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Re: [-Andrew-] How to pack 180
-Andrew- wrote:
https://vimeo.com/80732712
Nice video! Looks like great practice and a cool object!
Re: [-Andrew-] How to pack 180
I'd recommend pushing the twist all the way up the lines (so that it sits above the locking stow) before you stow the lines. My experience has been that canopies with the twist at the bottom of the lines more often "untwist" during extraction and fail to produce the desired off heading.
Re: [TomAiello] How to pack 180
Why an earth would you want to pack a 180. Obviously pactice, but aren't you setting yourself up for failure? I'm going to start practicing total mals, go hand-held with pc not through the eye correctly. Next you must flip to back, grab bridle, and perform a manual extraction. Now that's practice!!!!!! If you want to practice 180 just fuck your body position up in freefall, seems to work for everyone else.
All that added minipulation during packing just doesn't seem wise. Your are clearly highly experienced but if I tried that I'd end up locking my lines and streaming in, not really, but thats what worries me about dicking with my packjob that O so comforts me :) Say safe, thank you for the videos.
Re: [TomAiello] How to pack 180
TomAiello wrote:
I'd recommend pushing the twist all the way up the lines (so that it sits above the locking stow) before you stow the lines.
My experience has been that canopies with the twist at the bottom of the lines more often "untwist" during extraction and fail to produce the desired off heading.
Re: [halorob] How to pack 180
halorob wrote:
Why an earth would you want to pack a 180?
I've packed, jumped, supervised and taught enough 180's at this point that I'm very confident they won't turn into a crazy streaming total (or anything else too crazy).
Personally, I think that you shouldn't jump a solid, slider down object until (among other things) you've packed enough 180's from a nice bridge to have a high degree of confidence in your ability to correct them.
Taking a trip to Moab, for example, without having practiced object avoidance (which includes, but is not limited to, 180 correction) seems pretty foolish to me.
Failing to prepare is preparing to fail.
Re: [halorob] How to pack 180
halorob wrote:
Why an earth would you want to pack a 180. Obviously pactice, but aren't you setting yourself up for failure? I'm going to start practicing total mals, go hand-held with pc not through the eye correctly. Next you must flip to back, grab bridle, and perform a manual extraction. Now that's practice!!!!!!
If you want to practice 180 just fuck your body position up in freefall, seems to work for everyone else.
All that added minipulation during packing just doesn't seem wise. Your are clearly highly experienced but if I tried that I'd end up locking my lines and streaming in, not really, but thats what worries me about dicking with my packjob that O so comforts me :) Say safe, thank you for the videos.
Do you honestly think that a 180 twist in the lines is going to streamer you into the ground?
Re: [TomAiello] How to pack 180
TomAiello wrote:
halorob wrote:
Why an earth would you want to pack a 180?
I've packed, jumped, supervised and taught enough 180's at this point that I'm very confident they won't turn into a crazy streaming total (or anything else too crazy).
Personally, I think that you shouldn't jump a solid, slider down object until (among other things) you've packed enough 180's from a nice bridge to have a high degree of confidence in your ability to correct them.
Taking a trip to Moab, for example, without having practiced object avoidance (which includes, but is not limited to, 180 correction) seems pretty foolish to me.
Failing to prepare is preparing to fail.
you give extra credit for 180s on cliff faces right?
Re: [JBag] How to pack 180
JBag wrote:
you give extra credit for 180s on cliff faces right?
That's the pass/fail practical final exam.
Re: [Arvoitus] How to pack 180
Arvoitus wrote:
Do you honestly think that a 180 twist in the lines is going to streamer you into the ground?
To be fair, walking out to the exit point with something intentionally wrong in your pack job is a fairly interesting feeling.
Re: [TomAiello] How to pack 180
I will never intentionally pack myself a mal. A 360 perhaps and least I get a full pie or pi. I guess I should have practiced 180s before jumping superchicken! Oh wait I did, visualize and attack! Nothing is stronger than the mind anyway. I always practice by opening onheading and pretending I'm facing the wall. Probably why I always get the weird WTF kind of flight pattern is this? Go back to the dz if you want a flight pattern chode! Sorry for the tangent.
Maybe all your 180 practice is making you have 180s :)
Re: [Arvoitus] How to pack 180
Arvoitus wrote:
halorob wrote:
Why an earth would you want to pack a 180. Obviously pactice, but aren't you setting yourself up for failure? I'm going to start practicing total mals, go hand-held with pc not through the eye correctly. Next you must flip to back, grab bridle, and perform a manual extraction. Now that's practice!!!!!!
If you want to practice 180 just fuck your body position up in freefall, seems to work for everyone else.
All that added minipulation during packing just doesn't seem wise. Your are clearly highly experienced but if I tried that I'd end up locking my lines and streaming in, not really, but thats what worries me about dicking with my packjob that O so comforts me :) Say safe, thank you for the videos.
Do you honestly think that a 180 twist in the lines is going to streamer you into the ground?
Never said that, I do believe adding shit that doesnt need to be there makes matters potentially worse. It would suck for that 180 to turn into something worse is all i am saying.
Re: [TomAiello] How to pack 180
We each have our own way to prepare I guess. And most of the stuff I say is hoopla anyway, so take it with a grain of sarcasm. I was taught multiple PBR's and closing your eyes fixes every exit. If you hit something solid to go limb, and the bear will run away :)
Re: [TomAiello] How to pack 180
TomAiello wrote:
...Personally, I think that you shouldn't jump a solid, slider down object until (among other things) you've packed enough 180's from a nice bridge to have a high degree of confidence in your ability to correct them.
Taking a trip to Moab, for example, without having practiced object avoidance (which includes, but is not limited to, 180 correction) seems pretty foolish to me.
Failing to prepare is preparing to fail.
Beautifully written Tom.
Re: [Rover] How to pack 180
In reply to:
This guy knows how to pack one
That looks more like 90 or so degrees due to pilot chute and the rest asymmetric inflation. Could be all PC, but can't tell due to angle.
I think packing a 180 is important because the truly bad 180s are the ones caused by the PC slider down. You feel the opening shock and you are facing forwards away from the cliff then abruptly spin out of the half line twist towards the cliff. It's super disorienting and if you haven't experienced it is a bit of a mind fuck.