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http://www.eenews.net/...eenwire/2012/01/24/1
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Re: [base428] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
I like the article. It actually seems well balanced for a change.
Also very nice to hear that the local non-NPS residents agree that victimless crimes aren't all that heinous. And mad props to the reporter for quoting one of my posts and doing so without changing the meaning of what I meant :)
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Re: [vid666] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
How does NPS get information that a load of jumpers is planning a jump on said date?

Was that load organized here?

Is big brother watching?

Do I need more tinfoil to cover the roof of my house?
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Re: [sky4meplease] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
PM sent.
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Re: [base428] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
That link gives an error saying its not available.

And this one http://www.eenews.net/...2012/01/24/archive/1 requires login. Is it available without login?
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Re: [Arvoitus] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
i get same thing but this is what I think they are referring to . scroll down just a little for title of story .
it gives brief story but you have to Do a Log-In for total written article to be seen .

http://www.eenews.net/gw/2012/1/24
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Re: [gauleyguide] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
gauleyguide wrote:
PM sent.

Wanna pm me that pm? Wink
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Re: [Arvoitus] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
The article was apparently removed.......or moved to the subscription portion of their site.
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Re: [base428] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
base428 wrote:
The article was apparently removed.......

Probably got some negative reaction from the locals. I read the article before it was taken down and to me it had the flavor of, "We're the federal government and we know what's best for you."

That's a slap in the face to the people who proudly call West Virginia their home.

Walt
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Re: [waltappel] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
I felt it was odd (or intentional) to lump BASE jumpers in the same article as those who commit suicide. Actually, I didn't really understand why this type of article was being written in the first place, which is why I never responded to the reporter's attempts to interview me a few weeks ago.

The NPS ranger featured in the article (Randy Fisher) seems like a decent guy to me and he is, indeed, simply doing his job. Staking out the landing area in the middle of the night waiting on jumpers is, however, quite extreme and a disappointing waste of government resources. Legal catwalk jumping, which would alleviate this problem altogether and put $ in their pocket, has been discussed quite a bit during the last few years. We even went as far as setting up the first legal weekend of jumping last year (Labor Day), only to see it get put on the back burner.

I also got a chuckle out of the comment that jumpers should be happy with the one day a year we get to jump legally. I doubt that Randy would be content with kayaking only one day a year. Wink
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Re: [base428] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
base428 wrote:
I also got a chuckle out of the comment that jumpers should be happy with the one day a year we get to jump legally.

How do they not understand how much more dangerous that is? I mean, by how much would incidents increase if all BD jumpers only jumped once a year? It's speculation, but it seems pretty logical that there would be higher potential for more, or more severe incidents.
$0.02
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Re: [base428] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
Article was moved to the subscription part of the site.

I signed up for a free trial.

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Anyone have an archive they would like to post here?
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Re: [tdog] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
here's Google cached version
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Re: [vid666] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
vid666 wrote:
here's Google cached version
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/...amp;client=firefox-a

I have the text saved. Am I allowed to repost a news story without their permission. They did quote me without permission, only seems fairLaugh

I thought it was a really well done story.
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Re: [Halfpastniner] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
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John McArdle, E&E reporter

NEW RIVER GORGE NATIONAL RIVER, W.Va. -- A sign at the New River Gorge Bridge vividly tells just how much space separates the steel span from water below.

Stack two Statues of Liberty on top of the Washington Monument, it says, and there is still 20 feet to spare beneath the arch bridge that is the third highest bridge in the United States.

But 876 feet means something else to Ranger Randy Fisher, who learned the bridge's heart-racing metrics during six years patrolling New River Gorge National River.

A parachutist goes from bridge to ground in 30 to 50 seconds. And a jumper without a parachute reaches bottom in eight seconds. Flat.
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Randy Fisher, a ranger at New River Gorge National River, is responsible for patrolling the river and the 876-foot bridge that stretches across it. Photo by John McArdle.

Over the past two months, Fisher, whose office is on a windy plateau a few hundred yards from the north end of the bridge, has seen a spike in both types of jumps. That includes four illegal parachute jumps, two suicides and, on Jan. 12, an attempted suicide that closed the bridge during a five-hour standoff.

