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B52
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Wingsuit at Brento
I recently came back from Brento and noticed that more and more people in bigger suits (Ghosts, Funks, V5s, C2s,..) are not able to open over the landing area in front of the bar at ~600+ ft when aiming directly for it.

In my ignorant opinion: If you cannot open over the landing area, you don't fly your suit well and are not ready to wingsuit base it. You need to skydive it A LOT more.

If you make it to the landing area in a Phantom, Hatch,..now at least you know how to get a good glide ratio. This does in my opinion not mean you can fly well. There are many more aspects to wingsuit flying before you can start wingsuit base.

I assume you know your equipment and pack well...
Exit: If you are worried about your exit, you are not ready to wingsuit base.
A bigger suit is more challenging to exit and does not make up for your lack of skills.

Glide ratio: If you cannot open over the main landing are at 600ft + at Brento in a Phantom..or let's say a Ghost,..you suck and are not ready to wingsuit base.

Pull: If you are worried about it, you are not ready to wingsuit base. You need to perfect it!

Get coaching from good/credible wingsuiters, not the best wingsuiter in your area, because he/she probably sucks.

Have at it, rip it apart, but it's scary how wrong people are about their wingsuit skill level.
hjumper33
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Re: [B52] Wingsuit at Brento
Excellent post. If you look at the last 50+ base fatalities, they are 90%+ wingsuit associated. Take these things seriously. Wingsuit skydiving is not wingsuit base jumping.
yuri_base
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Re: [B52] Wingsuit at Brento
It's easy to tell at Brento from the exit point who knows their suit and who doesn't. I'd call it "Brento Test": if jumper at some point starts going down in your line of sight (meaning, the angle from vertical to the jumper as viewed from exit starts decreasing), they don't know the suit. The line of sight to proper flier should always be increasing (although the longer the flight, the exponentially slower the line of sight is going up).

This is because for long flights you have to fly at your maximum L/D almost all the time (except for a first few seconds). In this case, the trajectory's sustained part (after about 20-30s, depending on wingloading), if extended back to the wall, intersects it below the exit (this is what can be called "start-to-fly" height). If the jumper in your view starts going down, that means their trajectory, extended back to the wall, intersects it above the exit. At Brento, this means their L/D is below 2.0. Which is a shame for big wingsuits that are capable of L/D 2.75-3.0. Ergo, they don't know how to fly their suit properly.
Mikki_ZH
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Re: [B52] Wingsuit at Brento
B52 wrote:
I recently came back from Brento and noticed that more and more people in bigger suits (Ghosts, Funks, V5s, C2s,..) are not able to open over the landing area in front of the bar at ~600+ ft when aiming directly for it.

In my ignorant opinion: If you cannot open over the landing area, you don't fly your suit well and are not ready to wingsuit base it. You need to skydive it A LOT more.

If you make it to the landing area in a Phantom, Hatch,..now at least you know how to get a good glide ratio. This does in my opinion not mean you can fly well. There are many more aspects to wingsuit flying before you can start wingsuit base.

I assume you know your equipment and pack well...
Exit: If you are worried about your exit, you are not ready to wingsuit base.
A bigger suit is more challenging to exit and does not make up for your lack of skills.

Glide ratio: If you cannot open over the main landing are at 600ft + at Brento in a Phantom..or let's say a Ghost,..you suck and are not ready to wingsuit base.

Pull: If you are worried about it, you are not ready to wingsuit base. You need to perfect it!

Get coaching from good/credible wingsuiters, not the best wingsuiter in your area, because he/she probably sucks.

Have at it, rip it apart, but it's scary how wrong people are about their wingsuit skill level.

I'm worried about my exit and my pull on every jump. If I'm not worried anymore, I will stop jumping.

I'm not worried about my glide on a jump like Brento because it is not relevant. I can pull where ever I want and I don't give a shit how high I'm over the landing. This is maybe the most important reason why I try to do my first jumps on a new suit at Brento.