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Pussied Out Of My First A!
Here's a good one for y'all.

Went to go jump a local 'A' with one of my friends last night, him being an experienced jumper having jumped said object numerous times before.

It was well passed sunset when we got to the base, so after checking for heat ( which there was none because it's in the middle of nowhere) we started the climb. it's a 1000 footer but the main exit point is 500ft.

Normally, when the wind is out of the N, the S side landing area is perfect, only limited somewhat by the guyed wires. However 1/2 ways up to our 1/2 way point, the winds did a 180. By this time it was borderline full on dark. As we near the exit, my accomplice points out that there is a high tension powerline and perpendicular running barbed wire fences in the alternate LZ. Great.Unsure I tired to get good visualization but couldn't.

Having never jumped an A before, new velcro on my container, slightly baffed out P/C, and having just assembled my container myself without any second opinion. ( Although I still am quite confident on the ground that it's connected properly) and with the change in LZ and a pile of sand in my Vajayjay, I opted for the climb of shame.

At least I beat the other guy down even though he hucked Cool

So there you have it, the story of the time I became a little bitch!

Let the trolling commence!
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Re: [kiss_the_sky] Pussied Out Of My First A!
Congrats on staying safe :D

Sounds like a good way to get to jump again tomorrow...
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Re: [kiss_the_sky] Pussied Out Of My First A!
You are alive aren't you? Safest Base jump you'll ever make.. If youre not feeling it, come back another day.
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Re: [kiss_the_sky] Pussied Out Of My First A!
Good Man, no shame in that.
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Re: [kiss_the_sky] Pussied Out Of My First A!
Good judgement. And thanks for posting. This is the side of BASE you can't see on YouTube. But it's essential.

It would be rad to flood YouTube with all of our b-roll of climbing down or looking at weatherspark.com for the 15th time, before deciding it's not going to happen tonight. We could put some Nickelback or that "Sail" song in the background so it would still have an edge to it.

~ Chris
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Re: [kiss_the_sky] Pussied Out Of My First A!
In reply to:
slightly baffed out P/C

I don't know what this means, but it sounds sketch
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Re: [kiss_the_sky] Pussied Out Of My First A!
Thanks for sharing your experience; this is a great post. Good decisions like that will keep you kissing the sky and not the ground.

Knowing when NOT to jump is an important and often overlooked/underappreciated part of becoming a successful BASE jumper. Ah yes, I remember my first walk-down like it was yesterday. I was cutting my teeth with the Atlanta base crew back in the mid-to late 2000s, and like most brand new jumpers was super horney for jumps. Myself and another very new jumper went to jump a 400ish foot crane downtown that we had jumped the week earlier with our then mentor, who I’ll call BG. We were a little concerned about the wind once we got there but we figured, why not go up there and just see how it looks. So we hopped the fence, climbed the stairs, and made our way to the access point to the crane, a small catwalk that extended from the under-construction building to the stick about 100’ below the cab. From here surveyed the winds the best we could but they were no better; too strong, gusty, and blowing in a poor direction to fly and land in the primary landing area, an adjacent parking lot. We figured lets climb up to the cab and check it out because hell, there’s a wind meter up there, maybe we could even turn the thing on and move the boom over a better spot. Once we got in the cab we each took turns trying to convince the other why it was OK to jump or lay out some scenario of how we could successfully jump in the obviously garbage winds, “maybe if we open low and do a quick 180 we can land in that small spot between the giant pit and the pile of re-bar…” We each pointed out the obvious flaws in the other’s plan just to pitch an equally ridiculous alternative. It went on like this for over an hour as we waited for the conditions to improve. Then we started calling all the more experienced BASE jumpers we knew, none of whom had wanted to come out with us tonight for some odd reason, to get there opinion on the conditions and what our course of action should be. I realize now that we were not seeking guidance, we were seeking permission. We wanted someone with more experience to give us the green light, to tell us it was OK to jump, just go for it. We wanted to take the responsibility for that decision off our own shoulders. To their credit, none did.

Long story not as long, we eventually climbed down, walked down, hopped the fence again, and drove home. It was my first experience climbing down, and I was too young and too dumb to recognize the significance of it or appreciate it at the time, but I realized later how important it was in my development as jumper. Someone once told me, there are old BASE jumpers and there are bold BASE jumpers, but there are no old, bold BASE jumpers (admittedly, this point could be debated in another post). I’m working now on becoming an old BASE jumper, and I’m finding that suits me just fine. As it allows me to enjoy the sport and everything else life has to offer, hopefully for a long time. So remember, each time you jump when you shouldn’t and get away with something stupid or each time you climb down when conditions are dangerous, it becomes easier to do that thing next time… so make sure you’re reinforcing the behavior that will help you become an old BASE jumper. Just my humble opinion.
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Re: [seekfun] Pussied Out Of My First A!
seekfun wrote:
Good judgement. And thanks for posting. This is the side of BASE you can't see on YouTube. But it's essential.

It would be rad to flood YouTube with all of our b-roll of climbing down or looking at weatherspark.com for the 15th time, before deciding it's not going to happen tonight. We could put some Nickelback or that "Sail" song in the background so it would still have an edge to it.

~ Chris

Great idea! Here are the original lyrics.

Here are the new lyrics:

BAIL!

Bail!

This is how I stay alive
‘Cause I don’t really want to die
I blame it on my good judgment baby

This is why the devil cries
Not today my own demise
Blame it on my good judgment baby

Bail!
Bail!
Bail!
Bail!
Bail!

So I'm gonna back off now
Climb on down without a bow (a bow)
Blame it on my good judgment baby

Maybe I'm a different breed
Maybe I'm just listening
So blame it on my good judgment baby

Bail!
Bail!
Bail!
Bail!
Bail!

