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hi,

you might have seen this: http://youtu.be/CJ8TYtJUoSY
what do you think of the idea of putting something like this:
http://www.amazon.de/Held-d3o-R%C3%BCckenprotektor/dp/B005XEHL9G/ref=pd_rhf_se_p_t_1_E649
in the stashback pocket?

regards

The way that Apex made it by creating a top loaded pocket is so that it stays in position, doesn't slide or move around inside of the pocket. Putting it inside the stashbag pocket does not hold it in place as it tends to be able to move around, slide side to side and off access inside of the stash pocket.

You may be on to something. I really hate those irremovable spine protection systems. I am still stuck with mine.
Take care,
space

I really dont see how putting a flexible foam insert into the back of a rig protects anything.
Im sure its a great upsell / revenue generator though.

You can buy D30 in numerous shapes and sizes: http://www.d3o.com/d3o_products

I used to think that Hanwags were a good investment. Perhaps i just need to stuff some of this orange foam into my pockets...

Why not? Just an honest questiont.

It's there where your back would be when it mashes against something so maybe it would help considering the impact properties.

Uhhh? Flexible foam? Well, I guess that is how rumors start. Someone who is uniformed and knows nothing about the material, posts something about that very thing to which they are completely uneducated, and hey, there it is, the rumor mill starts. It is a "polymer elastomeric foam," which is far from the traditional "foam" we think of in everyday use.

I am not sure about the upsell / revenue generator, but clearly you have know idea what d30 is and how it is made. Please educate yourself before posting. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D3o

thats the exact information i was hoping for. so i need to either get a west or sew something on my rig, so no 39€ back protection for me, would have been to good.


Some 3do only back protectors have better certification for their protection than the hard ones.

It is a flexible foam. I know a bit about the material so I thought I should post. (I studied it postgrad)
Its the 1st rheopectic foam than returns to its moulded shape and doesn't break down over time as much as plastizotes.
Its brilliant for a lot of uses especially moulded inserts and its quite chemically inert.
I just don't see how it can ever work as an unsupported 'slip'.
If you want to pay for back protection:
http://motowheels.com/images/F27214442.jpg
Buy something with lumbar support that supports your spine.

I got this one now:http://www.forcefieldbodyarmour.com/product/pro-l2k-back-protector/2382 if it works, i gonna post here after i needed it

im keen on the Pro shirt with the removable spine protector, trying to dig one up locally in Oz is proving difficult.

Just to get this a little bit back on topic:

The idea of back protection in general is a good one in principle as landings, in particular with sketchy landing areas (e.g. boulders, construction sites) might hurt if you do not land perfectly on your feet.

In general, any protector will add "bulk" to your back and increase the tension on your closing loops or Velcro. (Is anyone except me still jumping a Velcro rig? I might try to make that a poll...) Just be aware of that and check it before you set out to jump any object in that configuration.

The placement of any back protector is, IMHO, a little more delicate. If you place it in a jacket or wear just the protector under your clothing (as in snowboarding and motocross), you are most likely to have the protection in the right place at the right time. If you place it in the rig, I would be concerned that at the time of impact, the protection would most likely be too high on your back as the entire container is pulled "up" towards your starting configuration as you are loading your legstraps and the rig is pulled towards your shoulders by the canopy above your head.

When jumping an object that I feel requires additional protection, my personal choice is to jump either a Peak Performance jacket with a removable POC protector, or a Fox Motocross protector with additional elbow and shoulder protection.

Blue skies,
Flummi

Im not sure about pin tension issues, but your back protector looks good.

Ive ordered the new Airo Vest from ForceField to give it a shot, looks to have a reasonable low profile

http://www.forcefieldbodyarmour.com/product/airo-vest/2427