Basejumper.com - archive

I've just been running random thoughts through my mind - the question is - how much would you be willing to pay for a jump ticket for an elevator provided ride to the top of an object such as this?

Let's say the objects height is approximately 480', in the middle of the country, maybe near St. Louis or something, and you could jump any downwind leg.

http://www.internationalchimney.com/...mg/casestudy/127.jpg

Id pay 100 bucks for an all day pass.

Will there be load organizers? Mandatory AAD's? How many jumps until I can wear a Gopro?

thats the kind of attitude that is not helping. Just go back to the DZ

Uhhh...I think that was the point. . He was being sarcastic I believe. .a base park takes away some of the planning and ninja out of a jump.

Zero! I'd jump it BASE style, after you closed and went home to go to bed.

Twin Falls? Bridge Day? Kjerag Heliboogie? Lauterbrunnen? Not sure how much ninja and planning is required at these places.

This would be another available object to teach students. Another place to work on that double gainer. An object that you could turn jumps almost as quickly as you could pack...

After I go home I would activate my sharks with freakin laser beams on their heads who would be swimming in a kiddie pool at the top!

Take that Mr. Powers!

Yeah but they each have their own thing. . Twin is free, Bridge Day is more about the party than the jumps. . I'm not against it, hell, I'll come jump it!

I would second the $100 for an all day pass. I would view it similar to the other legal objects you mentioned with the idea of a nice training spot or just a place to go and huck all day with some friends.

Lauterbrunnen require ninja skills to avoid other jumpers, so you can jump at a quiet exit point without having to give high five to 20 people !

I'd jump from just below the top.

A possible alternative to constructing a tower would be a teathered hot air balloon. It may not technically be a BASE jump, but you could certainly get it up to the same altitude and if it's tethered it's not technically an aircraft.

I'm sure it would be cheaper as well.

I think there would be A TON of jumpers (both experienced and newbies) lining up! I think either way would be best, offer a day pass or pay by load.

I'm somewhat experienced in HABs, tethering, FAA, FAR, and meteorology.

it won't happen.


And if by some miracle you figured it out, it would be WAY more expensive than a private base park tower.

Agreed. Plus the turn around time for loads would be impractical

PEOPLE will pay whatever you need to charge in order to run a profitable business. Most people will surely bitch about how much they are paying but I'm pretty sure that if you build it they will come.

-
Don't forget . Ban the use of Velcro Rigs Also at this object .
.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3Ufef-TuRM&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Don't be so sure it won't happen. Happened last nov. Doing it again this nov.
700' loads of 4-5
10 min turn around +-

Thats just common sense. Everybody knows that they're Black Death.

Is anyone thinking what I'm thinking? Those towers in the example picture are exactly 250 feet tall... not really gainer height. More like go and throw.

Are you saying you'd build some that are 480' tall???

And I think an elevator is important to your charging people money...

Yes, that's exactly what I'm saying.

Of course tethered jumping is doable, you, me and many others have done it. But for a constant commercial BASE park it's not a good business model. Even if you ignore FARs. Once a year in the ideal conditions needed for tethering hardly compares to a bad ass tower with an elevator that you can jump in any weather other than 100mph winds or lighting. It's not good for a balloon to tether it, but if the owners would buy end-of-life envelopes it might be worth it.

The way to go is a free standing 400'+ tower. I would pay $5-10 for a ride to 450' on a cool tower.

It would be cool to have the capability to tether a 150-250k cubic foot HAB to 2000' on good weather days at the park.

can you add a 0 to the poll choices?

Really???? And what about those people that went in with PC in tow on pin rigs.....

...and choppers.

I like the humour, sarcasm and wit in this post.

I'd pay $100 for an all day pass.

If I would happen to be around the area, I would easily pay 100 bucks for a day pass but I would not take the effort to travel all the way just for this park. If it would be near my home (say hour or two hours of drive) I would even get a year pass for 500 bucks. I think the key of making profitable business though is to make the object good for running FJC´s because

1) students are more keen to travel as FJC´s off legal objects are still quite rare
2) you can easily charge 1000+ bucks for an FJC
3) there is HUGE amount of new people itching to get into BASE because of it´s rad ´n stuff
4) you can sell all kinds of extra services to FJC like packing, video, stills package etc

I think the money you would get from experienced jumpers would be just a bonus.

50 bucks for a 2 day pass or 10 bucks a ticket would be cool,and also ironworking is my day job,so i can help you build it for a discount on jump tickets.

250ft is plenty of height for people who know how to throw gainers. You should probably invest in coaching.

I'm sure people have looked into the cost for this. I'd be curious for the specific instances:

~150' guyed
~300' guyed
220-350' FS

I'm wondering about the cost for having one for just personal/free use. If it's in the middle of an open field and you only jump with proper wind direction/speed, you could do guyed one, which would be much cheaper. My brother owns a small computer store and built a little ~110' guyed A. I don't think something static-lineable or even low FF (~210/220) would be that much.

You could probably get around a lot of legal stuff by putting a small fence with no trespassing signs, not charge anyone, and "say" that it's not allowed.

I asked my brother. He has a ~<150' super skinny freestander. It was $5500 used. The concrete pad to mount it was $2500 and renting a crane to set it up was ~$500. I bet you could do 200-300' guyed and it not be too expensive. You'd just need to get it used and have a lot of experienced help to set it up. It'd definitely need a couch and no-railing top platform. Maybe a mini-fridge.


EDITED to add a website for buying used towers...seems like most of the cost is saved if you buy used. There seem to be a fair number of used towers out there.

http://towerdirect.net/...er-stainless-7-face/
http://towerdirect.net/...0-guyed-pirod-tower/
http://towerdirect.net/...lf-supporting-tower/

Not what I meant. The object was suggested as a place where FJCs would be happening... Not exactly the right height for a learning environment is all.

I would pay $10 to ride your elevator to the top. I'd pay $20 if you let me climb it.

teresa

I've actually been in contact with a guy who was looking into buying a tower this year for an "extreme sorts base show" or something. I don't know, I didn't take him too seriously.

The price isn't even that unreasonable for taller guyed towers. 30 grand or so for a used 700', but the transportation was going to be another 30 grand, and building the pad and anchors and setup pushed it way over budget (which was 150K).

In 2002 ATT sold a lot of those longline towers, including the building and sometimes generators for like 20-30 grand. We really missed the boat on that one.

I looked into obtaining a tower from ATT back then.... never got a response from numerous inquiries. Many were sold in bulk at the time to other telecommunications companies.

You are correct about taller towers not being too terribly expensive to buy used and about the other costs of erecting said tower to be the real money suck.

Some day perhaps...

It's got to be cheaper than getting a DZ up and running.

I'd think that if you had one or two FJC operations and maybe a tandemBASE option you could create a profitable business.