La la la la la
La la la la la oh!
La la la la la,
La la la la la oh!
La la la la la,
La la la la la,

Bail!
Bail!
Bail!
Bail!
Bail!

Bail with me into the dark
Bail!
Bail with me from this death lark
Bail!
Bail with me don't make a mark
Bail!
Bail with me
Bail!

© Copyright 2014 by Robin Heid. Permission granted for any reuse with attribution.

Cool
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Re: [robinheid] Pussied Out Of My First A!
I love it!
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Re: [robinheid] Pussied Out Of My First A!
Way more thought went into this than the original lyrics. Well played!
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Re: [kiss_the_sky] Pussied Out Of My First A!
Respect mate.

Learning your options is part of the experience.

Kuddos for your awareness.

Next time you have experience.

Smile
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Re: [kiss_the_sky] Pussied Out Of My First A!
I've bailed in perfect conditions when I wasn't feeling it, sounds like you did the right thing.
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Re: [kiss_the_sky] Pussied Out Of My First A!
kiss_the_sky wrote:
Here's a good one for y'all...

...So there you have it, the story of the time I became a little bitch!

Let the trolling commence!

Don't put yourself down. You are alive, you are man enough to not jump. There is more than one dead jumper that maybe should have maned up and walked away.

I have a problem with your "I'm a pussy" attitude. I read it as you got scared, got a case of gear fear and climbed down.

An eager young cock beater jacked up on ego might read your post and think that he is not quite the pussy you are and go jump when he should have walked away.

You are supposed to be a Type A person, so man the fuck up and say "Hey, had a nice climb the other night, I wasn't ready, so I maned up and climbed down." "Anybody got any shit they wanna talk? I'll eat your fucking throat out!" AND for God's sake, no "lol's"
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Re: [kiss_the_sky] Pussied Out Of My First A!
sounds like you made the right call, nice job. don't look at it as shame.

look at it another way: it is far more normal than you may realize now.

i log my antenna jumps, but not my downclimbs. so i can't prove it, but i'm pretty sure, i have more of the latter than the former.

downclimbing is a normal part of the sport.
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Re: [kiss_the_sky] Pussied Out Of My First A!
Atta' boy!! One of my favorite posts on this site.
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Re: [kiss_the_sky] Pussied Out Of My First A!
I've climbed/walked down a few times, no shame in my game at all !
A couple of people I regarded as mates even made fun of the fact, needless to say I don't jump with them anymore... :)
As a very wise man once told me.... 'It's not always the right decsion to walk away but it's NEVER the wrong one....'

Good on ya mate!

Go hard, stay safe...
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Re: [kiss_the_sky] Pussied Out Of My First A!
Good call on the climb down, but I've gotta know why you even chose to climb if you were unsure of your gear? Conditions change all the time, and that's something you deal with while you're up there, but not being prepared on the ground is just stupid.
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Re: [nakeddave] Pussied Out Of My First A!
nakeddave wrote:
Good call on the climb down, but I've gotta know why you even chose to climb if you were unsure of your gear? Conditions change all the time, and that's something you deal with while you're up there, but not being prepared on the ground is just stupid.

i checked my gear when i re-assembled it and i knew it was fine, hauled it out later with an experienced jumper and it was still fine, i guess at the time my mind was generating multiple justifications for not jumping. The conditions were not the issue as my friend jumped and actually had a good one. But like i mentioned earlier I think my biggest concern was the obstacles and their visibility ( or lack there of) in the alternate LZ.
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Re: [kiss_the_sky] Pussied Out Of My First A!
I dont like that you call it "pussing out". I had 60 A climbs for my 1st 20 A jumps. I mapped the headings of the LZ and guy wires after i figgered out that climbing A's suck....I think I have maybe 60 A's
Not jumping is always the correct decision. Your post scares me in the prioritization. " slightly baffed out P/C"?. that is way bad! and rigging is always take the number 2 spot on my list. Number 1 is always "do I decide to attempt a jump". I dont need to worry about my gear.

You stating that you were unsure about the PC airwothyness means to me that you have no clue about symmetricall calibration of yo PC. The gamble should start with approach. Not if your PC is baffed out. I would never approach a jump if I didnt know if my PC was adequate. Get your rigging hat on.
Sketchy jump, sketchy rigging? That would be -2. Peer pressure will kill you more precisely. IMHO, you should never follow a more experienced jumper. only a less exp jumper. Every high exp BASEr will tell you that backing down from jumping is always the correct thing to do. I dont think that FJCs cover the abort. All aircraft pilots know this. how to abort.
Standing on a sketchy or nonsketchy being unsure of your PC is no brainer. dont approach. get your rigging on.
Take care,
Space
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Re: [kiss_the_sky] Pussied Out Of My First A!
you manned out.
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Re: [kiss_the_sky] Pussied Out Of My First A!
Good move! Worst hazard on a guy'd A is wind shift just above opening altitude. Say wind is 30 to the right of the left wire and just before opening it goes to 40 left. You are already close to the left wire and now going over. Strong crosswinds are a problem. Don't ever worry about super high winds on a tower, even 50 mph so long as it bisects the wires and you have a good landing area with a reasonable ground wind. Safest jump you an make. Do a backwards floater exit for fun since you can't hit the tower in a 50 mph wind. You did good to avoid a crosswind if it was too strong and you'll live to jump another day..
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Re: [kiss_the_sky] Pussied Out Of My First A!
kiss_the_sky wrote:

So there you have it, the story of the time I became a little bitch!

If that makes you a bitch I am a Thai Lady Boy. I've hiked or walked down many times. No shame in it plus you do not have to re-pack!
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Trust me...Y'all were thinking it.