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Re: [bromanjohnson] Crazy Base Jump off Radio Tower
he should get permission next time
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Re: [bromanjohnson] Crazy Base Jump off Radio Tower
WHAT?! Without permission?! What the hell is he thinking? He's gonna ruin BASE jumping for all the rest of us.
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Re: [bromanjohnson] Crazy Base Jump off Radio Tower
It's too bad he didn't have any of that Gammalabs crap when he was drinking his own piss in the canyons of Arizona.


http://www.basejumper.com/..._reply;so=ASC;mh=25;
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Re: [bromanjohnson] Crazy Base Jump off Radio Tower
That's the most unbelievable thing I've ever seen. Where can I buy this pink juice you speak of?
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Re: [bromanjohnson] Crazy Base Jump off Radio Tower
Hi Johnny, or friend of Johnny.
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Re: [hookitt] Crazy Base Jump off Radio Tower
Wink
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Re: [jdatc] Crazy Base Jump off Radio Tower
jdatc wrote:
It's too bad he didn't have any of that Gammalabs crap when he was drinking his own piss in the canyons of Arizona.


http://www.basejumper.com/..._reply;so=ASC;mh=25;

this should be linked to again.
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Re: [wasatchrider] Crazy Base Jump off Radio Tower
He should track the next time
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Re: [Heat] Crazy Base Jump off Radio Tower
Heat wrote:
He should track the next time

Tracking is for PUSSIES. Johnny Strange is no pussy! He drinks this shit because he is way more extreme than all of us. We only WISH we had a fraction of his skills!
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Re: [jdatc] Crazy Base Jump off Radio Tower
While looking over some of his other excellent additions to the youtube universe, his most recent exploit shows him jumping slider up with:

1) no slider bumpers on his rapide links
2) his control lines NOT routed through the rings on his risers

He should look into that...

http://www.youtube.com/...QfEtvqGQ&index=1
No Rings.JPG
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Re: [thedude325] Crazy Base Jump off Radio Tower
I meant through the wires of course, sorry for not making that clear
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Re: [johnnystrange] Crazy Base Jump off Radio Tower
johnnystrange wrote:
Appreciate your concern. You could have just PM me, unless you just wanted to hop on the criticism wagon. That's cool too though, have a good one!

If I PM'd you, other people (besides yourself) couldn't learn from/recognize the mistakes or think about the potential consequences of them. Don't be so self-centered and sensitive (That's criticism, FYI).
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Re: [jpengel] Crazy Base Jump off Radio Tower
jpengel wrote:
If I PM'd you, other people (besides yourself) couldn't learn from/recognize the mistakes or think about the potential consequences of them.

I concur. What are the potential consequences of this set up? In what situation would this be ok in one's opinion etc.
Take care,
space
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Re: [base283] consequences of this set up?
The pressure from the brake lines
helps push the slider-down during the
inflation phase of deployment, hence
this configuration could produce long
snivel openings when unexpected.

Any time the control-lines are outside
the rear slider grommets there is a
slightly greater chance of a line-over
which is why we use tailgates, but a
person could use painter's tape to
address this variable.

I personally would not jump a canopy
configured in this manner in the BASE
environment, but if I saw someone
doing it at a very high exit point with
very forgiving LZ I would just shrug,
but the same setup at a 700' A and I
would offer to fix it for them myself.
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Re: [GreenMachine] consequences of this set up?
GreenMachine wrote:
The pressure from the brake lines
helps push the slider-down during the
inflation phase of deployment, hence
this configuration could produce long
snivel openings when unexpected.

Any time the control-lines are outside
the rear slider grommets there is a
slightly greater chance of a line-over
which is why we use tailgates, but a
person could use painter's tape to
address this variable.

I think you missed the point. It looks like the control lines are in the slider but not the guide rings.

GreenMachine wrote:
I personally would not jump a canopy
configured in this manner in the BASE
environment, but if I saw someone
doing it at a very high exit point with
very forgiving LZ I would just shrug,
but the same setup at a 700' A and I
would offer to fix it for them myself.

I wouldn't just shrug this one off. Jumping slider up with out using the guide rings could result in a slider hang up in the unlikely event of a brake fire on opening. If such an entanglement occured I doubt it would matter what your exit altitude was.
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Re: [Fledgling] consequences of this set up?
Fledgling wrote:
.... up in the unlikely event of a brake fire on opening. If such an entanglement occured I doubt it would matter what your exit altitude was.

you might be a bit fcked up if you dropped a toggle too, especially if you let go of it to push the stupid slider out of your face that had gone down right past where the bump stop should have been
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Re: [Fledgling] consequences of this set up?
+1
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Re: [johnnystrange] Crazy Base Jump off Radio Tower
johnnystrange wrote:
If I PM'd you, other people (besides yourself) couldn't learn from/recognize the mistakes or think about the potential consequences of them. Don't be so self-centered and sensitive (That's criticism, FYI). "

