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http://youtu.be/v2_SNnSqzvk

Funny.
It's a joke right?

Lee

I find it hard to comment without being too much of a hypocrite but......DICKHEAD

I thought it was a joke too but you can see his landing patern on Ep-2 and it convinced me he only had 20 skydives...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrNfESaJx2E

I find it entertaining... :)

Maybe this is just a prototype not for reproduction ?

I believe this is the guy the sba were trying to track down recently. Somebody told me his gear has been confiscated thankfully. I admire people taking the bull by the horns and living a life that excites them. But somebody has to retrieve that body in whatever state it ends up in. I dont know how the recovery teams do it, especially now its so frequent......but what do I know im fresh to the sport and sometimes my rules get bent.

cool! so this means i can teach my girlfriend to bASE now? i was worried she would get hurt until i sawr this video- i mean, she is just as underprepared, but she'll be OK right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrNfESaJx2E&t=2m04s


Oooooo look at that awesome exit and body position



EDIT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQLDgjDY5Y0
What the actual fuck man...

This is going to end up making us uninsurable and burn legal sites Just because one person makes it look easy doesn't mean it is, and posting online is going to show the world that they can be just a dumb and get away with it... they hope

the white sunglasses says it all.

Landing pattern, plus the complete lack of heading control in freefall and unstable pull leading to deployment on his back... at least it only cost him a GoPro and hand mount instead of his life.

Is this the guy that had the cops called on him a couple of weeks ago? If so he was turning down a lot of advice from some good people.

I don't get it. What is the point of this?

Video shows one guy make a safe flat and stable jump and the next guy's POV of a front flip that goes less than perfect, but works out fine without any bridle wrap and a clean parachute opening. He then lands next to his friend.

No incident whatsoever.

I have seen experienced folk do far worse front flips off this cliff.

JT Had less experience when he started. He was going unpacked at the Perrine because he didn't know how to pack. Someone decided to teach him how to be safer and showed him the ropes. Some people get lucky others don't.

The incident is the lack of preparation or experience. I´m sure this goes against the regulations and requirements of the SBA.

Interesting to note there is always a sector in the community that will go it alone rejecting all advice.

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Can re phrase that in haiku fashion ?
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This guy did not intend to do a front flip

I thought you had to sleep with a BASE jumper on TV to get to jump in LB with 20 jumps.

In seriousness I told a friend of mine he was going to die before he went on a trip to LB to do his 10th jump off La Mousse with his previous nine being PCA. He went anyway. I was fucking terrified of that place. Why don't people go to Norway first?

LB is easier Not safer of course, but easier.

How do you know? Seems like he is dumb enough to go for the front flip to me.

A slider up rollover with line release mod. Interesting.

I was at the Horner when these (his) videos were being reviewed and also saw him sitting there after what I assume was this jump. He was visibly shaken up and when asked how his jump went he expressed a lot of frustration. If he had intentionally done that front flip, I agree with JT, it actually wasn't awful. From seeing his conversation with the jumper that took his rig/reviewed the videos, it was very obvious to see he was pretty much clueless.

I'm a huge fan of slider up roll overs with the brake-lines routed outside of the grommets. Stuck sliders are the best!

No way in hell was that intentional.

But hey, anyone can fuck up an exit. It's poor, but it could conceivably fall under the heading of bad luck. Not being able to fall in a straight line or deploy belly to earth (a-la jump 2) - that's plain incompetent WTF-were-you-thinking stupidity.

I strongly believe there's absolutly no reason for not getting instructions nowadays...

what i find most perturbing, is the extreme lack of video editing skills.

Who the hell would start BASE jumping without taking a proper FJC?

Those who have mentors. Which I believe is still the slight majority of those who jump.

"Mentor" and "FJC" are very nebulous terms.

I've seen "mentors" who lived several hours drive away and never actually went on any jumps with their "apprentice".

I've also seen "FJC's" which consisted of a little packing supervision and a couple PCA's off a bridge.

With the incredibly variety in both "courses" and "mentors", I don't think it's fair (or reasonable) to assume that one path or the other is always better.

People with a great mentor are definitely better off then people with a shoddy "course." But people with a good course are definitely better off than people with a bad (or uninterested) "mentor."

