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Hello,

I am interested in getting into Wing Suit flying but have a long way to go as I work towards 200 jumps. I know proximity flying is illegal in the United States, but how is base jumping off a mountain not illegal? Does anyone offer base jumping with a wing suit?

Neither proximity flight nor BASE are illegal in the USA.

There are some specific places where it is illegal to BASE jump in the USA (like National Parks), as well as a very few specific places where it is not allowed to fly wingsuits (like Chamonix, France) but where BASE is permitted.

Wingsuit BASE is generally an activity undertaken by people who are both expert BASE jumpers and expert wingsuit pilots.

If you want to fly wingsuits, I'd recommend starting with standard skydiving for several hundred jumps.

Next, take a good wingsuit training program (one example is here).

At around the same level of skydiving experience you should be able to find BASE training (for example here).

When you are comfortable with both BASE and wingsuit flight separately, and wish to combine the two, I'd recommend finding good coaching as you start out (ask here) about that.

Thanks for your reply. However, a skydiver and Wingsuit jumper at Skydive Arizona informed me that proximity jumping is illegal in the United States, and I would have to go to another country. Is he just telling me this because I dont have enough jumps?

Reread Tom Aiello's reply and trust the information he has given you, it is spot on.
Wingsuit proximity BASE is legally done in the USA, but you are so far away from this activity,that by the time you are skilled enough, you will have also learned just how little about it many of the self proclaimed experts at the DZ actually know .
Regards, B.

Thank you for the reply. I was able to get a hold of Douglas from Skydive Elsinore in California. He recommended since I am starting out I get licensed at Skydive Arizona and eventually move on Wingsuit. I have a long way to go in this respect.
Skydive Elsinore offers Wingsuit BASE training as many places in the United States don't. It would be a long drive on weekends or expensive to fly out every Friday but thankfully I have a very high paying job and weekends off since its a long commute from Phoenix, AZ.
Douglas also states no dropzone instructs BASE, but there are ways they can help me become better by balloon jumps.
Secondly, how long in general would it take for a person to be able to do proximity flying with a wingsuit? Next, being physically fit is a good idea but is there an age where you shouldn't be skydiving? I am 5'4" weighing at 125 pounds.

Wow.

Forget about wingsuit proximity flying in the BASE environment for now. Go skydiving and have fun with it. As you progress along in your skydiving career you'll learn about gear, how stuff works and meet other jumpers who know a thing or two. Once you have become a seasoned and experienced skydiver you can think about base. Then you go ahead and read the Great book of BASE, you can find it here:

www.base-book.com

After that, go watch this on youtube:

http://youtu.be/1Nez_WKFQBc

In the beginning, BASE was self invented and super
dangerous. Thanks to several decades of hard work
by some and death by others, today the path is well
worn making BASE really accessible but still super
dangerous... especially for people who can not be
bothered to do their home-work!!

Stop asking questions, they have already been
answered many times -- all YOU have to do is
read the articles on here and the wiki on Blinc.

One last tip, for now try to focus on learning
how to jump out of an airplane and safely land
a parachute because that really is the first step
PERIOD FULL STOP and no you are not special
because you are fit, rich, and rad on a bike.

Lastly, guys in their 70's SKY and BASE jump.

There is no need to fly out for training (of whichever kind) every weekend.

You go out, spend a week (or less) doing the training, and then return home.

I'm not sure why you have the idea that you would have to fy to Idaho/Elsinore/wherever weekend after weekend to take a course that only takes a few days. Are you picturing repeating the same instruction over and over? Can you explain why you would want to do that?

For BASE I could get it done in three days at Twin Falls. For Elsinore, the instructor recommended I train every weekend, which would mean a 5 hour drive or flying. I don't think wingsuit can be taught in just a weekend?

You sound so stupid dude. you live in AZ but you'd fly to SoCal to learn how to skydive? Is that the closest DZ that you could find? you should give up already. you're not smart enough to continue.

Ps. Please post a picture of yourself, I'd like to make you a meme.

All BASE training courses are not the same. You can certainly pay for a course that lasts 2 or 3 days. Or you can pay the same amount (or less) for a 4 day course that covers more material. Being shorter is generally not a virtue in a training program.




The First Flight Course at Elsinore is less than a day. After that, it's a question of how much coaching you want on specific skills. It's going to be a lot more economical (in terms of both time and money) to take the FFC and get several days of coaching jumps at one time (a long weekend, or maybe a week at the DZ there). After that, you can do a lot of practicing at Eloy (and learn some things from people there), returning to Elsinore for more coaching whenever you want to.

The idea of commuting 5 hours every weekend to continue wingsuit coaching seems kind of silly to me. Just take a week off and get a bunch of good coaching up front.

Bro, this is like asking how to ride a 1000 CC crotch rocket without ever having rode a bicycle. Go skydive, have fun. Asking these questions here will only anger people and get you off on the wrong foot. In your journey I suggest listening much more than you speak.

http://www.wingsuitschool.com is a simple graph that explains the path to take. Focus on the road, and dont worry about the destination that much...

+1

I understand why you were told BASE and WS BASE is illegal.

I would say the same thing if a dumbass like you asked me about BASE. You must be trolling

+1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dtbecker,
Watch this documentary and tell us your thoughts on it before you proceed any further.

Documentary

This will help us give you some direction in your quest.
Take care,
space

And make sure you turn on subtitles

he states too much.

Honestly, I don't think I have what it takes to base jump. I also don't think I will make it to proximity flying because I know I can't base jump. I would be very proud of myself to make it to wing suit without BASE.

Also, the more I think about it, I should probably wait until I finish college before even considering skydiving. My parents would be upset if I got myself injured for being all the money and effort they put towards my education.

I am planning to set up a tandem jump with my local DZ though just to get an idea of skydiving and maybe do wind tunnel training.

Also, thank you all for replying to my thread.

Thanks! You just can't come by this sort of humor every day.

Wait? Are you a chick? That changes everything.

What we haven't specified is that average looking males need 200 skydives to start BASE

Ugly to average looking chicks need only 50

Hot chicks don't need any experience. Their good looks keep them from going in.

...or at least that's how it would seem

No, I am a male. I don't think I have to be concerned with weight

Douglas told me that you get tons of chick with your "very high paying job" so I wouldn't be concerned either.

Your parents still pay for your education even though you have a very high paying job and enough spare cash to fly across the country every weekend if you wanted to?

You selfish fuck

LOL

Hey man, don't listen to these clowns. I'm setting up a wingsuit rental store in Lauterbrunnen this summer, as I'm commited to get more people like you introduced to the sport without having to deal with the upfront expense of acquiring the gear. All you need is a credit card and a release form signed by your legal guardian.

Seriously?

Yes - in case you don't return the suit, get it?

Wow!!!

I'd like to sign a few people up for this service against their will.

You have an ex-wife?

Nope, still love my wife dearly. I do, however, have a neighbor who seems to think we share a driveway even though we live on opposite sides of the street. SIGN EM UP! Him and his Prius!

slowly leak about 1 PSI out of each of his front tires each day.............eventually it will cause him undue hardship.

Couldn't have played that any better