"They can happen at any time, either one of them," Fisher said in an interview in his patrol truck as he drove over the bridge on a recent rainy afternoon. "But I would hope that especially after these last two months things will slow down."

Fisher's love of whitewater is what led him to become something of a law enforcement specialist on the extreme sport of BASE jumping.

BASE stands for buildings, antennas, spans and earth -- four fixed objects that serve as makeshift diving platforms for jumpers. The sport is generally considered to be more dangerous than skydiving because the shorter distances leaves no time to deploy a backup parachute if something goes wrong.

Fisher has never tried base jumping and he probably never will. But about 10 years ago the athletic 6-foot-1 former Army infantry specialist got hooked on whitewater kayaking during a posting at Zion National Park in Utah.

Kayaking led him to look for jobs at whitewater hot spots. And six years ago, when a posting opened at New River Gorge National River -- whose 70,000 acres include parts of three rivers and some of the best kayaking runs in the country -- Fisher leaped at the chance.

He landed in a BASE-jumpers' paradise.
'Very active BASE buster'

The New River Gorge Bridge is only the most famous of several BASE-jumping "exit points" here, including three other bridges and a selection of antenna towers.

The bridge is maintained by West Virginia's Department of Transportation, but the land under the bridge -- including potential landing zones for BASE jumpers -- is overseen by the National Park Service.

And since BASE jumping is illegal in national parks, Fisher and the other 17 rangers at New River Gorge are well-versed in Section 36 of the Code of Federal Regulations, which prohibits "illegal air delivery." The code was developed by the National Park Service to prosecute BASE jumpers.

Fisher has been involved in all but one of the BASE jumping incidents that authorities have thwarted or made arrests on at New River Gorge Bridge over the past six years.

According to an incident report filed by the Park Service last month, Fisher came across information that a group of BASE jumpers from Ohio, Kentucky and Indiana were planning a moonlight jump on the evening of Dec. 10. That night he and his fellow rangers staked out the bridge, and though BASE jumpers were able to get around the fences protecting the catwalk underneath the bridge deck and make their leaps, the four jumpers and their get-away driver were busted not long after landing near a CSX railroad track that runs under the bridge.

Before his patrol last week, Fisher showed off the thousands of dollars' worth of parachutes and gear confiscated during the Dec. 10 incident that now sits in an evidence room not far from his desk in the ranger outpost next to the bridge. It is the same place where Fisher has stored evidence from his other BASE jumping investigations over the past six years, which have netted 15 arrests or citations.

As he continues to show up on Park Service incident reports at the bridge, Fisher has developed something of a reputation in the BASE jumping community.

"The noble Randy Fisher has been a very active BASE buster," a critic wrote in a forum on basejumper.com in the wake of the December incident. "What a waste of resources."
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Fisher and other rangers have to ward off parachutists and other jumpers from the New River Gorge Bridge. Photo by John McArdle.

Added another: "This sucks for everyone involved. Good to know some rangers got to pretend to be real cops for once. I know I will sleep safer tonight knowing these dangerous criminals were properly cited for such heinous crimes."

In nearby Fayetteville, at the popular pizza restaurant Pies & Pints, general manager Angie Bard summed up the tension between the local law enforcement and the BASE jumping community.

"Technically, it's illegal," said Bard, who poured beer from a local brewery, Bridge Brew Works, during her shift on a recent weekday evening. "But nobody cares about them. They don't hurt anybody."

Jerry Long, who works for the local ambulance service and had stopped by that night for a few slices of pizza, shrugged his shoulders and added, "If they're crazy enough to jump off the bridge."

Earlier that day, as he drove the winding road that used to be the only way to get down the gorge and across the New River before the bridge was built in 1977, Fisher said he is simply doing his job in upholding park law. Despite what some anonymous posters say about him on the Internet, his life's obsession is not to torment BASE jumpers.

"We have a lot of other things we'd like to concentrate on," he said. "Stuff that's actually protecting the park. Doing boundary work, the cultural resources, the archaeological resources, spending more time on the river and watershed. It would be a much better use of time."
Handshake to handcuffs

Between the railroad and kayaking and whitewater rafting routes beneath the bridge, Fisher said it just would not be feasible to simply legalize BASE jumping at New River Gorge.

