my fb page and I delete it. that isn't censorship, if facebook deletes something from my page, That isnt censorship, If the government deletes something from my fb page, That is censorship.
take care,
space

+1

Just like our president is Mulatto.

Words have meaning

Not true at all. Anyone or any company can censor things by removing content they don't like. Any time you are suppressing speech it is a form of censorship.

You are confusing the issue of legal free speech with censorship. BJ.com or Facebook deleting posts is not a violation of free speech. It's their playground, they can do what they want. It is not illegal for them to censor their own sites. But it is still censorship.

The question is not: is it legal for tom to delete posts... it is unquestionably legal. The question is whether it's the right choice for the community here. (I lean toward yes, remove garbage posts, but thats not really my point... it is still censorship)

You are mistaken. Censor must be done by an official.
Take care and look it up.
space

I have it upon good authority (Mr. Merriam and Mr. Webster), that the concept of censorship is not the exclusive domain of the government.

Definition of CENSORSHIP
1 a : the institution, system, or practice of censoring
b : the actions or practices of censors; especially : censorial control exercised repressively
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/censorship

Definition of CENSOR
1 : a person who supervises conduct and morals: as
a : an official who examines materials (as publications or films) for objectionable matter
b : an official (as in time of war) who reads communications (as letters) and deletes material
considered sensitive or harmful
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/censor

Oh, and you better check the definition of an "official" too, since that is also not the exclusive purview of the government:

Definition of OFFICIAL
: a person who has a position of authority in a company, organization, or government : a person who holds an office
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/official

A forum moderator is an "official" of that private organization.

So there *IS* such a thing as private censorship. Many forums practice it. Just because it's not done by government doesn't make it right and legal. Doesn't make it wrong and illegal either. It depends upon the perspective and nature of the deletions. Just because someone is an "official" doesn't mean that their actions are always correct. There are plenty of such people who exercise their privileges and authority in an arbitrary and capricious manner.

Nothin like a good shut down.
Makes the popcorn taste oh so good!

Ahhh. So easy to amuse.
take care,
space

Nothing personal, it was just nicely played

Have a good one

no it wasn't, it was total miss

Space said "official."

he not specify private or public, did he? You to, muppet (nothing personal).

so know-it-all confirm Space statement, not shut down, didn't he?

And dont you know, there is no censors on this forum; they are moderaters. Know-it-all should look up THAT definition.

C

Helps to read the whole thread, unless you're just trolling?


And it seemed like Space appreciated the banter, if not, then it's an innocent cultural difference, so, Entschụldigung.

nothing personal, just fun to shut down muppets.

totally innocent, so lighten up cutie pie.

:-)

C

Shut down ~

"When you try to make a good call on something but end up looking like a tool yourself, have your comeback destryed. To try and make yourself look cool by putting someone down but then they make you look like a tool."

Ironic