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NV is now BASE tresspassing felony.http://www.leg.state.nv.us/Session/78th2015/Bills/SB/SB160_R2.pdf

sect 3.5
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Re: [illwreckyourbox] vegas... felony
Can we get a certain evil-monkey attorney to break this down for us?

Trespassing for BASE purposes is a felony in NV now? As opposed to normal trespassing?
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Re: [bluhdow] vegas... felony
Looks like ground crew may be subject to the same felony:

Section 3.5 of this bill: (1) provides that a person who jumps or otherwise removes himself or herself, by parachute or by other airborne means, from a fixed structure owned by another person or a person who knowingly delivers or retrieves another person who intends to commit, is committing or has committed such an act is deemed a trespasser for the purpose of section 2 of this bill; and (2) provides that a person who violates a provision of section 3.5 is guilty of a category E felony.
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Re: [nicrussell] vegas... felony
Angry monkey present and accounted for.

Yes, the Nevada state legislature has indeed just passed a bill doing two things:

1) Making BASE jumping a felony in the state of Nevada (whether or not you rented a room), and
2) Absolving the property owner of any liability for damages associated with jumps.

The bill was approved, sent to committee, approved by committee, re-read and re-approved by the house then signed by the governor. The law is effective as of May 30, 2015.

(http://www.leg.state.nv.us/...y.cfm?billname=SB160)

In sum, the casino/hotel owners that run the state of Nevada don't want to get sued for dick-noses who slam into their buildings (& antennas).
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Re: [nicrussell] vegas... felony
This section does not apply to:
(a) An emergency involving public safety or damage to
property, loss of life or injury to any person;

"but yer honer, im pretty sure the stripper had a gun, i HAD to jump"
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Re: [surfers98] vegas... felony
Now it's a waiting game. Let's see how they handle the first crew to get arrested.

Have at it folks!

Side note: I'm assuming this only applies to objects that are actually owned by someone. Point being that any NV E exits are not included in this law. Correct?
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Re: [bluhdow] vegas... felony
bluhdow wrote:
I'm assuming this only applies to objects that are actually owned by someone. Point being that any NV E exits are not included in this law. Correct?

Based on my reading, correct. This only applies to jumps from private property.
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Re: [DeerBone] vegas... felony
I felt an earthquake and decided it safer than taking the stairs.

[urlhttp://earthquaketrack.com/r/nevada/recent
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Re: [illwreckyourbox] vegas... felony
So it seems this is a direct result of the Youboob heros not giving a shit about anyone but themselves and posting their exploits for the world to see.

Why the hell do people think it's ok to publicly display jumps from sites they were not invited to jump from? What are you gaining from it? A few dollars and a few adolescents that think your rad? Well you just screwed all your brothers and sisters over for your ego....

Thanks and fuck you! Mad

(que the angry Swiss guy)
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Re: [surfers98] vegas... felony
surfers98 wrote:
The law is effective as of May 30, 2015.

Wow, so glad we did that last B on the 29th!
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Re: [BJ393] vegas... felony
FYI, the statute sets it as a 'Category E felony', which is the 'lightest' felony they have in NV. Here's the punishment language:

"NRS 193.130(e) A category E felony is a felony for which a court shall sentence a convicted person to imprisonment in the state prison for a minimum term of not less than 1 year and a maximum term of not more than 4 years. Except as otherwise provided in paragraph (b) of subsection 1 of NRS 176A.100, upon sentencing a person who is found guilty of a category E felony, the court shall suspend the execution of the sentence and grant probation to the person upon such conditions as the court deems appropriate. Such conditions of probation may include, but are not limited to, requiring the person to serve a term of confinement of not more than 1 year in the county jail. In addition to any other penalty, the court may impose a fine of not more than $5,000, unless a greater penalty is authorized or required by statute."

This means that unless you're a huge fuck-head, if the charge sticks you'd almost definitely receive a one year suspended sentence, meaning no jail time, but lots of community service and about a $1k fine. Oh, and you'd still have a fucking felony on your record. In practice though, you'd more likely plea it down to misdemeanor trespassing (unless you have priors).