There is enough information freely available now that someone who is truly ready will not need and should not need someone to explain to them what should be blaitantly obvious or lead them to an exit holding their hand and patting them on the back providing a peer group that boosts there confidence to a unnatural level they never could have found on their own.

Formal training is for those that havnt progressed far enough in the sport of parachuting yet (both knowledge and confidence), but still want to make the transition. it probably helps get alot of people across the the line that that wouldnt couldnt or shouldnt ever have made the transition.

during your base career you will make many transitions far greater than your transition from skydive to base that your fjc offered all without an fjc. your first base jump is not the begining of something completely new and foreign just another transition in your progression in parachuting.

no offence but you know what i mean..... There is nothing wrong with not taking an fjc or not having a mentor.

Hmmm.... I wonder if Kate Cooper would agree?

 kate who?

Don't worry. She's someone who hasn't advanced very far in the sport of parachuting, so she took not one, but two different, formal instructional programs.

I'm sure you're decades and thousands of jumps further along than she is, in terms of your parachuting advancement.

In all seriousness, I'd like to invite you to come sit through one of my training courses and give me your feedback as to which parts you already knew and which were new information for you. I'm willing to pay you $100/day for the 4 days of the Fundamentals course in exchange for your written summary of which information you found useful, and your thoughts on what points should be expanded.

Do you skydive much?

I have done FJC's for some VERY experienced skydivers (as in 5000+ skydives).
Kate Cooper is just a fairly known and well respected skydiver who thought it would be wise to learn to BASE jump from experienced BASE jumpers.

Maybe if you are a really experienced paraglider pilot-rigger-acrobat you would be good on your own...Other then that, I would think it would not be very smart/safe to do it without proper instruction, formal or not.

Totally agree. So question: after seeing this video and knowing they are going to jump anyway, would you let them take your class and potentially help them save their own lives, or do you stay out of it since they obviously don't meet your requirements?

Hypothetically speaking of course.

So how far into skydiving do you need to before you can transition comfortably into base without a mentor or a FJC?

come on dadsy, thinking cap on, you know what we say about having to ask?

I'm aware of the if you have to ask you can't afford it line, but that doesn't fit this conversation.
So no I don't know

I wouldnt get out of bed for $100 a day..... just saying.

You guys are taking this shit way to seriously. try not to forget.........its just a f@cking base jump, a little bit of fun till the lady with the big tits and all the cash shows up!

hello mr. imsparticus,

what a silly statement.

every BASE jump i've ever done was new and foreign. too many variables. BASE is much more technical than skydiving. how can you even compare the two?

I actually don't have any hard and fast requirements. When someone contacts me looking for training who isn't well prepared, I generally start working with them on what they need to do to develop the specific skills they'll need.

It's more or less all on a case by case basis, for me.

So you already know everything, don't need any help or training, and can't be bothered to get out of bed?

Off you go, then. I'm sure you've got it all under control.

actually in most ways I think its less technical.

but whatever makes you feel special and unique i guess.

what is your real name? I would like to make sure I don't jump with you in the future

Hey pal, try and remember im not the one claiming to hold the key to someone elses salvation.

why are you getting so emotional dadsy, all ive done is expressed an opinion, Ide still jump with youxxoo

im sure you would, but im not keen

your coming across rude, arrogant and crazy disrespectful,
which is the norm at the more technical DZ

I'm sure we'd all be happy to jump with you. It's just that none of us really want to help carry your body down off the mountain.

How heavy are you? I'm not going to carry a fat ass corps. I don't want to hurt my back... again.

Lee

Im sorry for coming across like that, it was not my intention.

Curious as to why you think it's less technical. Is it the one vs two parachute thing? I would agree that the gear is less technical but as far as the jump itself and other particulars... I'm not so sure. Maybe if all jumps are from the potato bridge I guess.

Im afraid my opinions are offending others im not about that anymore im done with that. im about love and respect now! and Dadsy I will win your love and respect mark my word we will jump together!

please dont worry about having to carry my corps no one carries corpses thes days thats what helicopters are for. if its the money for the phone call your worried about use mine i can give it to you before the jump.

I won't be offended, please proceed. People will respect you more if you can explain your opinion clearly rather than just saying something and then running away. You can be respectful to others by allowing them to have an opinion, just like you. No need to get offended if they don't agree.

come on who would answer such cynicism! its pretty obvious you guys are all now standing by will double barrel shotguns read to blow heads off.