Ahh My bad, I didn't mean to come off as sensitive, I just simply don't really give a fuck about your opinion as I don't know who you are and think arguing over an internet forum is pretty stupid. With that being said I have a problem with one of the people who was posting on this forum that I don't particularly like and didn't want to start arguing on the internet.
But, if you are really concerned I'll explain. This was not a B.A.S.E jump... I am very high when I pull with a lot of time to fix most malfunctions. Since my control lines are not through the guide rings, In a line over situation (in my opinion) I could play with it enough given the extra length and hopefully fix it before using my WLO toggles as line overs can sometime fix themselves . GreenMachine is completely right about everything he said, and I would also never jump this in a B.A.S.E. environment. Judging other people by their pack job is not something I would suggest to do because everyone does something different. Wink

sorry dude, but your set up shows that you don't know very, very basic stuff. And if someone tells you this you react like a little kid. A setup like this can kill you, like someone said if you have a toggle fire and the slider gets hung up. go do your homework.
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Re: [Fledgling] consequences of this set up?
FYI - I have not watched his video...

I was simply replying to Space
regarding the risk of not running
control lines through grommets.
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Re: [Mikki_ZH] Crazy Base Jump off Radio Tower
+1

Just to preface, at the time, I had almost 500 BASE Jumps and 3,000+ skydives when this happened, so I 100% know better and I fucked up. I got guilted into a balloon jump I forgot about I committed to weeks earlier. I had been drinking since noon and at 9PM got the call where my friend put me on the guilt trip of all guilt trips about the balloon jump. So I packed, but because I was definitely beyond tanked, I screwed up and missed routing through the guide rings.

First hand experience with a double toggle fire that happened so fast, both toggles wrapped over the slider allowing it to only came down a third of the way. Basically, it looked like a partially inflated ball of shit over my head. I couldn't steer and the canopy was for the most part just going straight down...fast. I hit the ground like a sack of potatoes, fucked up my knees and my back up, and hit my head on the soft ground.

Mistake#1: Packing after drinking (I am not talking a beer or two. I was on a bender)
Mistake #2: Missing the guide rings.

Had that happened on a building, or even as Greeny says at high altitude, had I landed on a steep talus, or anywhere with a bad area to land, I am pretty sure I would not have walked away. It is not open for discussion and it is basic, slider up knowledge...DO NOT route outside of the guide rings.
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Re: [wasatchrider] Crazy Base Jump off Radio Tower
Not at you wastchrider, But could this be a jump from the Legendary Brother of Chuck Norris? Huck Norris? Just joking about the post style of the OP. I think.
Take care,
space
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Re: [GreenMachine] consequences of this set up?
GreenMachine wrote:
FYI - I have not watched his video...

I was simply replying to Space
regarding the risk of not running
control lines through grommets.

Then FYI, why the fuck did you have such a detailed response to something nobody was talking about? Maybe you shoulda watched the video.

Edit to add this guy Smile so you dont get bent outta shape.
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In Summary...

For any newbies/virgins who may be confused...
here is a link to what I had typed here originally
but decided to delete it.
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Re: [Fledgling] consequences of this set up?
I didnt watch it either.
Take care,
space

Huck dont huck off of objects. Objects huck him off :-)
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Re: [Fledgling] consequences of this set up?
Fledgling wrote:
I wouldn't just shrug this one off. Jumping slider up with out using the guide rings could result in a slider hang up in the unlikely event of a brake fire on opening. If such an entanglement occured I doubt it would matter what your exit altitude was.

A lot of jumpers say in the "unlikely" event of a premature brake release..... I would think that is the most likely tech prob one could have. But thats viewing 9-10,000 jumps
What do others think?
Take care,
space
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Re: [base283] consequences of this set up?
Same here, I already had toggle fires 2 times. Not so unlikely...
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Re: [Mikki_ZH] consequences of this set up?
I had a toggle fire as well once.
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Re: [base283] consequences of this set up?
me too had a couple.

also if he has such a poor understanding of how things actually work, my bet is he probably doesnt stowe his brakes properly for slider off (which is what this set up is equivalent to) ie using the loop so he is more likely to get a fire than normal.

plus it is also possible to drop a toggle, no keeper ring and that mofo has gone. Seen that a few times too
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Re: [base695] consequences of this set up?
Once you're open and flying straight, toggles are a luxury, not a necessity. Sly
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Re: [base283] consequences of this set up?
base283 wrote:
A lot of jumpers say in the "unlikely" event of a premature brake release..... I would think that is the most likely tech prob one could have.

I think it's probably second after line twists. But it's much more likely than something like a line over or tension knot.

I've also seen several cases where a jumper has knocked their own toggle off with an aggressive grab during the canopy inflation.
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Re: [TomAiello] consequences of this set up?
while were on it have you seen premature brake fires both slider up and down?

only thing happened to me so far was jumping after a few too many like and idiot, i simply dropped my right toggle in full flight cause i was pussyfooting it..........uneventful landing
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Re: [TomAiello] consequences of this set up?
In reply to:
I've also seen several cases where a jumper has knocked their own toggle off with an aggressive grab during the canopy inflation.

That's me Smile