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Everyone loves their OSP. I have yet to hear anything really negative about it slider-off, slider-down, slider-up, terminal, tracking, wingsuit, etc.

I'm looking to buy an all-around canopy. Sub-terminal all the way up to tracking and wingsuits. Everyone I've talked to has had no issues with the OSP at terminal airspeeds with the slow slider but I wanted to check here before committing to a purchase.

Any negative experiences on the OSP? For s/u do you just throw on the slow slider and pack normally?

Thanks!

The only real down side is the glide angle, which isn't as good as the higher glide canopies on the market. If you don't need to reach a remote landing area, you basically trade the glide (which you don't need) for fantastic stability in turbulence and great sink ability.

With the slow slider, you're pretty much good to go. Even with the standard (large mesh) slider, I know a couple people doing terminal jumps with no real issues.

Awesome, thanks Tom!

and in all honestly, one of our lovely northwest objects requires quite a long canopy flight to make even the tertiary LZ, and nobody that has jumped their OSP off it including myself has ever had a problem with glide and making it back.
its a beautiful canopy

as for terminal, ive jumped the large mesh and the slow slider, and the slow slider basically feels like it opens just as quick, but a bit softer. i jumped the slow slider and pitched at 7 seconds recently with a reef/packjob where i was expecting terminal airspeeds, but got spooked by rapidly approaching talus and pitched early.
it opened very quickly, soft, and right on heading with no snively heading problems

if you're talking about "TR" then i know someone who has taken an OSP from it and made it back regularly.

exactly dude.
i have not yet had a problem making it back. last time me and roomy were down there, winds were dead up top and on the ground, but on opening, we both hit a very strange headwind, both under OSPs. we both made it back to the swamp on the left with no problems, and probably could have made the house but didnt want to chance it.
its easy peasy on the OSP

I always hear this argument but are there truly people jumping objects that this has actually been a factor? Seems that I have never had a problem or seen one or heard of one. Only ever in theory.

Yes quite often, one very important aspect for me choosing a canopy for where I jump.

So you regularly do jumps that a Flik/Black Jack will pull off but an OSP/Troll couldn't? Based on nothing but glide angle?
I'm not saying it's not a consideration for people I just don't see it being the ultimate deciding factor on canopy choice. I am yet to come across a jump that I have hesitated at because of my poor gliding canopies.

Yes I regularly jump in areas where you have to make the landing area or there are multiple landing areas and the further you can get the better the area or closer where you need to get out.
We jump in mountain currents sinking air and high altitude.
Ive had jumps where I have had to land on talus more than once.
Our last jump the flick made it to the landing going straight there. The troll landed in the ditch short of the landing area and I was able to play with my front make turns and set up for the landing. The more glide you have the more you can play around in the canyons and still make the landing.
I would be nice to have canopy that has good sink capabilities and opens with no forward speed but it does not glide good im out.
I have never had a 180 I could not turn around yet but have had plenty of short landings. Its more of a factor for me where I jump.
I have jumped an osp would not get one. Have flown with lobos but not tried one. If the outlaw has as good as glide I would probably pony up and try a new canopy.
My BJ is probably going to be getting tired soon has over 700 jumps but I can find a canopy that has more capability and more glide Ill get another.

And there was no other way to mitigate the risk of landing short ie. don't take it to the basement?

Edit: Before anyone gets their feelings hurt. I believe what you are saying and I am not trying to be a dick with my questions. Just trying to find out if the higher glide canopies are a preference vs absolutely necessary.

Some jumps your already in the basement on exit

well in that case, glide isnt a factor

Unless you hike up 2000 feet to get there

touche!

I have had mine for about 2,5 years now. I really like it, but the only problem I have with it I cannot make it to sink in. I mean, it can go super slow (but still flies forward) and then it just starts to stall.

I have two trolls and have no problem with singing those in. But maybe I'm just doing it wrong. One friend of mine has the same problem, so maybe that makes two of us :)

Otherwise it's a great canopy. I use it mainly for SD and sub-terminal SU and in both it preforms fantastic. But for tight spots I still take one of my trolls, so I feel more comfortable when I need to sink it in.

Don't use it for terminal SU, as I only have big mesh slider and with my exit weigth (115 kg, 252 lbs) openings are super hard.

Have a look at the Squirrel Outlaw. If you want you can jump mine the next time you're here, but you'll be under loading it a bit

I prefer higher glide canopies because they give me more decision room in flight. The "cone of possibility" (the area I can fly to) is just bigger, and that allows me more options, which can be the difference between having to take the sketchy landing area and making the good one.

Even if you are intentionally pulling high, you can experience issues that eat up altitude (line twists, for example) and make it useful to have more glide.

I don't think glide is the defining characteristic of a canopy by a long margin, but if all else is equal, it's definitely something I want to have.