"As a land manager, that's up to us to manage a park that's going to benefit everybody," he said. "We can't just legalize everything just because someone wants to do everything."

But because the New River Gorge Bridge has become such a destination for the jumping community over the years, the National Park Service has been offering BASE jumpers a compromise for the past 32 years.

Each year, on the third weekend of October, the NPS allows BASE jumpers a six-hour window to make legal jumps. The event, the focus of the annual Bridge Day festivities, has earned a reputation as the largest one-day BASE jumping event in the world.

"For one day out of every year, we're completely immersed in BASE jumping," Fisher said.

Last year, 421 jumpers participated in Bridge Day, making a total of 750 jumps. The Park Service and other federal law enforcement groups are all involved in the event and provide swift water rescue teams, security and onsite emergency medical assistance. The jumps themselves are coordinated by a private group.

In his five Bridge Days, Fisher has seen three jumpers hit the water before their parachutes could fully deploy. One died from his injuries. Two other participants have died since the event was first held in 1980.

Despite the danger, Fisher said he enjoys the annual festival in part because he gets a chance to interact with the BASE jumpers, who are all outdoor enthusiasts like himself. The problem, he said, is that some participants have not been content to leap just one day each year.

"You can be right here and say thanks for coming to Bridge Day, and the next day putting them in handcuffs," Fisher said.

That is what happened in 2008, after a group of Bridge Day participants from Florida decided to stick around for a follow-up jump from the nearby Glade Creek Bridge the following day.

Fisher said that there is no way to know for sure, but he expects that illegal jumps are happening every month at the bridge. And he questions if Bridge Day isn't undermining efforts to keep BASE jumpers off the bridge the rest of the year.

"We're saying, we are providing legal jumps, but keep it within the guidelines," Fisher said. "All we ask is that you leave us alone the rest of the year."
'It comes in waves'

There is a little-known fact about suicides at New River Gorge Bridge. Because the span is 3,030 feet long but the river below is less than 200 feet wide, most who commit suicide by jumping don't die by hitting the water. They hit rocks and trees.

It usually makes for gruesome recovery operations for Fisher and his fellow rangers.

In Fisher's time at the gorge, about 20 people have committed suicide from the bridge. He has been a part of many recovery efforts.

The most recent suicide was a 33-year-old California man who leapt the night of Dec. 29. A Virginia woman threw herself to her death on Dec. 6 at approximately 4 p.m.

Fisher said most jumpers tend to drive in from out of state, and the holidays are usually the time when suicides are most likely.

"It comes in waves," he said. "When the recession hit, we saw a wave."

Before the two suicides last month, New River Gorge Bridge had gone nearly two years without a successful attempt.

But if Fisher has become notorious among BASE jumpers, he has distinguished himself in suicide prevention.

Certified by the FBI in crisis negotiation, Fisher has a simple rule for dealing with jumpers.

"If they are still standing there [when he arrives] they are not fully committed to it," Fisher said.

Which means he's got a chance to save a life.

That was the case in September 2006 when Fisher and a local police officer responded to a call about a man standing on the side of the bridge.

Fisher and the police officer were able to get the man talking. And at one point, when the man reached down to pick up a phone that Fisher had put on the ground, Fisher and the fellow officer tackled the would-be jumper.

It was a dangerous move since the ranger and officer might have gone over the railing. The two received citations from the West Virginia Legislature and then-Gov. and now U.S. Sen. Joe Manchin (D). Today the two awards hang over Fisher's desk in the ranger station.

"When a car pulls over on the bridge we assume the worst," Fisher said. "Sometimes it's just a guy with a camera and it's a huge relief."

But sometimes it is a situation like the one Fisher experienced the day before Thanksgiving in 2009.

That day, Fisher was in his truck making his regular patrol when the vehicle two cars in front of him suddenly stopped on the bridge.

"A female driver got out of the driver side," Fisher recalled. "She was on a cell phone and then threw the cell phone off the bridge."

Fisher was out of his truck within seconds.

"She looked at me and said, 'Don't stop me.' She was about 4 feet from the guardrail."

That's when Fisher decided to go for the taser gun he carries on his hip.

It was a good shot. The woman dropped to the road short of the railing.

