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how to safely pack a 180 opening
Anybody here has ideas or even expirience how to safely pack a 180 opening? What would be the safest way to have a nice 180 but no other problems?

Edit: I used search and found this, nevermind
http://www.basejumper.com/forum/BASE_Jumping_C1/BASE_Technical_F3/How_to_pack_180_P2970552/
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Re: [lesoucer] how to safely pack a 180 opening
maybe just not pack a 180? by messing with your packjob in that type of way you cant eliminate the possibility of having addition problems such as line twists. or go to a bridge that has a large arch and do a floater (exit facing the object) and practice avoidance techniques pretending that the object continues to the ground. make sure if you use this technique that you take a delay long enough to open after the steel of the bridge ends.
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Re: [lesoucer] how to safely pack a 180 opening
But what if you "pack" a 180 and you have a 180. Would that be an on heading?
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Re: [lesoucer] how to safely pack a 180 opening
A super easy way to practice off headings and almost guarantee a 180 (since packed 180's frequently don't open as a 180) is to setup for a rollover and twist the canopy below you 180 degrees, then jump quickly before it twists back.
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Re: [gauleyguide] how to safely pack a 180 opening
happened in one of the trials. Was an onheading but had 2 twists. Good practice i guess
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Re: [gahnananana] how to safely pack a 180 opening
gahnananana wrote:
by messing with your packjob in that type of way you cant eliminate the possibility of having addition problems such as line twists. or go to a bridge that has a large arch and do a floater

Part of practicing with a way that causes line twists means you actually GET PRACTICE getting out of the line twists. Assuming that your off heading isn't going to have line twists is idealistic. Doing a floater exit is going to be a much cleaner opening, making the correction easier and building a false sense of confidence (although the fact that you can turn around is certainly a good thing). Practicing with line twists means you can handle the more difficult correction, making you a safer jumper.

gharrop, you could also route the risers backwards over your shoulders, face towards the object, then back flip off. I've never done this and I would recommend talking to someone who has before trying it.
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Re: [idemallie] how to safely pack a 180 opening
its still a base jump man. im not sure how comfortable you are with base jumping but that sounds like a dumb idea. ive had line twists on an actual base jump and dealt with them fine, from having enough experience skydiving. but go find a safe object that no one has gone in on and decide if you want to introduce malfunction to the jump. chances are itll be hard to find that object.
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Packing your only parachute wrong . . .
I watched two FL jumpers doing this drill at the Perrine:
Each packed their own rig all the way till it was time to
put the pack job in the tray, then one took a walk and
the other finished the job with a flip added for surprise.
Then they both jumped, knowing they would have a
full 180 but not knowing which direction it would turn.

Please note two things:

1. I have jumped 62 objects and only 2 of them would I
ever consider taking a rig that was not packed correctly.

2. I have never packed an off-heading, on purpose Blush

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Re: [GreenMachine] Packing your only parachute wrong . . .
I wouldn't do it off anything besides the bridge in Idaho. This obviously complicates things with travel and long term training.

Another drill that gets at the same concept is to kick up into line twists on a skydive and then practice steering in them.
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Re: [idemallie] Packing your only parachute wrong . . .
If you actually run and jump away from the cliff it doesn't matter if you have offheadings :) This was one of my first practices.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXkTmeR01KU
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Re: [gahnananana] how to safely pack a 180 opening
cuz doing dumb shit is fun? Tongue

not a 180... but on the same road...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6UKNI3Iocg
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Re: [lesoucer] how to safely pack a 180 opening
Here is something that might help:

Do a yaw-axis rotation on exit. Just raise one foot, let go of the handles and push as hard as you can with the other, try not to compensate anything. You can also add a sort of twisting motion in the direction of the raised foot on exit. Take a medium 1,5 - 2 second delay and just before pitching, drop your shoulder in any direction, hard. And pitch. Don't forget to set shallow brake settings, and do not grab anything like risers or toggles on opening.
Trust me, you WILLBlush get linetwists with offheading if you do this, and it will be a lot more similar to a real life exit fuckup, rather than packing anything.

