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Driving east across the midwest, I get tailed by 3 different cops... one pulls me over for going 74 in a 70. And proceeds to interrogate me for 15 minutes on every little detail.

Then another just tailed me for a few miles right in my blind spot as I went 2 mi under the limit.

Next state, I get pulled over, accused of going 70 in a 65-- when I was going 65, and he gunned the car passing me-- and searches my car, and i get another warning.

wtf??? was there an APB out on a white subaru? does my bumper sticker say "fucking crackhead" or something? at least they were polite while they annoyed the shit out of me.

Face it. Some of us just look suspicious no matter what we are doing. Others, like 460, could be seen by a cop doing weird satanic rituals and the cop would hardly notice.

Just the way it is.

Walt

Apparently I look like a meth head then!

I'd guess they had some kind of alert for a car that matched your description and you had out of state plates.

You more or less look like what you are--former military officer now doctor--which is a long way from looking like a meth head.

Did you consent? How did that go down...?

They're looking for money or other valubles that they can seaze. It's becoming verry commen. Any one with an out of state plate is a target. Best odds of haveing some money in cash and not be in a position to return to town for the cort date. A lot of people wont even fight it.

Lee

Out of curiosity what state plates do you have?

I've driven 135,000 miles in 6.5 years, a majority of them on long distance cross country things have gotten pulled over probably 3 times, all of which were my fault.

I've been talked to the cops on a more regular basis from sleeping in my car than I ever have from being pulled over.

That doesn't answer my question...

Fight what, a ticket or fight a search?

What grounds/probable cause does the officer have to search with a 5 MPH speeding ticket?

Fanya- New Hampshire plates. Live free or die, bitches

coco- he patted me down before inviting me to sit in his front passenger seat while he wrote the warning. both cops did that to me, maybe they have folks drive off. or maybe because it was raining. then we started talking about parachuting and i offered to show him the gear. i always take time for LEO education. when he politely asked to see my other bags i figured it was pragmatically the fastest way to get back on the road, and i'm sure it fit nicely with his agenda.

riggerlee- i think you nailed it. i could only imagine if i had a wad of cash somewhere. or how id feel if i was a minority getting pulled over and tailed by the man all day long in the middle of wonderbread land

though you havent seen me the day after sleeping at a rest stop and not showering for a while

Why did you have to get out of the car...?

"FUCKING FASCISTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

they each asked me to sit in the front passenger seat of the cruiser while they were running my plates. i'd heard they do that normally in the midwest, never seen it in new england though

Subaru = Hippy car. They are looking for Ganja and profiling out-of-state drivers.

Same shit happened to me in Iowa recently. Got pulled over because I didn't have a front plate on my car. When I told the cop that I don't need one in my home state he said "I'm gonna go look that up right now."

What a crock of shit!

They can ask you to do a lot of things but you don't have to comply with everything.
They are testing you when they ask you to follow their orders. They are checking to see 1)How far they can push you and 2) If you know what your rights are.

I think it's a good thing to educate the cops but it's NEVER a good idea to give consent to a search. No probable cause, no search. They may tell you that they have reasonable suspicion but that does not equal probable cause. With probable cause they need to have some articulable reason that you have committed a crime or are about to commit a crime. Cops rely on us to give them everything they need to make an arrest... all they do is start to ask questions and we comply not realizing that we don't have to tell them ANYTHING! We don't need to be disrespectful but we also don't need to subservient.

Screw that... I'm not sitting in a cop car, front or back, unless I'm under arrest. I've helped pull enough fuckers out of cop cars to know how filthy they are. I'd just put my keys on the roof or hood if it was that much of a concern.

Though, I'd bust out my Paramedic license first anyway, so they would likely let me go right off the bat. Cops know its bad Karma to ticket a medic... cause its gonna be someone like me saving your ass when you get shot.

Thanks for posting! I'll be driving out to Cali in the near future... good to know.

Exactly!

I have been coerced into an unlaw search.
Yes, they will push you as far as possible.

We got a speeding ticket on the way to a
jump today, motorcycle cop had a small
camera clipped to his shirt/vest/front...
We all agreed, it works as much to keep
them in check as it does against us.

I think the video camera thing is great, i wish all cops had them all the time.

to everybody arguing against ever giving consent to a search. in principle i totally agree with you. and i dont want their searches normalized. if the first cop had asked to search, i would have said no because he was kind of dickish. the second cop was definitely a better social engineer. and was my first time getting searched, so dont judge too harshly

ps i suppose if i ever do try to smuggle something.. i wouldn't want my first experience with getting searched to be at a time i actually had something to hide, hmm

edit to add:
pps every cop i know has said if they really want to search without consent, they will just claim to smell marijuana and then search away with impunity

Colm: every cop i know has said if they really
want to search without consent, they will just...
and then search away with impunity

I 100% agree BUT there is a big difference
between being arrested and being convicted

Totally agree on the video!


