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I have a Velcro rig where the shrivel flap bridle comes out the top 18" and out the bottom 8".

If you fix the shrivel flap bridle to the p/c bridle via larks head and tuck the knot under the side flap (as you would if you stowed the p/c) it seems like an issue if you pitch head high.

It looks like someone did some work to the shrivel flap at some point so I don't know if they inverted the bridle or if this is original configuration but my other Velcro rig has a continuous bridle from top of canopy through shrivel flap all the way to the p/c and seems safer.

Additionally, as long as you don't allow the knot under the side flap it extracts cleanly.

Thoughts?

I wouldn't tuck the lark head under the side flap...ever. While it would probably pop out fine if you took a solid delay, I'd keep it to hand helds and staticlines with that set up (bridle unstowed/straight to flap). But I don't know much about these parawidgets... good luck.

From what I can see it looks pretty damn original to me. How about not tucking the knot that far in ?

My bridle coming out of the bottom of the shrivel flap is about five inches long, on the bridle(going to the pc) just past the larks head is a piece of velcro. On the rig, on top of the BOC, at the opening is the other piece of velcro. I use this for going stowed. For hand held, the bridle comes straight up from the bottom of the flap and is tucked in at my shoulder. For S/L, it just hangs there.

Wow is Velcro so old-school now ? there is know one you know with a Velcro Rig or know one around to show you ?
Did you buy Velcro Rig used or New & never jumped it yet ?
hard to believe that Gear has truly gone full circle in knowledge like this . When the Circle of knowlege is 10 year circumference .
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Show me what?

I can't even speculate how many jumps this rig has on it in this configuration.

It is new to me but I have jumped it stowed. Aside from not pushing any more bridle under the side flap than I had to I never gave it a thought.

It seems to me that a pitch from a head high position could cause a hesitation or worse.

I just wondered what you fine people thought.

I'm not the last person jumping a velcro rig am I?

No.

If I was worried about it I would probably grab a friend and a spring scale and test the static forces needed to remove the larks head from under the side flap. And if I was happy with those figures then I'd remind myself that the snatch forces of the PC should be much more dynamic. But ultimately, I wouldn't make a final decision based on chat-room information.

it's unbelievable to me to.
Isn't this the reason Dennis put a small patch of velcro on the bottom r.side flap of the Vision. To attach the bridle to and to keep the cluster of shit out of the way?
How long ago was that?

was just wondering if you have no local jumper with a Velcro Rig for example or more knowledge than you on packing & bridal routing a Velcro Rig that could show you ' Live ' and not internet rigging advice .

You definitely Don't need 8" of webbing hanging out the bottom of the Shrivel Flap to hitch the PC .
you only need just enough to hitch them together like about 3" would be better . It will work with 8" like you have but it is not as clean .

EASY fix for you . just cut the stitch on top the Shrivel Flap that is Tacking the Webbing/bridal running threw the inside of the Shrivel Flap . Then slid it up to remove the extra length . Then Re-Tack it to the Top of Flap .
Or just mail it to me & I will fix it for you for nothing but Postage .


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Ya I remember on Dennis Rig that i think he put a piece of Velcro for a tab connection right where the PC bridal is looped and bar-tacked just above where they knot together .

That one Shrivel Flap he had in the OP's Pic. very well could have been rebuilt & refreshed with new Velcro by anyone . then the webbing might have been tacked back long in length from what was originally done .
Pretty common to rebuild a Shrivel Flap Velcro before a few hundred jumps on it ,
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You're just saying that so you don't feel so old

Hey ! . Growing old is not as bad as you think . For some, 10 years of BASE is more than double the life span of some .
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I also have a Perigee II with the same bridal configuration. On low jumps that have been head high ( or even normal belly down) and the knot tucked in I have definitely had a lot more of a hesitation when compared to other jumpers here with two pin containers (P-pro, Zak 2). I usually have to now keep the knot hanging out and prime the velcro a little just to open a little sooner. But for terminal jumps I do tuck in the knot.

I do the same thing with my Perigee Classic. I've had no noticeable problems.

If you know you are taking a short delay and going head high, just leave the knot untucked. Medium to terminal delays should be ok to tuck the knot. Just don't shove it up the side flap as far as it will go.

With a geared up inside climb and an elevator cable riding up my back side I prefer not to have the bridle exposed.

I have a Wizard velcro rig also and the bridle is one piece from end to end. No knots. Much cleaner.

why must you climb with exposed bridle?

keep it tucked, upon reaching the exit point, pull the knot free (if you so desire). "priming" activities can be hazardous when done too early!

I remember climbing a ladder with someone above me and having his pilot chute land on top of my head. I thought he must be a dufasm then mine got snagged out too.

Ha... I have had a pilot chute containment issue before as well.

Nothing like dragging your p/c through and over a bunch of sharp pokey stuff for three hundred feet and then asking it to flawlessly pull your last chance at life out of a bag in less than two seconds and.... oh yeah it's dark so you can't get a good look at it to see if it's still a p/c to begin with. Good stuff.

Additionally, I was out the other night and my buddy pulled his rig out of the stash bag at exit and dropped the p/c through a hole in the grate... dark of course... all you hear is that signature p/c opening sound. I think we both pooped a little. Luckily, I grabbed the mess and he kept pins from popping and we both lived happily ever after.

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that's why on snag potential inside climbs, i push my PC mostly or completely inside the BOC. i've seen way too many premature openings.