If Park Service officials can stop a jumper, as was the case last Thursday after the five-hour standoff, they are transported to the hospital in Beckley for an evaluation by a mental health commissioner.

Fisher said he has never had the chance to later talk to a would-be jumper that he's been able to stop, but he has had members of their families thank him.

"Several of the people he's dealt with have gone on to have productive and happy lives," said Jeff West, Fisher's boss and the chief ranger at New River Gorge National River.

In the wake of the two recent successful suicides, Fisher said there has been a renewed push in the community to add additional measures to deter would-be jumpers at the bridge. But West said any decision about additional measures would be up the state Department of Transportation, the bridge's owner.

West said the effectiveness of suicide barriers is debatable. Those who really want to jump, he said, will find a way.

Besides he said, "the expense is pretty tremendous, and West Virginia is not a rich state."

And so it is likely that Fisher and his fellow rangers will continue to have to include body recoveries as part of their job profile at New River Gorge.

"I worry about every single one of my rangers, not just Randy," said West, who said the park offers counseling services to rangers.

"Every single one of them has to pick up body parts from suicides. Everybody sees that. ... But what they don't see are the rangers who end up dealing with these folks' families. That's one of the things that rips people apart."
'I never hate the bridge'

As the rain began turning to sleet and snow and the winds picked up during his patrol, Fisher pondered what his life would be like if he didn't have the New River Gorge Bridge.

"It's a mixed blessing. It generates a lot of workload for the rangers here and then ironically it's not even a National Park bridge," he said.

But the bridge is a beloved state icon.

"It's on the beer here, it's on the quarter," Fisher said. "If you live around here, the bridge is just something everyone talks about."

He paused.

"I never hate the bridge," he said. "I wouldn't mind if I didn't have to work a lot of these incidents. If the incidents weren't there, I wouldn't miss it."
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Re: [base428] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
Fisher wrote:
Between the railroad and kayaking and whitewater rafting routes beneath the bridge, Fisher said it just would not be feasible to simply legalize BASE jumping at New River Gorge.

Could this opinion be based on the costs and risks of rescue that the park service might endure if they had to pluck every 5th jumper out of the water? If that's the case, I kind of think Bridge Day is pretty bad argument on behalf of the BASE community.
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Re: [Halfpastniner] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
maybe you should pm that pm to me too.
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Re: [OuttaBounZ] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
We have our own water rescue.

OuttaBounZ wrote:
Could this opinion be based on the costs and risks of rescue that the park service might endure if they had to pluck every 5th jumper out of the water?
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Re: [Twoply] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
ditto!
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Re: [OuttaBounZ] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
OuttaBounZ wrote:
Fisher wrote:
Between the railroad and kayaking and whitewater rafting routes beneath the bridge, Fisher said it just would not be feasible to simply legalize BASE jumping at New River Gorge.

Could this opinion be based on the costs and risks of rescue that the park service might endure if they had to pluck every 5th jumper out of the water? If that's the case, I kind of think Bridge Day is pretty bad argument on behalf of the BASE community.

Do they have a duty to provide that service?
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Re: [base428] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
base428 wrote:
I felt it was odd (or intentional) to lump BASE jumpers in the same article as those who commit suicide. Actually, I didn't really understand why this type of article was being written in the first place

Ah, that's easy. The whole point of the article was to give us a hint.
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Re: [base428] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
base428 wrote:
We have our own water rescue.

OuttaBounZ wrote:
Could this opinion be based on the costs and risks of rescue that the park service might endure if they had to pluck every 5th jumper out of the water?
Right, during BD. But if it were legal would the amount of jumpers sustain a full time business? I think they fear every bridge day skyjumper will come down to be cool and wind up in the water. What else would the costs be?

Edited for spelling.
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Re: [base428] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
base428 wrote:
...Legal catwalk jumping, which would alleviate this problem altogether and put $ in their pocket, has been discussed quite a bit during the last few years. We even went as far as setting up the first legal weekend of jumping last year (Labor Day), only to see it get put on the back burner.

