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The canopy could be very lightly loaded and/or the slider might not be the right size and/or the lines could be too long and/or something else, I forgot what it was though.

Let us know what you mentor comes up with.

The Ace is a great canopy. Learn how it flies, you'll have fun with it.

Good luck at BD. Don't forget to pull in time.

Double check the control lines pass through the rear slider grommets and guide rings.

Have fun at BD!

The control lines do not pass through the slider or guide rings. I thought this was normal in BASE to easily correct a line over on older canopies. Will that prevent the slider from coming down on opening?

Uh, yeah, mostly.

If that is true, you have no ®mentor®

Sorry if this is a sincere post but slider up is the same as a skydive set up.

The primary driver of the slider motion is tail expansion and control line pressure on the grommets.

Slider up jumps without the control lines through the grommets will almost always result in a slow, snivelling, or stuck slider.

This mistake has caused at least one fatality that I am aware of.



Seriously, it's a very bad idea to just try to work this stuff out for yourself. I'd recommend seeking some instruction.

Proof that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.

Also please note a new/modern canopy has the same potential of opening with a line over as an old one.

This is why they call it live and learn and not die and learn.

Always a good idea to jump this shit from an airplane first to make sure it plays nice.

Damn! That was the other thing that I forgot. The control lines are THE driving force for the slider.

Thanks for your replies. Looks like we have identified the source of the problem. I will reroute the control lines through the slider and jump from a plane again to ensure this has corrected the problem. Thanks again!

Agreed about jumping from a plane first but I refer to having the control lines outside of the slider grommet's.

I am sorry but this is very, very basic information. Not just BASE basics but skydiving basics.
Anyone who has given the slightest thought about how a slider works or even how a parachute opens should be able to work it out.
In this case the OP had no idea of how a slider worked but had heard/read that the control lines need to be routed outside the grommet's for BASE. Unfortunately either his "mentor" forgot to tell him this only applies to slider down/off or he was to impatient to read the rest of the article/post that they were reading about the slider down line mod!.

Hence a little knowledge is a dangerous thing.



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Julian

If nothing else have a rigger check your work.

Gear fear is a great way to ruin a perfectly good BASE jump.

Are you taking the piss?

How about gain sufficient knowledge before you do something that can kill you!

There are more than enough sources of information both on and off line.


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Julian

Take a deep breath jools.

Here is a guy that is already registered to jump at Bridge Day, already has gear to jump, already HAS a mentor who may have the qualifications to get this guy to the exit point at said bridge.

The least he could do is have a rigger look over his gear to tell him it is set up properly for a slider up jump.

 
Oh well, why didn't you say?
Thats all ok, absolutely nothing to worry about then.








Just to be clear are you are advocating taking 3+ second delay on his first ever base jump?


I am sure the Bridge Day organisers need muppets taking 3 seconds with a snivelling canopy due to a lack of knowledge, because they will have bugger all else to worry about on the day.

And if his "mentor" could not work out the issue with his slider in the first 10 seconds then he needs to find a new mentor because it is quite clearly a case of the blind leading the blind.

Sorry but there are to many people (especially in the UK)
doing a FJC then trying to teach their mates to jump when they don't even know the basics themselves.



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Julian

Bridge day is a shit-show of bad decision making and stupid human tricks anyway so who cares? Plus there's water down there to soften the impact.

*everybody makes mistakes. At least the OP is doing it right by buying actual BASE gear, taking the time and effort to jump it from the plane, and actually ask questions when something doesn't seem right. Have fun at BD, don't die, and make sure to get tons of gopro footage. Oh, and for christ's sake put those steering lines through the slider grommets! LOL!

I am with you on this jools.

I spent a year under my mentor asking questions, reading, packing, ground crewing, studying the BFL, jumping BASE tarps out of airplanes and mentally preparing myself for my first jump.

Is the OP in over his head? Probably.

I figure everyone else will rip him for not being prepared... I can suggest he get qualified help with rigging and maybe he will have a fighting chance.

Pack it slider down and problem solved.

From an aircraft?

I think he was talking about bridgeday

Simplicity is the key to success!

Has been done, not by me though. :) Based on first hand feedback on the experiment, I would not recommend it to anyone. But it is doable and survivable.:) Also I know at least 2 cases where people have taken a slider down rig to full terminal from a cliff and both ended up fine.

Fine meaning alive or fine meaning without injuries?

I'm also aware of another case where taking a slider down rig to terminal resulted in serious injuries.

Based on the available information, which isn't enough for any statistically valid conclusions, I'd say it's sightly safer than playing Russian Roulette with 3 loaded chambers.

I'll leave that to you young guys who are still bullet proof.

Fine meaning alive and no major injuries. Still, I would absolutely not recommend trying this on purpose to anyone just because one random guy lived through it.