Edited to add: The foregoing does not constitute legal advice. I'm not your lawyer. Blah blah blah. Fuck off.
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Re: [surfers98] vegas... felony
surfers98 wrote:
FYI, the statute sets it as a 'Category E felony', which is the 'lightest' felony they have in NV. Here's the punishment language:

"NRS 193.130(e) A category E felony is a felony for which a court shall sentence a convicted person to imprisonment in the state prison for a minimum term of not less than 1 year and a maximum term of not more than 4 years. Except as otherwise provided in paragraph (b) of subsection 1 of NRS 176A.100, upon sentencing a person who is found guilty of a category E felony, the court shall suspend the execution of the sentence and grant probation to the person upon such conditions as the court deems appropriate. Such conditions of probation may include, but are not limited to, requiring the person to serve a term of confinement of not more than 1 year in the county jail. In addition to any other penalty, the court may impose a fine of not more than $5,000, unless a greater penalty is authorized or required by statute."

This means that unless you're a huge fuck-head, if the charge sticks you'd almost definitely receive a one year suspended sentence, meaning no jail time, but lots of community service and about a $1k fine. Oh, and you'd still have a fucking felony on your record. In practice though, you'd more likely plea it down to misdemeanor trespassing (unless you have priors).

Edited to add: The foregoing does not constitute legal advice. I'm not your lawyer. Blah blah blah. Fuck off.

Wait you're not my lawyer anymore?!?! Goddammit it's getting close to that time of year where i need one again...
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Re: [illwreckyourbox] vegas... felony
Turn off your GoPros shitheads. Straight from the drafting text of the law:

"Amendment: An amendment was proposed by the Nevada Resort Association prohibiting BASE (Building-Antennae–Span–Earth) jumping unless explicitly permitted in advance. A person who violates this prohibition is considered a trespasser and guilty of a category E felony.

Explanation: Unauthorized BASE (Building-Antennae-Span-Earth) jumping has been an increasingly popular trend in Las Vegas, with several videos being posted to YouTube each year documenting jumps from various Las Vegas Strip properties. The activity features individuals with parachutes in backpacks jumping from property roofs, (or in some instances, balconies of property guest rooms) leaving properties open to questions of liability. Under current law, BASE jumping is not specifically listed as a criminal offense and the trespassing statute is vague. The amendment proposes to amend SB 160 to specifically prohibit BASE jumping and make it an act criminally punishable in Nevada, unless explicitly permitted in advance. The amendment further proposes that a person who violates this prohibition is considered a trespasser pursuant to Section 2 of the bill, and is guilty of a category E felony under NRS 193.130."

(Source: https://www.leg.state.nv.us/...oadName=SB%20160.pdf)

If you don't like it, write the fuck-knocker state senator who introduced it: State Majority Senator Michael Roberson (unsurprisingly, Republican). Love letters can be sent to:

Michael Roberson
http://Michael.Roberson@sen.state.nv.us
P.O. Box 530940
Henderson, NV 89053-0940
702-612-6929
https://www.leg.state.nv.us/.../A/Senate/Current/20

Also, don't forget to send your love to the Nevada Resort Association, which lobbied for this bill's passing, and to Sheldon Adelson, for being a mind-numbingly colossal douche.
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Re: [surfers98] vegas... felony
surfers98 wrote:
Turn off your GoPros shitheads. Straight from the drafting text of the law:


Hence, my comments above...
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Re: [surfers98] vegas... felony
 
In reply to:
Turn off your GoPros shitheads. Straight from the drafting text of the law:

"Amendment: An amendment was proposed by the Nevada Resort Association prohibiting BASE (Building-Antennae–Span–Earth) jumping unless explicitly permitted in advance. A person who violates this prohibition is considered a trespasser and guilty of a category E felony.