Yes and No.

If that BS was pulled, I would tell them to bring out the dogs. I would say I want your Sargent here, and I want it video taped so if the dog false indicates, I can sue your city.

P.S. The Controlled Substance Act is 100% Unconstitutional.

Shady base jumpers with NH plates!

just ask them if they understand why it says live free or die on the plate and drive away. works every time

You know the camera will probably have "malfunctioned" or "wasn't filming", if the video would have been in your favor! ;)

Let me guess Nebraska?

That's why we, as a people, need to record video of every interaction with so called 'authorities' in order to keep them in line and protect ourselves.
There are devices that record as well as send the video to a secure offsite location in case the police try to confiscate and/or destroy it.

speaking of pigs
theres a user in this forum, goes by the pseudonym 'Soloist'
He is a Police Officer, and quite an asshole.
he is from TX, near the city that starts with D, and apparently wants to be a base jumper.
funny though, he registered right around the time i got busted last year..

anyways, Cop rant thread just reminded me of him.

If you wouldn't burn towers in my city.

If you wouldn't bring family and have them sit at the tower watching.

If you wouldn't jump when the police tell you to come down. (they wouldn't step on your hands)

You would have no problems.
We are human we like to jump too. Im glad you got your video back.

Glad to hear your Aunt got her heart meds

I agree, but unfortunately more and more people are being arrested for such actions.

http://www.wlbt.com/...ding-police-shooting

http://www.slate.com/...es_it_a_felony_.html

http://www.techdirt.com/...pt-as-evidence.shtml

http://www.infowars.com/...ng-police-in-public/

http://thinkprogress.org/...e-officer/?mobile=nc

http://www.boston.com/...ellphone_recordings/

http://www.npr.org/...hp?storyId=129553748

hey, the police told me to come down immediately. climbing down would have taken 30-45 minutes.
we only followed their instructions ;D

Iowa, and Illinois (i.e. "Felony to record the cops" state) Actually the two states I'd heard the worst rumors of before my trips.

Yes I know the police are attempting to put charges on people recording. They are testing people to see if they actually know their rights and attempting to instill fear in those that may try to do it in the future. The police can and will do whatever they want to citizens as long as the citizens don't know how to defend themselves in such actions.
Take for instance the first article you posted. The police clearly violated numerous laws but the citizens don't know how to hold them accountable for their actions.

If you look closely at the so called laws you can see that it is not illegal to record when there is no expectation of privacy such as in public places. Most of the articles you posted the arrests were made illegally and the officers could be held liable for their actions but in most all cases the people arrested won't prosecute because they don't know how to or they think that it's too much of a hassle or too costly.

Let me ask a question... how are the police able to record their interactions with the public and be immune? Aren't police officers PUBLIC officials? If police are public officials then do they ever have an expectation of privacy while on the job?

Also, there were references to needing consent of the parties. My thoughts on this are if that is the case then get their consent. Give them notice that you will be recording any and all interactions with any public officials or government entities and give them the opportunity to say no or give reason why you can't. Chances are they will ignore your notice, which is fine, since you will have put in the notice that if they don't respond they will be acquiescing to your notice and agreeing that you can record the interactions, thereby making a binding contract and violating it will have severe consequences. Then it's up to you to enforce that contract after it's breached.

Yes, it is a hassle and yes you will probably get arrested on numerous occasions but nothing will stick, you may even possibly get roughed up a bit but that is a small price to pay to secure your rights and to keep the police in line. If the people don't keep the public officials in line then they will absolutely continue to make this more and more of a police state and the people will lose what little rights they may still possess.

A good quote from Winston Churchill - "If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival. There may even be a worse case: you may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves."

Why the hell would you consent to let them search your car?! They CAN'T search it if you don't get out of the car and grant them permission. Just keep your doors closed and say "I do not consent to searches." They have to have reasonable suspicion of illegal activity, and that cannot be based on appearances, which is called profiling.

they asked me to search once on the interstate and I said no. They then said a drug dog was coming. They brought the dog and it "indicated" on the car (this car has never had marijuana or any other drugs in it). They then searched all my shit. And found nothing. And did not apologize for delaying me when I was 1 hour away from my home at the end of a very long trip.

Assholes!

I wish more people would take notice of me and my satanic rituals. It's discouraging trying to make friends with other alternative people and they think you look too square to be one of them.

If one of your friends told you to jump off a bridge would you do that too? LOL

Walt