Hey Tom, I'll do it...but can you make it your Object Avoidance course please?

...and Mr. Imsparticus...please send your photo to MBA-Patto, ASAP.

I'm not being cynical, I'm honestly curious.
PM me if you are not comfortable putting it up here.

everybody laugh.... Franky made a funny....whos a funny boy then...you are franky hahaha?

That discussion will end up deconstructed to an argument about the definition of the word "technical".

If said definition involves jump complexity and not risk, one could argue that while a tracking jump from a cliff would be more technical than a tracking jump from an airplane, the cliff tracking jump would be less technical than any VFS or CRW comp jump. What I want to point out is that saying it's one way or the other is over-generalizing it a bit. But I guess that's why imsparticus phrased it as "in most ways", so now we need to know what the typical BASE-jump/skydive is, which I don't think we could find out without making some overly-broad assumptions.

Also, what is the story about the confiscated rig? What happened to individual self-governance? On who's authority and according to what rule did this happen? Or is that self-governance as in mob rule? Is that something I subject to by jumping in the valley?

"Burn her!"

I was disgusted to here of the theft to. As a rule you dont take what isnt yours. The holier than thau bullshit needs to stop.

I learn on my own. Lots of research over about 18months. I didnt have the skydives for my dz base 'mates' to help me so I baught a rig and did it alone. That was 6 months ago. 83 jumps later it scares the shit out of me because I can see all the little mistakes I made that could of had horrible outcomes. At the time the jumps seemed to go perfect.

and hopefully this is the part of the thread that details the other part of the "incident" i.e. angry mob?

When I heard about this guy I thought to myself "I bet he had few go pros on him" and I see I was right. Very entertaining.
I can not understand the rush to get in to base with very few skydives or without a mentor/FJC, in my very short time in skydiving I already met few people with far less than 100 skydives already looking for base rigs, learning to pack and talking openly how when they get back home, they will start jumping from Antennas "I don't need so many skydives, I'm only going to jump low stuff". It was pretty funny to see the same dude walk back to the packing area some hours later with mud all over him from obviously a landing that did not go so good :P I hope it went ok for him in the end.

And here lies the problem!!!

What the hell happened to checking out who you sell a rig to? Wasn't that part of the "ethics" or is money in your pocket more important now?

Not knocking you as I know you have had a little help from a couple of UK jumpers along the way :) and you bought not sold a rig,


99% of this thread and the bollocks associated with it would have been avoided if either the manufacture (if new rig) or the cock who sold this muppet a 2nd hand rig did a little checking first.

Do not bitch if some newbie closes an exit/Valley because they have fucked up on a rig you sold them without checking them out first. Count your cash but shut up moaning.
People selling rigs to inexperienced, un-mentored wannabee's are the real problem in BASE, not the new guy following a dream.

Laters

Julian

100% agree. But to be fair when I ordered the rig it was with the intention of doing a fjc. It was the attitude of a lot of base jumpers that put me off learning that way. Even now posting in one of the forums is daunting, it feels almost like some jumpers are jumping these days because theyve been base jumpers a long time they dont know how to not be base jumpers. Not because they love every second of it. I cant imagine many people start without going through fatality lists and finding out just how shocking the stats are. But surely the main thing to keep in mind is that your doing it for fun and how awesome it feels to exit anything. If I ever feel like im just going through the motions I hope I quit. The negativity is unbelievable in a sport that can so easily be the last thing you ever do. And the other thing thats pretty crazy but seems to be getting more evened out now is how hard everyone is on the new guy and how excited everyone is by the proxy legend when in reality they both do just as much harm to the sport. I guess the only way to cure it would be to destroy vimeo and youtube and build walls between base communities with only rumours of whats been accomplished getting around........progression comes at a price I guess.

I'm also really curious how technical is being defined? I'm not saying that number of skydives or time in the sport are not helpful but beyond a certain point the skills do not translate. However there is this huge ocean of skills that your life depends on that you will never learn at a drop zone. I would conceder base jumping to require a much broader skill base then sky diving.

Also be advised that if you jump with me or some of the other people here the odds of a helicopter being available are low. You're scraping up that body and humping it your self.

Lee

I don't really have room to bitch here. I'm probable the worst example I can think of.