Explanation: Unauthorized BASE (Building-Antennae-Span-Earth) jumping has been an increasingly popular trend in Las Vegas, with several videos being posted to YouTube each year documenting jumps from various Las Vegas Strip properties. The activity features individuals with parachutes in backpacks jumping from property roofs, (or in some instances, balconies of property guest rooms) leaving properties open to questions of liability. Under current law, BASE jumping is not specifically listed as a criminal offense and the trespassing statute is vague. The amendment proposes to amend SB 160 to specifically prohibit BASE jumping and make it an act criminally punishable in Nevada, unless explicitly permitted in advance. The amendment further proposes that a person who violates this prohibition is considered a trespasser pursuant to Section 2 of the bill, and is guilty of a category E felony under NRS 193.130."
(Source: https://www.leg.state.nv.us/...oadName=SB%20160.pdf)

If you don't like it, write the fuck-knocker state senator who introduced it: State Majority Senator Michael Roberson (unsurprisingly, Republican). Love letters can be sent to:

Michael Roberson
http://Michael.Roberson@sen.state.nv.us
P.O. Box 530940
Henderson, NV 89053-0940
702-612-6929
https://www.leg.state.nv.us/.../A/Senate/Current/20

Also, don't forget to send your love to the Nevada Resort Association, which lobbied for this bill's passing, and to Sheldon Adelson, for being a mind-numbingly colossal douche.

HAHAHA!! You are my favorite lawyer in the world.
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Re: [surfers98] vegas... felony
Interesting. So the next time they want to promote the opening of a high rise casino, I wonder who will be willing to whore them selves out to do the promotion or the next movie stunt. I like the way that they keep their options open to make us their bitch when ever they want.

And your worried about finger prints at bridge day. The real danger is legal trends like this. Fuck NV. Any one who goes on vacation and spends money there is a sell out.

Lee
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Re: [RiggerLee] vegas... felony
RiggerLee wrote:
Interesting. So the next time they want to promote the opening of a high rise casino, I wonder who will be willing to whore them selves out to do the promotion or the next movie stunt.

Red Bull will always be there hooking on the corner.
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Re: [illwreckyourbox] vegas... felony
Although I have personally messaged people putting videos and pictures of a well-known Vegas jumped building and I despise the sharing of the latter on social media, I feel this is just a minor issue in the big picture.

The real problem here is a senator took time away from a state that has potentially one of the worst water crises facing it in the world to write a law about BASE jumping. Specifically endowing it with a criminal offense punishable by a felony offense. This law was probably not consulted with any BASE jumpers and points to a significant flaw in our justice system with special interest law making.

Of course the sentence regarding the waiver of liability should be passed as a way to abstain from lawsuits, however to punish a victimless crime with innocuous motive by a felony offense shows just how much individual freedom we appreciate in this country.
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Re: [base570] vegas... felony
base570 wrote:
So it seems this is a direct result of the Youboob heros not giving a shit about anyone but themselves and posting their exploits for the world to see.

Why the hell do people think it's ok to publicly display jumps from sites they were not invited to jump from? What are you gaining from it? A few dollars and a few adolescents that think your rad? Well you just screwed all your brothers and sisters over for your ego....

Thanks and fuck you! Mad

(que the angry Swiss guy)

+100
I'd add like to extend the invitation (to fuck themselves) to so many others goproaddicctedepictvyoutubeassholejumpers in other countries too
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Re: [Mitchpee] vegas... felony
I just hope more states dont follow in Nevadas foot steps, all of these state side videos are doing is showing the public that BASE happens in their back yard after all. There was a recent day blaze here that was recklessly done during a sporting event and put on facebook for the world to see... thankfully the video was taken down before "too many" people saw it, but it should have never aired in the first place.... never mind the day blaze into a street filled with people. BASE jumpers are their own worst enemy, what happened to "if someone sees you, your jump was not a success"?
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Re: [DeerBone] vegas... felony
DeerBone wrote:
what happened to "if someone sees you, your jump was not a success"?

But if no one sees it how will people know how rad we are?
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Re: [Mitchpee] vegas... felony
Mitchpee wrote:
...and points to a significant flaw in our justice system with special interest law making.

Disco. Money talks kids. The hotel/casino lobby in NV is all-powerful.

The scary thing is precedent. Now there is language that other lawmakers can point to and use as a template. Don't give them a reason to do so.
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Re: [Mitchpee] vegas... felony
Mitchpee wrote:
Although I have personally messaged people putting videos and pictures of a well-known Vegas jumped building and I despise the sharing of the latter on social media, I feel this is just a minor issue in the big picture.

The real problem here is a senator took time away from a state that has potentially one of the worst water crises facing it in the world to write a law about BASE jumping. Specifically endowing it with a criminal offense punishable by a felony offense. This law was probably not consulted with any BASE jumpers and points to a significant flaw in our justice system with special interest law making.

