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Why?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h52bFl9qqmE

Attempt cutaways on lower objects? The thrill? The coolness factor? Seems like a tall A is the better choice if yer gonna give it a go. Margin for error in base is small enough, drastically reducing it by throwing a cutaway in on low objects seems, well...........

This one was not on fire but damn near ended the same. Crazy

Kids these days.

Mods, if this is a re-post plz delete.
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Re: [dride] Why?
Because we are BASE jumpers. We purposefully put ourselves into high risk situations in pursuit of a particular thing. Whether it's self growth, curiosity, boredom, that attention we never got in second grade, etc., we all have a reason(s) for doing it. Nobody's reason is more correct than anyone else's.

It's these types of things that push limits. Whether they are necessary to push or not is up to no one but the individual that is performing the act. Suspension BASE jumping, cutaway fire canopies, etc are definitely not going to progress the sport, but it's respectable in the sense that this is within their right of the purity of freedom to do these things that affect nobody but the individual partaking. Now, there are certainly times and places to do this that are not completely reckless, and you would hope this fine line is walked with great care.

One thing I have noticed is the people that have put in a lot of work to ensure we can ride a tram, bus, or hike up to the top of an exit are not the people doing reckless things. They are the people sitting behind the curtains respecting the freedom they have created and timidly try to usher people to make the right decision. They know how hard it is to justify this sport to outsiders and the media. How hard it is to sit there in front of the superintendent of a National Park and plead your case after driving 6 hours, only to be given some illogical explanation that confirms their own bias within. To consistently have people not return your calls, emails, and to outright lie about promised actions. You don't see the Swiss BASE guys landing on the road at Lauterbrunnen or pulling low over power lines. You don't see the Norwegians of Lysboten doing things that jeopardize their own land. These things build a deep sense of appreciation for the little places we do have. Does anyone feel that sense of sacrifice these people have made when they go to Lauterbrunnen? How about Brento? Norway?

It will always be easier to take shortcuts. To not ask for permission and satisfy that instant gratification that we as BASE jumpers constantly feel so entitled to. I would be lying if I said I have never taken part in it, or been swept up by the moment. That's why we are human and not robots. We have emotion and sometimes let that beat rationale. The important thing is to move forward and to learn from these things. Look deep inside your own decision making and be honest with yourself in what you take and what you give. There sure is a lot of taking but how many people are actually giving? That's not even about BASE jumping, it's a point about humans in general.
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Re: [dride] Why?
After he flew out over the talus he was probably about as high above the ground as he would have been if he would have done it off of a respectably large antenna.

Apparently this is the lesson to be learned:
http://www.watchthybridle.com/.../03/cutaway-handles/

(And if you're gonna take issue with Andy's choice of risks, you should probably be focusing on this: https://www.facebook.com/...videos/880001797490/ Cool)
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Re: [dride] Why?
Andy's a man of his word!
"What I've got here, is a little-bit-of-a-cut-away handle."
~Probably should have rigged an all-the-way-cut-a-way handle.
;)
Glad it all worked out, bro!
~J
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Re: [Mitchpee] Why?
Mitchpee wrote:
One thing I have noticed is the people that have put in a lot of work to ensure we can ride a tram, bus, or hike up to the top of an exit are not the people doing reckless things. They are the people sitting behind the curtains respecting the freedom they have created and timidly try to usher people to make the right decision. They know how hard it is to justify this sport to outsiders and the media. How hard it is to sit there in front of the superintendent of a National Park and plead your case after driving 6 hours, only to be given some illogical explanation that confirms their own bias within. To consistently have people not return your calls, emails, and to outright lie about promised actions. You don't see the Swiss BASE guys landing on the road at Lauterbrunnen or pulling low over power lines. You don't see the Norwegians of Lysboten doing things that jeopardize their own land. These things build a deep sense of appreciation for the little places we do have. Does anyone feel that sense of sacrifice these people have made when they go to Lauterbrunnen? How about Brento?Norway?

So True...., the people who have worked the hardest to ensure that we have access to legal BASE jumping are the ones that are the least likely to jeopardize this by idiotic, self promoting antics.

Mitchpee has put in an incredible effort to try to persuade the NPS in the USA to see reason and open up our National Parks to BASE.