When I started I was a young rigger and I was curious about the technology. I had the chance to eye ball and finger fuck a couple of rigs over the years so when I decided I wanted to pursue this I built my first rig. I went and talked to the only base jumper that I could find and squeezed as much advise as I could out of him, not much. He had broken him self up pretty good a few years back and no longer base jumped. So I was basically on my own. I started scouting and jumping every thing that stood up above the ground and later started traveling and finding new sites. There just wasn't a lot of information around back then. Trust me I soaked up all I could find but it wasn't like today. Now you would conceder me to be insane and frankly I would consider it to be a little bit insane not to take advantage of the resources, knowledge, experience available today.

Having said all that. I did it. I lived. And on the whole looking back I don't think my judgment and decisions were all that bad. There is not that much that I look back on in terror. Here's the thing that bugs me when I look at some of the young jumpers today. I remember being a lot more afraid, or should I say cautious. My learning curve was much slower. I can not even conceive of what is going though the mind of some of these people. I remember putting an enormous amount of thought in to every jump, What could go wrong, how to react, what to do, options. Now it seem like the only thing they worry about is the video angle.

What I'm basicly saying is that it's not what they're doing but how they are going about it that freaks me out. If you didn't have any one to help you there is ten times more information out there then when I did it but I don't see people putting half as much effort in to preparing for it and not a tenth the caution.

But then again any one who know me will tell you that I'm a pussy and a coward and the first to walk back down. But I am still here and kicking.

Lee

You need 200 skydives to jump with a camera.
Everything has a logic explenation

yeah all the way back home right then you have to dig a little hole in your back yard to put the corps in. Get real rambo unless you want to be thrown in jail you leave it where it lies call emergency services and let them take care of it.

Do you ever open a thread that has multiple pages of posts and read the last few posts then try to guess what the OP was about? Its always entertaining to see how far off topic a few people take the subject!

Lee does month long trips to Baffin by himself. I believe his assessment regarding the availability of helicopter rescue there is fairly accurate.

On top of what Tom stated about Lee jumping in Baffin, it is no secret that there is still the body of a BASE jumper that was not able to be recovered there... Who needs to get real?

Actually I was just getting in first, before Patto said it.

I'll excuse your mirth.

Yeah i had no idea we were talking about the logistics of body recovery in baffin. My bad.

So you'd clearly be against someone's selfish actions compromising access to a beautiful valley of legal BASE jumps, right?

The way I see it, that's a much more serious infraction than someone taking a rig away from the person who is trying their best to make that happen. Similar to taking a beer away from someone who is too drunk to know they shouldn't drink it.

Why was this jumper's right to jump more important than the other jumpers using the valley responsibly?

(Oh, and don't jump with Lee. That dude has a different definition of adventure. He'll make sure you're good and scared before you die. I think a jump with Lee was the closest I've seen Ray Losli come to looking visibly scared... although I can't be sure...)

I think i made it pretty clear my position on the topic. and contrary to what you guys think confiscating this guys rig did not save the valley, just made responsible basejumpers (can anyone say oxymoron??) look like a pack of thugs.

pfft self regulation........ I spit on your self regulation!

and as far as riggerlees jumping goes, Ide find jumping boring wally cliffs in baffin as about as appealing and makes as much sence as trying to catch a tan sunbaking on a beach in antartica. but each to their own. Oh it would be nice if you guys would quit the name dropping and irrelevant trumpet blowing what do you guys want a freakin medal.

I don't know what your talking about. I remember you having a big stupid grin on you face the whole time.

On the other subject, it's an interesting question. Where do the rights of the individual end and the group began. Standard ethics problem good for unresolvable discussion. About the only thing it really does is draw clear lines as to who is a leftist liberal weanie and who are the right wing individualist dicks. But setting all of that aside some body just made a post about possible site closures in france do to the rash of fatalities.

The ideals of the practical Darwinist are about to run head on into the wishes of the heard. We are beyond philosophy into survival. There is nothing that brings out the practicality of a Darwinist like survival. And my position on that is that my rights trump the rights of any one around me. In other words if it's you or me I know my position.

So in context. My right to jump trumps his right to die. I do realize that this is a very narrow and selfish point of view. That's why it's so successful for the individual and I think in the long term for the sport.

Lee

I just hope the poor bugger at least gets a refund on his landing card! (assuming he baught one)
was a call made to air glaciers before the jump?