Of course the sentence regarding the waiver of liability should be passed as a way to abstain from lawsuits, however to punish a victimless crime with innocuous motive by a felony offense shows just how much individual freedom we appreciate in this country.

Maybe they think the fines will pay for the water they need Crazy

It seems the original intent of the bill was to reduce the duty property owners had to trespassers and move back to more of a common law scenario. Basically where property owners had no duty to trespassers and to make it harder for trespassers to sue the land owners. I don't disagree with this but it seems the NRA and Nevada museum of Arts lobbied(read as paid off) the legislature to include wording to their benefit.

One thing that is curious to me is that this was considered an 'emergency' action and pushed through quickly. I'm wondering if anyone recently got busted and is threatening to sue because of an injury or maybe just to get out of a charge.

Also, the wording of the bill to me implies that a person using a zip line or ropes could also be charged.
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Re: [base570] vegas... felony
base570 wrote:
One thing that is curious to me is that this was considered an 'emergency' action and pushed through quickly. I'm wondering if anyone recently got busted and is threatening to sue because of an injury or maybe just to get out of a charge.

I doubt it was an emergency in the case of responding to a pending suit. I could be wrong, but that just doesn't seem likely. More likely is that BASE has become more and more visible and the casinos are taking note and want to cover their asses. The language from the original drafting of the amendment that surfers98 posted above supports this. I think he nailed it.
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Re: [colsco] vegas... felony
colsco wrote:
base570 wrote:
One thing that is curious to me is that this was considered an 'emergency' action and pushed through quickly. I'm wondering if anyone recently got busted and is threatening to sue because of an injury or maybe just to get out of a charge.

I doubt it was an emergency in the case of responding to a pending suit. I could be wrong, but that just doesn't seem likely. More likely is that BASE has become more and more visible and the casinos are taking note and want to cover their asses. The language from the original drafting of the amendment that surfers98 posted above supports this. I think he nailed it.

I don't disagree with you, I know the casinos are trying to cover their ass and I know BASE is much more visible but to be pushed through as an emergency is still curious and I was just throwing out the lawsuit scenario as speculation. I've read through everything I could find on the background of the bill, that's what prompted my original post about youtube videos being uploaded, but I can't find why it would be considered an emergency. I need do some more research to find out what exactly is considered an emergency in their eyes. I guess loss of revenue is an emergency to some Wink
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Re: [base570] vegas... felony
I doubt there was an actual emergency that prompted it's passing. Like all politics, it's just a hole in the system that lawmakers take advantage of to accomplish their objectives.
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Re: [illwreckyourbox] vegas... felony
I really don't understand why anyone is surprised, much less upset about this law. Honestly what did everyone expect to happen? Of course they're going to ban something that not only exposes them to liability, but also may inadvertently cause their insurance companies to raise the rates. Casino's and hotels exist to make money, and this may impact their bottom line, hence the law being lobbied and passed.
Also, how can we not expect them to retaliate when jumps made from their buildings are blatantly thrown in their faces for the whole world to see? A quick youtube search yields the following videos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7jCrocn8nc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FUW_qh_h57U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OWB7dO-mJiM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtSySVFCREo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcMKJ5ZPrig

There are more but I think we all get the gist...
So did these videos look rad? Sure. Are we now paying the Price? Yup... Just my thoughts.

On a side note it also seems like a knee jerk reaction to boycott Las Vegas outright. It's a rational response on their part, and I see no reason to hold anyone accountable but ourselves.
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Re: [skup] vegas... felony
Guessing the World Trade Center arrests and trial also played a large part in this... The WTC guys are currently fighting the one felony charge and this new law circumvents the need for a burglary charge to up the consequences of an arrest.

There really have been a prolific number of Nevada jumps circulating the inter-webs. As well as illegal jumps in general, the GoPro anti-heros...

American BASE sure has been blowing it (up) lately.

GoPro, be a zero!
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Re: [base570] vegas... felony
Pull the fire alarm then jump duh
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Re: [skup] vegas... felony
Atlantic city did the same thing years back, and Vegas has been getting whored out with BASE for years, Jeb and his boy gave a " how to" tutorial in sneaking into the Stratosphere for Christ sakes. Why be surprised, 24hr booze hotels with balconies, geez!