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I am wondering (just for my own info) as to which of the well known exit points in the death valley has claimed the most lives and possibly why?

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To re-iterate dadsy's point, it's usually "pilot's error", and.. most likely not "exit's error".

Having said that, different exit-points attract different jumpers - and if you have to hike for almost an hour, it's probably not as cool as the one you can get to within five minutes.

Going off what I have seen and a vague recollection of old incident reports it would have to be High Nose?? The ramp also gets a few people doesn't it?

I think the ramp + WS seems to be the most efficient of the killer exit points, at least in recent history.

http://www.blincmagazine.com/.../Fatality_Statistics

8x Just 'Lauterbrunnen'
7x High Nose
5x Via Ferrata
4x High Ultimate
4x La Mousse
3x Yellow Ocean
1x Dumpster, Flower box, Low Ultimate, Meiringen, Nose 1, Nose 3, Ultimate, Staubbach

Edit: Checked the description of the 8 that said just Lauterbrunnen, 4 had no exit mentioned, 1x Yellow Ocean, 1x Staubbach and 2x 'The Nose'.

You would do better with asking about the deadliest mindset.
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YouthInChernobyl two good questions

Here are the data sources:
SBA
BFL
Stats

Arvoitus thanks for doing your analysis

ITW may well have the 'crown' worldwide now :( 14

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Please note, the ratio of jumps to fatalities
would be the most valuable data but this
number can only be estimated at best.

My thoughts are that the EGO is the biggest killer and not any place on earth.

High Ultimate is pretty fucking sketchy!!!

There is a commonly accepted notion that even experienced, well-rounded pilots die, and they die just because of the nature of the beast and not necessarily because of taking on something they could not chew. In other words, there is too many factors to consider and we don't know what we don't know. The reasoning based on that is that some exit points have more factors to consider. Hence the question.

Not at Kjerag, I was teaching there for 3 seasons.. and we kept every jump ever made down to the T...

Stein kept stats from since the very first jump..

get on http://stavangerbase.com/about-us/statistics/


here you can actually see what dwain Weston was going on about all those years ago.... If you don't know what I am refering to with DW maybe do some research into one of the best minds ever

Mindset has nothing to do with experience...
All exits in Lauterbrunnen are deadly if you fuck up the jump. The only exit where you can jump without hitting the wall before you impact is yellow ocean and we even there people go in. Nowadays more people die at the Stechelbert Exits because they are jumped more.
The die on exits statistics are more or less in line with the number of jumps from the exits.

Having a tension knot spiraling into the cliff you just jumped from is dying because of the "nature of the beast". Impacting with nothing out because of a miscalculation in flight path/ability is not a nature of the beast and is a complete factor of human error that is absolutely preventable.

We shouldn't do the disservice to our friends that have helped progress this sport by writing off their deaths as a just "shit happens" thing. I think that's a very poor mentality if we someday want to make this sport safer. Instead we should analyze, as they did a brilliant job with the tragic triple fatality in Switzerland, and try to come up with ways to avoid these instances in future jumps.

Patto, I appreciate the figures, thanks.
11 dead / 46057 jumps = 0.0002388
or survival rate there is over 99.9%


TF has had 6 deaths from BASE right?
(4 from the span and 2 from the cliffs)

Tom, Miles, Jimmy, et al. want to give
a guess at the denominator? (Total Jumps)

Remember kids, you have the power
to affect your odds on every jump

Wingsuits have now opened up objects that were previously unthinkable for safely jumping - objects like pyramids.

Really? Maybe for some people it does not. But for most I am sure it does as people hopefully get more humble as they delve into an activity and realize that they have much to learn. It's called humility and I know it's not in fashion today. But I believe that a close call or an injury could and does change one's mentality. Fear and pain are the greatest motivators to change. So to say that experience and mentality does not affect each other is to be blind to own self-awareness...

Wow, so in 2012 in Kjerag the fatality rate was ~0.04%. This does make that particular place look safe(ish)?

I´d like to think statistics more in the jumps per fatality -ratio which in Kjerag over time seems to be around 1:4000 (so every 4k jumps one fatality occurs). This as far as my memory serves me right is in line with the stats we were approximating in the SBA where we had about 15-20k jumps annually in LB and about 4-5 fatalities. Also to be noted about the statistics in LB is that based on the landing cards sold, we have estimated that roughly 500 jumpers visit the valley annually. Given the 4-5 fatalities / year, that counts in as 1% mortality among the jumper population visiting LB. So statistically speaking, if 100 jumpers go to LB, one of them leaves the valley in an ash urn.

8 from bridge and 2 from the cliff down the road..

Thats from what i see mate

in kjerag..

1 guy had a pull up cord tangle with pc...

2 others had no base experience whatsoever (i believe) went and jumped on own... so you could bring that figure down and rate up..

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edited after reading a bit more... there was anton the Russian doing aerials from the diving board I remember that jump well so that's another fatality there all in the stats section on the Stavanger base website

I think the correct question would be which one is the most unforgiving.

Interesting that in the last 10 years there have been 3 fatalities in 25,704 jumps - 1 in 10,000. Thanks for keeping the stats so well