I also got a chuckle out of the comment that jumpers should be happy with the one day a year we get to jump legally. I doubt that Randy would be content with kayaking only one day a year. Wink

Maybe buy a NP annual pass for $80 and that would cover using their "landing area". And that should cover all the other National Parks too ;)

And I'd be willing to bet that the NPS sees so many people "needing" water rescue on BD and they might think that's normal. I wonder if they realize that people try stuff that they wouldn't normally try if there wasn't water rescue readily available.
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Re: [OuttaBounZ] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
I've been asked to provide two proposals for legal catwalk jumping in the last two years. Both proposals called for one weekend of legal jumping each month during spring, summer, and fall. A jumping frequency of one weekend a month would permit a large enough turnout to fund our own water rescue while keeping the BASE addicts happy. Other probable costs to the base coordinator would include jumper transportation back to the top, insurance, landing zone fees, a few employees, and providing a cut to the catwalk tour company/DOH/NPS. We would also have to fund and install our own mini-catwalk and launch platform, which would become a semi-permanent part of the bridge.

OuttaBounZ wrote:
But if it were legal would the amount of jumpers sustain a full time business? I think the fear every bridge day skyjumper will come down to be cool and wind up in the water. What else would the costs be?
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Re: [base428] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
Well You should not hate him but just fell sorry for him . If the NPS Ranger stands guard over the bridge to arrest BASE jumpers . He strives to give himself a goal to reach & felling of self-worth in his Job . If needs to twist the written word of a law using 'Ariel Delivery' to confiscate personal property, Fine & Incarcerate people for recreational use of the Air while in the grounds of our National Parks . & If he has to mold Ariel Delivery in to any definition to satisfy successful criminal to felony prosecution of anyone he wants .
Then I guess that is all he can do to pat himself on the back & say "Good Job" & give himself a feeling of a job well done by Standing guard doing this in-trade for his government provided income . I guess that's the only way he knows how to make his way in the world . There is an Ass for every seat and he clearly chose the path of least resistance and a place for himself to park his lazy fucking Ass in employment .
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Re: [RayLosli] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
"...Fine & Incarcerate people for recreational use of the Air..." I like that... Recreational use of the air... Fun way to put it.
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Re: [illwreckyourbox] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
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simply doing his job

"Calling it your job don't make it right Boss" - Cool Hand Luke
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Re: [78RATS] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
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Fisher showed off the thousands of dollars' worth of parachutes and gear confiscated during the Dec. 10 incident that now sits in an evidence room not far from his desk in the ranger outpost next to the bridge.

Turd
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Re: [78RATS] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
I agree. He might be a nice guy but being an outdoors type himself makes him a hypocrite but busting us and saying he's just doing his job. Would he be content if he could only kayak once a year? Would he still be out in the middle of the night doing stakeouts to bust his fellow kayakers?? And then showing off their thousand dollars worth of equipment??? I wonder how well he would be 'doing his job' if the shoe was on the other foot??
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Re: [freeflyJoe] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
Very well put. They would cry a river of tears if they could only enjoy their sport one day a year
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I agree Jamer & Freefly Joe but
Smile I did enjoy our sport today, twice Wink
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Re: [jamer] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
jamer wrote:
They would cry a river of tears if they could only enjoy their sport one day a year

Haha, He would be up shits creek without a paddle.
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Re: [jamer] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
jamer wrote:
Very well put. They would cry a river of tears if they could only enjoy their sport one day a year

If the tides turned, would he sink or swim?
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jamer wrote:
Very well put. They would cry a river of tears if they could only enjoy their sport one day a year

Wait wait wait...one more.
That would cause him a boat load of disappointment.

okay, I'm done.
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Re: [OuttaBounZ] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
maybe he would abandon ship and fall in a rescue boat
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Re: [freeflyJoe] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
I wish kayaking near the bridge was a federal crime so Mr. Dickhead Ranger can experience it for himself.
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Re: [RayLosli] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
I'll throw at the NPS just what they throw at us...

INAPPROPRIATE USE OF THE RESOURCE

Waste of taxpayers money to have a Ranger police this.

