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With the increasing popularity of Heli BASE terrain flying, we must come to analyze some basic truths about what we are doing.

Just because your exiting a helicopter doesn't mean basics go out the window. Airspeed inverse to altitude over your target terrain and the slope of that terrain should be the only thing going through your head. I've seen way to many (and been part of) heli jumps where the point man wants to glide flat to the beginning of the terrain (therefore beginning there line flying in the top end of there power band). It is my opinion that a good percentage of pilots are nervous flying there suits at extreme steep angles of attack and are unwilling to exit the chopper steeper and closer to the terrain they are trying to fly. This is shooting yourself in the foot...why exit far away when you can get out on top of the terrain, build tons of energy, and enter your line with tons of speed?

i agree this is a very small group of people doing these things, but it will only increase with time. These basics need to be aired out and discussed.

Fire away...

Jumping from an aircraft is skydiving mate.

thanks for that clarification bro...

What techniques are you using to fly your suit at extreme steep angles of attack ? Also, what suits are you flying ?

the most important lesson learned in the 1st in history of BASE 3x fatality ever is that it didnt fucking had to be 3x!! if the aircraft drops X jumpers and all of them go in the same crater smth is wrong with their mentality.. use your own brain ppl! u had freaking FIFTY SECONDS to INDEPENDENTLY evaluate the situation and pull at reasonable altitude.. yet u followed the rabbit into the same hole like lemmings....
if it was an otter load and 22 lemmings followed the Leader into the same crater r u going to be discussing steep angles?!

let this be the 1st and the last one.
NO MORE THAN ONE FATALITY PER LOAD FUCKERS MMMKAY?!
use your own brain
feel the situation is not good from the start but the leader seems to know better? PULL!!! "rest in peace bro but i'm outta here"
BOOM! 3x reduction in fatality rate, guaranteed

'nuff said

seeya:
Flying at steep angles of attack to me has been about head and shoulder control. Honestly, Its something each pilot needs to figure out for themselves cause its mostly a feel thing. When you approach the suits tipping point minor movements result in massive effects. I think this is a very very under practiced form of flying. Last year at Eloy I was turning skydives in my Colugo into 40 second dives from 13500...other pilots (good friends of mine too) kept sayng things like "thats not wingsuit flying" or "theres no reason to go that steep". I beg to differ.

I currently fly an Aura, which I find to be the best suit out there that provides amazing glide performace, but also solid preasurrization and control/agility at steep angles of attack and carving turns. I have no problem flying any line any other suit can fly, and it gets started faster than anything else out there.

Good stuff....thank you for your advice

+1
awesome advice and great wisdom

 

Because proxy flight almost never involves buildings, antennae or spans, it should be called.... E-flying.

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or Heli-E, Hel-E, E-Heli, Heli-E flying, etc.

Not true...some have been playing with B's and S's lately

Because proxy flight almost never involves buildings, antennae or spans, it should be called.... E-flying.

You were saying...?


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I almost said the same thing but then I knew robin would do exactly what he did.

How ''great'' post indeed!
Did you maybe heard that NEVER EVER any one died in the smart way!
Since you think those guys were morons and as such did not have the right to make mistake , maybe you will show better one day.
Maybe you'll be first to manage to fly free in the smart way!
Such inappropriate comment I haven't seen for long time even here on this forum.
This shows a lot what BASE community really have.
Cheers

Silly boys... the number of BS heli jumps is a rounding error compared to the number of E-flights... which of course effectively defines... "almost never."

Maybe the best thing to do is just call it mountain flying and be done with the BS discussions.


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You'll be back

Seriously, who cares what you call it?

Let's not bog down a potentially good discussion about important techniques (which lots of people seem to want to learn from scratch again) with a silly argument about semantics.

Proximity flight is _the_ new way to die.

More than half the students I see here are intent on getting to proximity flight as soon as possible.

There are a handful of people who are actually figuring things out.

When those people show up and offer good information, wouldn't it make more sense to listen and discuss, rather than derail the discussion with a pointless discussion of semantics?

I learnt with motor bikes that we are not all born equal and with the best wishes in the world some of us (myself included) are not capable of the necessary co ordination that is required to mentally manage our bodies under such precise limits as terrain flying seems to demand.
I think that some people out there should just take a moment to re evaluate themselves and ask some very basic questions about themselves before embarking on or even deciding that they are going to become part of some thing that is way beyond their physical/mental capabilities. Not easy and perhaps too great a reality check for the average Go Pro consumer? Don't want to offend any "wanna bees" out there or indeed any seasoned veterans but littering the hill sides with your remains ain't looking good for the future.

Well, true.
I´m not a Proxy flyer at all so I´m outta here and excuse myself that I wanted to be too smart and apologize in case I stepped on somebody´s toes somehow.

Martin

If you practice proxy by using a nice puffy you quickly find out how easy it is to overestimate your reach....just happens to be nice and forgiving except it fogs up the shot. This is how I learned I wasn't made for "real" proxy.

''Don't want to offend any "wanna bees" out there or indeed any seasoned veterans but littering the hill sides with your remains ain't looking good for the future.''

it no offence because we are biodegradable and thus do not cout as trash.

enjoy.

luka