P.S. You don't need to kick into linetwists on a skydive. Just give yourself a good spin and pitchWink
But don't pack an intentional linetwist by rotating your bag, it's unsafe for a number of reasons.
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Re: [REDAKTOR] how to safely pack a 180 opening
In reply to:
But don't pack an intentional linetwist by rotating your bag, it's unsafe for a number of reasons.

If applicable to twistign my packjob on a base rig like in the linked video, please list these reasons.
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Re: [GreenMachine] Packing your only parachute wrong . . .
In reply to:
I watched two FL jumpers doing this drill at the Perrine:
Each packed their own rig all the way till it was time to
put the pack job in the tray, then one took a walk and
the other finished the job with a flip added for surprise.
Then they both jumped, knowing they would have a
full 180 but not knowing which direction it would turn.

sounds like a fun game
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Re: [lesoucer] how to safely pack a 180 opening
lesoucer wrote:
In reply to:
But don't pack an intentional linetwist by rotating your bag, it's unsafe for a number of reasons.

If applicable to twistign my packjob on a base rig like in the linked video, please list these reasons.
They're not applicable to a base rig. Just to a skydive.
I don't like the idea of a 180 pack on a base rig mostly because there is a chance that you'll screw it up and that will cause more problems than just 180. Just 2 cents.
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Re: [idemallie] Packing your only parachute wrong . . .
ive had a 180 with line twists at the perrine doing a tard over. it was the perrine during the day with a boat in the river and it was still spicy. i kicked them out and stuck it between boulders on the path. its a safer object, but still a base jump mang. Wink
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Re: [gahnananana] Packing your only parachute wrong . . .
gahnananana wrote:
ive had a 180 with line twists at the perrine doing a tard over. it was the perrine during the day with a boat in the river and it was still spicy. i kicked them out and stuck it between boulders on the path. its a safer object, but still a base jump mang. Wink

Yeah you really sucked at that jump
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Re: [idemallie] how to safely pack a 180 opening
In reply to:
you could also route the risers backwards over your shoulders, face towards the object, then back flip off. I've never done this and I would recommend talking to someone who has before trying it.

Like this? :)
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Re: [gharrop] how to safely pack a 180 opening
gharrop wrote:
In reply to:
you could also route the risers backwards over your shoulders, face towards the object, then back flip off. I've never done this and I would recommend talking to someone who has before trying it.

Like this? :)
That didn't go too well, did it? Laugh
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Re: [gharrop] how to safely pack a 180 opening
gharrop wrote:
In reply to:
you could also route the risers backwards over your shoulders, face towards the object, then back flip off. I've never done this and I would recommend talking to someone who has before trying it.

Like this? :)

precisely
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Re: [REDAKTOR] how to safely pack a 180 opening
Eh, gave myself a little bit of a stepthrough on the second one but it worked out fine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS_xd-w0s6M
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Re: [gharrop] how to safely pack a 180 opening
gharrop wrote:
Eh, gave myself a little bit of a stepthrough on the second one but it worked out fine. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS_xd-w0s6M
So that loose line is no big deal?Smile
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Re: [gharrop] how to safely pack a 180 opening
gharrop wrote:
A super easy way to practice off headings and almost guarantee a 180 (since packed 180's frequently don't open as a 180) is to setup for a rollover and twist the canopy below you 180 degrees, then jump quickly before it twists back.

Used to do this as well as (kinda) the opposite.

Sashimi roll is twisting the canopy one full 360 then doing a rollover and flipping correctly (It's hard, and I do that stuff a lot) to remove the twists before inflation. It is VERY fun and very challenging. Probably only good for idiots and people with extensive diving and BASE experience. As far as i know no one else does this, I would like to know to share ideas if they do. Tongue
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Re: [gharrop] how to safely pack a 180 opening
In reply to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vS_xd-w0s6M

maybe i should try this with my 9 years old skywalk tequila

Edit: seriously, thanks for the entertaiment in this tread. I did some practise now that worked but i am to scared after the line twists to mess with my packjob again. Next i will figure out what can go wrong on different floaters.