Yeah, you are probably right about the whole 'technical' definition.

As far as the self governance thing, I think Theodore Roosevelt had some good thoughts on on it...

"It behooves us to remember that men can never escape being governed. Either they must govern themselves or they must submit to being governed by others. If from lawlessness or fickleness, from folly or self-indulgence, they refuse to govern themselves, then most assuredly in the end they will have to be governed from the outside. They can prevent the need of government from without only by showing that they possess the power of government from within. A sovereign cannot make excuses for his failures; a sovereign must accept the responsibility for the exercise of the power that inheres in him; and where, as is true in our Republic, the people are sovereign, then the people must show a sober understanding and a sane and steadfast purpose if they are to preserve that orderly liberty upon which as a foundation every republic must rest." (At Jamestown Exposition, April 26, 1907.) Mem. Ed. XII, 593; Nat. Ed. XI, 312.

"The absolute prerequisite for successful self-government in any people is the power of self-restraint which refuses to follow either the wild-eyed extremists of radicalism or the dull-eyed extremists of reaction. Either set of extremists will wreck the Nation just as certainly as the other. "(September 12, 1918.)


Roosevelt in the Kansas City Star, 213. SELF-GOVERNMENT — RESPONSIBILITIES OF. "You cannot give self-government to anybody. He has got to earn it for himself. You can give him the chance to obtain self-government, but he himself out of his own heart must do the governing. He must govern himself. That is what it means. That is what self-government means. . . . There must be control. There must be mastery, somewhere, and if there is no self- control and self-mastery, the control and the mastery will ultimately be imposed from without." (At University of Wisconsin, Madison, April 15, 1911.) Mem. Ed. XV, 548; Nat. Ed. XIII, 594.

Politicians

Do you think this guy would have bought a Landing card? IIRC, The rig was confiscated because it was stolen from his skyjump school.
Take care,
space

If you share those views, and you consider this individual to have lost/not aquired the privilege of self-governance, then to what governance should he submit to? It would really be mob rule if there's no rule of law in place. And having a rule of law in BASE brings other, bigger problems.

If he would've killed himself, it would still be less of a problem for the BASE community than other risky stuff, like WS off high ultimate. Where-as most people realise that it's a bad idea to BASE-jump without the proper planning and preparations and shown due diligence, WS of high ultimate can really be done unless your exit goes bad. There's a lot of ws exits being jumped where you die if you fuck up the exit. So since ws jumps off high ultimate has claimed more lives than inexperienced people jumping off yellow ocean should we take the wingsuiters rigs as well? After all, it has the potential to screw up access even more. What I want to show is how subjective judgements are, and why I think it's a bad idea to start asserting any rights over that of the individual jumper.


EDIT: "The rig was confiscated because it was stolen from his skyjump school" - all good then, reclaiming stolen property :)

hersay or fact?

Sorry guys I have been having too much fun wingsuiting down in brento..

This thread has really gone off topic...

Franky I would of got it first but BAM..

And the body at Baffin.. Pidge still up there.BSBD

If you insist on flying around in one of those body bags then I am going to need you to send me a photo of yourself for the list

We know who just put up there hand for maintaining the list when I retire....

You sure? In my understanding it´s a different guy who stole the rig from hes DZ. If we are talking about the guys who has been named all over fb and internet.

It was a different guy. I remembered incorrectly. My apologies.
Take care,
Space.

Maybe this helps to clarify:
A German / Austrian voice at 5:53 says "Woa ned Absicht" (that was not intentional). Twice.

YAWN. Been there, done that.

Why is this in the Incidents Forum?

I can confirm he is registered and bought a landing card.
but why a refund? he jumped and landed.
partially in a tree

personally i bought one and did zero jumps this year in the valley.

Patto, you've said before that you've got your photo already sorted out for the BFL.

I suppose I should send you mine too.

And some people think we're joking around...

in a word: clueless.

While you're certainly entitled to your opinions just as much as anyone else here, it's easy to hide behind an anonymous screen name and play armchair badass on the internet.

I'd like to know who you are just so I can be sure we don't share an exitpoint anytime soon. You can feel free to PM it if you're not actually man enough to stand behind your assertions and statements publicly, it's okay, we understand.

To Tom Aiello
In all seriousness, I would gladly take you up on that offer.

in all seriousness stop swinging of Toms nuts.