Mikki and the Swiss crew in the Swiss Valley, Stein SBK at Lysboten, Marta of Vertigo in Moab,... so many more,... So much hard work to keep prime BASE objects open,... and so much disrespect from the "Johnny come lately, You tube generation "

We are doomed to run out of playgrounds with the present mentality of the now, mainstream masses in the sport,...Burn! Burn! Burn it all down,...who gives a fuck? Too bad when there is nowhere left to play.

Thanks Mitch, much respect,...

Regards, B.
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Re: [shveddy] Why?
shveddy wrote:
After he flew out over the talus he was probably about as high above the ground as he would have been if he would have done it off of a respectably large antenna.

Apparently this is the lesson to be learned:
http://www.watchthybridle.com/.../03/cutaway-handles/

(And if you're gonna take issue with Andy's choice of risks,you should probably be focusing on this: https://www.facebook.com/...videos/880001797490/ Cool)

Ha Ha! as I'm enjoying taking a longwinded post in support of Mitchpee's views, we see two posts centering around Sketchy Andy's epic cutaway experience?

I love you Andy, I truly do,.... but I am always in awe of how you manage to survive in the face of your lack of knowledge of the risks you take! I'm looking forward to getting back to Moab and catching up with you over a few brews at Eddie's,... please try to stay alive until next November,..

Regards, B.
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Re: [dride] Why?
I have done a dozen or so cutaway BASE jumps. My approach is more conservative (imo) than what I see being done by others.

I do not like cutaway systems on BASE rigs. I have 4 rigs, and only one of them has a permanent cutaway system. It has this because it was my friends rig that I inherited. I can get into my position on this but it's pretty simple, a "wings fall off" button does not exist on any other flying machine in the world. Why put one on a flying machine that is intentionally simple and lightweight?

My slider down rig and dedicated "cutaway" rig has sewn in risers that I use on all BASE jumps that I am not doing an intentional cutaway on. The cutaway system in this rig has metal cutaway cable housings from the handle to the rings like a skydive rig, and the cutaway handle is reinforced. (the cutaway cable runs through the loop of the handle and through a properly set nico sleeve, unlike normal BASE handles that are just a sewn loop of flat weave with the cable sleeved to one side).
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Re: [dride] Why?
 
https://youtu.be/eLkE0gSejoA

coz cutaways are fun as fuck the most fun i ever had skydiving was when i had a malfunction lol

and i wouldnt use base jumping cutaway system for cutaways I've used skydiving gear with everything cut off it then put base rig over the top..also im going to modify a base rig for speedwing/paraglider cutaway
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Re: [Calvin19] Why?
Calvin19 wrote:
I have done a dozen or so cutaway BASE jumps. a "wings fall off" button does not exist on any other flying machine in the world. Why put one on a flying machine that is intentionally simple and lightweight.

The three ring cutaway on single canopy BASE containers has a number of very practical purposes, but the main one was in the old days it was considered a cheaper option to jettison the main if Smokey had his grubby little paws on it than to face the NPS's Kangaroo court, or something similar.
Having witnessed a couple of very near drownings here in the chilly Fjords of Norway I would prefer to have the option to cutaway my canopy, and as you know Calvin, after a friend of ours landed in the white water of the Black Canyon he wouldn't be alive today without having managed to cutaway his canopy.
My dozen BASE cutaways were done on a two canopy sorcerer system and were a lot of fun, but as we teach in basic skydiving, if you have a good canopy over your head why get rid of it?

Regards, B.
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Re: [StealthyB] Why?
I note that this thread hasn't attracted many opinions? I would be interested to hear Pro's and Con's regarding three ring cutaway systems on single canopy BASE containers? My understanding of the logic to go to sewn in/non cut away systems was as a weight saving factor? Someone please enlighten me on why we should find a three ring releasable system undesirable in a BASE system? Personally I favor it. But I am very curious to hear reasons not to incorporate it into a BASE rig, Thanks,..
Opinions Please ?

Thanks for your input,

Regards, B.
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Re: [dride] Why?
i like and jump both. for me it's just a matter of choosing the right tool for the job. pros and cons.
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Connecting Lines to Harness
I own 4 rigs: 2 with 3 rings, 2 with integrated risers.
I prefer the latter, not for weight, but because of the
simplicity, reliability, comfort, just one less variable.
I also use Slinks, always have a hook knife, and have
practiced cutting through a Slink under load.

However, I agree there are few times when being
able to jettison a canopy in an instant is beneficial.
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Re: [Mitchpee] Why?
Solid post.