Open up the catwalk so they can spot the difference between the suicide -vs- BASE jumper.

jon
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Re: [base428] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
Stellar member of society here for sure. Even the guards at the medium security jail he throws everyone in, refers to him and his posse as "Squirrel Fuckers". An overcrowded jail system and these Assholes are throwing "victimless criminals" in jail. Don't let this cross between a Weebaloe and a failed Polish special forces dropout fool anyone. Nobody likes this creep. The prosecuting attorney told him it was illegal for them to confiscate base gear. Not sure how he's getting away with that BS.
I've said for years BD should be stopped for 1 yr. without the jumpers coming out, there is no BD. All the folks who benefit should be contacted and told just what a Nightmare the NPS is to deal with. Tell them if they want us back, get their local reps to get them outta our fucking hair. It wude be a huge blow to the local economy and I'm pretty confident after 1 boycott, they'd be at the NPS office with pitchforks and torches wanting someone's head on a stick. Hopefully this Dipshit's. asking the NPS to change is like wrestling with a pig. The Pig just enjoys it. They've been trying for 30+ yrs to get this changed and every year I hear the same stupid shit about how the NPS is thinking about it. Are we really that stupid? When a big corporation is looking to bring business to an area, that don't beg the place they'd like to be at to pleeeeease let us build a plant there. No, they put it out and let everyone come to them. Only when it is decided that we as a group have far more control here than the NPS does will the situation change. In the meantime, just more sheep to the slaughter
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Re: [baronn] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
BD was canceled in 2001 after 9/11. The community was not happy when the attendance at the festival in Fayetteville did not approach that of BD.
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Re: [mojo71] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
The decision is ours. We are our own worst enemy here. Just imagine how powerful the statement would be if at BD this year, NOBODY jumped. Everybody shows, gather at the bridge and then announce that until the NPS changes policy, we won't be back. Then everyone leaves. All the vendors could have the opportunity to lynch the NPS officers and all their out of town, time and half paid buddies that just sit around for no reason. Find the Gilly clad snipers in the woods (yes, they're out there. Gotta guard against a terrorist attack ya know) and use the ropes to re-inact a scene from Pirates of the Carribean. This of course, will not happen. Too many look forward to this 1 morsel the NPS so generously doles out us. No, life will go on and the ever vigilant Randy Fischer will continue to safeguard humanity against 1 of our nations biggest threats instead of using his vast talents at the local HS busting smokers in the bathroom. A cleansing flood starts with a tiny trickle of water. Is there anyone else out there that is just totally fed up with the Randy Fischer's and NPS?
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Re: [baronn] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
Yup. I am fed up with it too.

Some of us are out there doing things and trying to make progress. I've heard people complain endlessly about the NPS but nobody has taken action. Take a look at para-alpinism.com and the Facebook page for para-alpinism. Give us a share or info on how we can improve.

Want to know the single biggest thing you can do to increase our chances of more legal objects? Be a good representative of our sport. Wear a t shirt of something BASE jumping and go volunteer to help an NPS ranger for a day. Engage positively with the curious tourists at the Perrine. Take a moment out of your day to have a conversation with the people in Lauterbrunnen.

Want to take it a step further? Go get certified for a WFR or get a fixed ropes course. The more outdoors-competent people we have, the more self-sustainable of a community we are.

You'd be surprised what over a year of positive communication with the NPS will get you. Just because we do what we want all the time doesn't mean the world works around instant gratification.

Obviously the NPS has its fair share of flaws, but we can't just keep pouting and pointing our fingers at them expecting change fighting fire with fire. The more we portray ourselves as extreme athletes doing illegal jumps on epic TV, the easier it is for them to marginalize us.
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Re: [Mitchpee] Ranger guards against 'illegal air deliveries' at iconic bridge
Admire what yer saying. Personally these are things that I feel shude be done just cause yer a decent human being. I'm sure there ARE a few decent NPS officials out there. I've only met 1. The rest have all struck me as still being pissed off about having their lunch money stolen in 2nd grade and now that they are in a position of power, every law breaker is gonna pay dearly for that. It may appear that I'm out for war but, I hate conflict. I train to end it, not start it. My #1 pet peeve is a bully. A bully with a badge is the lowest level of scum on the planet and Fischer qualifies on all counts. The time for cow-tailing is way past at this point. BD has been a 1 way street FAR too long. Time to simply take control.
PS 29 yrs swingin from a rope in the tree business. Numerous rescues of equipment, animals and people. Lots of volunteer work to many grateful folks.