MY name is Bryan Rapoza. Nice to meet you. You're welcome to swing on my nuts anytime, assuming your mom's done with them.

Have a nice day.

maybe prorata the refund seeing as he is being stopped against his will from getting its full use. if i was the sba Ide be doing it as a matter of principle. a statement to show that they dont accept support from those they dont believe should be jumping in the area. just a thaught..... I wont share with you my thaughts on the statement of withholding the refund sends as my popularity has already taken so much of a beating in the last few days. so much for free thinking. had i have known i was gonna be white anted by the mob i would have kept my big mouth shut and stepped back and just blown sunshine up everyones ass.

(365-days of use) x 25chf= $$refund

Really mature Bryan!

you put the "moron" in oxymoron

lol,

and just so you know, having a head like a spark plug does not make you a champion!

and being an asshole does not make you a BASEjumper..

Im pretty sure all ive dont is put forward my views and defended personal attacks all the while avoiding stooping to my agressors levels (barring the sparkpug comment which i now regret, my apologies Bryan. Notice how i still use a capital B for bryans name, surely you can see im a class act). I should be commended for my bravery and the rest of you should be ashamed of yourselves.

im going to lighten up the mood inbetween all these hurtful, downright mean comments back and forth!

what do you call a man from pakistan who has gone everywhere, and experienced everything?

BINDAIR DUNDAT

Reminds me a bit on my Norwegian buddy who came to LB wirh a stolen car only 17 years old. He left LB with no teeth because of a cliff strike. :-)

never heard of e e cummings, now, have you? wonderful "class act" you are!

Congratulations?

You are coming off as being quite the fucktard. Have you even been there? Do you have a prized local object you would like to remain jumpable? If your posts are for real and that's your actual attitude, it's jumpers like you with the 'fuck the world, do what I want' attitude who fuck shit up for everyone else. Party 'til impact bro

We both know that I don't have the manners for a job like that.

You didn't proofread that did you. Not proofreading is my territory. If you're not going to proofread, and as a result makes it appear that you don't spell well, or punctuate well, then please put my name in the credits. It's a reasonable request.

Thanks for apologizing to my friend Bryan. He's not very thick skinned and was probably sad.

Sorry for treading on your teritory, it wont happen again.

You know, I think I like imsparticus. He put on his loincloth and a heavy coat of oil and went forth into the hornets' nest...and what a shit storm he hath wreaked. Well played.

I still don't think this belongs on the Incidents Forum, however.

thankyou for your support stinky,

but what happened to my poll?

That's what she said.

What, so now im some sort of premature ejeculator or something?

You lowlife basejumpers just dont know when to stop do you?

you're the one that keeps going, douche!

something else yo momma said..

 

I was thinking it sounded more like Erlangen ;-)[/:P]
take care,
space

 

Funny, but can we please get back to the topic of explaining how to suck eggs, and telling everyone not to piss in the wind cause you could end up with piss on your leg.

But sometimes pissing in the wind results in piss on your belly, neck, and face, something I rather fancy.

im sorry martin but you are terribly misinformed. also pretzels and cream come from bavaria.

Allright, allright, all fine. If you got a problem with my post just ignore it please.
But I wouldn't be surprised if that guy is Bavarian.

Look man dont beat around the bush, if you want me to piss in your mouth just say so!

No, I'm more of an autoerotic kind of guy. I don't mind if you get off on watching, though, just keep your hands and fluids to yourself.

you shouldnt joke about that stuff. You know i heard most autoerotic asphixiation fatalities are passed off as suicides because loved ones particularly mothers are to embarrassed to tell the coroner what little johnny was really up to, be careful with this stuff though extremely pleasurable and addictive this is something you definately would never want your loved ones to go through.

Oh good God no, I meant autoerotic urination and watersports.

I agree, any type of asphyxiation is really dangerous and no one should begin practicing without a couple of good mentors and a good asphyxiation course. I'm currently getting good at my autoerotic urination so I can be comfortable finding a AA mentor. I currently have about 150 autoerotic urinations, so I'm almost there.

I'm getting a mentor and I like posting online, so I will never die.

I have some notes from my mentor David Carradine. He taught me how to BASE jump as well!

Oh man that was some funny shit wasnt expecting that... You know stinky and halrob i dont care what anyonelse says about you guys i recon your alright.