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Buying first BASE rig
Hi, this is my first post here. I was just wondering what would be the best BASE rig/setup for a new comer thanks!!
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Re: [SQBrewski] Buying first BASE rig
I like turtles
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Re: [vid666] Buying first BASE rig
ya get a turtle form vid he has lots to choose from
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Re: [SQBrewski] Buying first BASE rig
SQBrewski wrote:
Hi, this is my first post here. I was just wondering what would be the best BASE rig/setup for a new comer thanks!!

i would hate to burden you with "too much" information as a newbie, because it sure is alot of work to figure all this stuff out, isnt it now?

try this for starters

http://www.basejumper.com/Articles/Gear/
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Re: [TransientCW] Buying first BASE rig
Thank you for your help and a serious response.
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Re: [SQBrewski] Buying first BASE rig
SQBrewski wrote:
Thank you for your help and a serious response.

Liking turtles is serious business, don't dis me, yo !
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Re: [SQBrewski] Buying first BASE rig
What sort of jumps are you planning on doing?

Terminal? Wingsuit? Low, solid stuff?
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Re: [TomAiello] Buying first BASE rig
For now Terminal/Solid stuff. Im not really intrigued by doing low jumps. Id love to learn how to wingsuit proximity flying but that's way down the line.
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Re: [SQBrewski] Buying first BASE rig
If you're intending to do only terminal jumps, you don't really need a vented canopy.

My first choice in this situation would be an Ace from Consolidated Rigging because (a) it's the cheapest canopy on the market, (b) it was designed and tested as an unvented canopy (unlike most of the competitors), and (c) it's made by Performance Designs, which has extremely good quality control.

If you decide you want an ultralight canopy (which I wouldn't recommend for a first canopy, but all the cool kids are buying them so you may decide you have to have one), my first choice would be the Feather, from Asylum, for the excellent glide ratio and flare. My second choice would be the Flik UL, from Apex (for similar reasons). My third choice would be the Trango from Atair, which doesn't have the glide ratio or flare power of the other two, but is still a solid and field proven canopy.


You will also want a pin rig. In my opinion, if you are buying new, you ought to look at 2 pin rigs from major manufacturers because they will hold their resale value the best.

Where are you located? If you are in Europe, you will probably find that the Adrenalin containers are the easiest to get/cheapest after import duty.

If you are in North America, you probably want to look mostly at the US manufacturers, for cost reasons.

My personal preference in your situation would be the Helium, from Morpheus, because it is a "convertable" rig that can change profile to be adjusted for wingsuit flight (and also for much smaller canopies if you decide to switch to an ultralight later in your jumping career).

The other container I'd recommend you look at is the Apex Summit, which is similar in design to the Helium (and also a convertable) but at a much higher price point. If you are in Europe, the corresponding rig is the Adrenalin Hybrid 2.

If you are trying to save money, but still want to go with a new container, have a look at the Apex DP (their lower end pin rig), the Asylum Perigee Pro (my personal favorite all around pin rig) and the Morpheus Gargoyle (the lower end version of the Helium).

Here's a price comparison on the Helium, Perigee Pro, DP and Gargoyle that I did a couple weeks ago for a student of mine. I tried to select the same options from each manufacturer to get a good "apples to apples" comparison, except that the Helium is a higher end convertable container.

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Gear Cost Comparison

Containers:
Costs for container package with 42” vented ZP pilot chute, stash bag, risers, and stiffened toggles.


Apex DP: $1032
DP (package, no options): $957
Stashbag (not included with DP package): $55
Venting on 42” PC: $30

Morpheus Gargoyle: $840
Gargoyle (package, no options): $825
Venting on 42” PC (not included with package): $15

Morpheus Helium: $965
Helium (package, no options): $950
Venting on 42” PC (not included with package): $15

Asylum Perigee Pro: $930
Perigee Pro (package, no options): $885
Stiffloop toggle upgrade (not included in package):$15
Stash bag pocket (not standard): $30



The good news is that if you are primarily looking at terminal jumps, you can pick up almost any secondhand pin rig and have something that is good enough to get you started, which can save you a lot of money.

I hope that helps.

In my opinion the best way to decide what you want is to take a good training course that lets you see/pack/jump various different systems, and get a bit more education about them, before you put down cash to buy one.
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Re: [TomAiello] Buying first BASE rig
Thank you for all the great info you helped me out a lot. Ill look into Snake River BASE academy too.
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Re: [SQBrewski] Buying first BASE rig
Are you a skydiver? What do your fellow skyjumpers like to use?
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Re: [SQBrewski] Buying first BASE rig
FWIW we are also selling the Zak2 (a standard 2 pin rig) for $1000 and the Hybrid2 (a low profile rig for standard weight canopies such as the Troll or Ace) for $1100. The base price package includes stainless hardware, a non-metal harness system (3 Ring and articulation are extra options), and a stash bag. We also include a free small PC (up to 36) or a big PC for $15 if you purchase a complete system. Complete systems also get a canopy discount that usually works out to about $100. It does not include shipping or tax for CA residents. We sell Atair (Troll, OSP, and Trango) and CR (Ace and BlackJack) canopies, so any of these can be paired with the rigs we sell. Our website is under construction, but our Facebook page has detailed prices. Send us a message and one of us will give you a call if you want.
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Re: [OuttaBounZ] Buying first BASE rig
Yes i skydive, and the few people I skydive with don't BASE jump.
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Re: [parachutesplus] Buying first BASE rig
Sorry, I wasn't trying to exclude you guys from my analysis. Since I'm a dealer for Apex, Asylum and Morpheus (as well as CR) I had their price information easy to hand. If I'm fortunate maybe someday I'll be able to become a dealer for your gear as well. Smile
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Re: [TomAiello] Buying first BASE rig
Toms a gear snob!Smile
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Re: [JBag] Buying first BASE rig
No, he's a gear slut...and I say that in the nicest, possible way Wink
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Re: [SQBrewski] Buying first BASE rig
SQBrewski wrote:
Thank you for your help and a serious response.

...You had it easy.
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Re: [TomAiello] Buying first BASE rig
No sweat, Tom. Let's talk more in private. ;)
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Re: Buying first BASE rig
great thread the same for me, im also skydiver/speedflyer and deeply interested in base.

do i get this right, if i buy my first rig its possible to buy one rig and canopy that fits every need "terminal/low/wingsuit" and the only part you adjust for the need will be the pilotchute /rigsettings for wingsuit ?
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Re: [wiplash] Buying first BASE rig
Yes, you can. Just buy a two pin rig with Dacron lines and you're good to go.
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Re: [Krug] Buying first BASE rig
yep thats all there is to it, ya just but a rig with dacron lines and PRESTO! Instantly Cool.
Don't forget the GoPro!