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How many skydives do you have? Where's your home DZ?

By the nature of your question, I think you need to do a bit more research

 

So you have no skydiving experience?

Before everyone jumps on you - there are no fast or short routes, especially if you like staying alive.

Find your local drop zone (have a look at www.bpa.org.uk), make a tandem jump then take it from there.

A minimum of 200 skydives is usually suggested as the [b]minimum[/b] before looking into BASE - though more will certainly help you.

Good luck.

Obvious questions quite often have readily-available answers. Hence, our suggestion to do some READING before jumping on these forums swinging your dick.

And no sir, the shortest route is not better. It is, in fact, sometimes dumb.

Cheers

I try to be nice for a starter of the week (and also because you will get a lot of not so nice answers). Where do you skydive? How many skydives do you have? Based on your profile you seem to live in UK. There are HEAPS of (experienced) BASE jumpers in UK so my guess is that you are not (very experienced) skydiver or if you are, you have somehow been able not to hang around in the DZ enough to run into one of them. My suggestion is to skydive more, hang around at the DZ and get to know people (in real life) so that you do not need to look for a mentor from the internet.

Take my word for it, the people you are looking for do exist in UK. You just need to take your time to find them, make friends with them and get to know them up to the point that they are willing to show you their jumps and start helping you around.

Just kidding, I'll teach you everything you need to know. So what would you like to learn about, son?

thanks guys its easy to run other people down. big isn't it. anyways you can pull your own cord by the sounds of it. My show doesn't get shoved your direction..

However, the last time I read this website it said to look for a mentor. I don't want the short cut just the right route. Hence ask the people who have the experience. but nice to be negitive isn't it with no value..

I live miles from the club and its full of charity cases and 18 year olds.. Also I'm not about to through myself off a short telegraph pole with a bin bag and my watch for working out the altitude..

However, if it was funny and you wanted to add something that would be good. No value in negative words.. Do negative things negative things happen.. Thanks outta.. I was on the beginner forum but i was getting slated here better..

1. Learn to SKY jump
2. Learn the Basics
3. Take an FJC
4. Find a Mentor

Quite often when young people find out I BASE jump
they ask about learning to do it, ground crewing, etc.
Most are too lazy and disorganized to even show up.

Show you are worth someone investing hours and
hours of time teaching you. You have ducked this
question every time: HOW MANY SKY JUMPS???

If you have less than 100 chances are you do not
have the requisite canopy skills to safely land a
parachute in the UK Urban BASE environment.

FYI - yeah, we are being dicks but only because
you asked the same fucking question we read
every week, but you posted 3 times, poor form.

The fact you said 'pull your own cord' shows you have no skydiving experience.

Live miles from what club? The local DZ? Go make a skydive, enjoy it, then make a whole bunch more. Learn how a 'chute' works. Learn everything about everything.

The beginner forum is for just that, beginners. You are not a beginner. You are not in a position to make a BASE jump yet.

Read the countless articles on line and indeed on this forum.

Stay alive.

I will make even another nice post to try to be constructive. I attached to this post for your convenience a very easy and detailed flowchart which illustrates the steps of becoming a base jumper (which I have used before on this forums on similar threads). Please print it out, read it and follow the chart and you will see the path to follow on finding a mentor and becoming a base jumper.

It's a great journey, don't rush it. Have fun, don't bounce.

11- 3 free fall (once duck the question because I knew it wasn't going to add anything).. And you are right I don't have enough jumps..

fair enough with the rest..I'm not some part time student either though. seriously.. I was a self made millionaire by 28 and when I start something I finish it..http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/graeme-mcnay/25/bb8/5a1.. However, I've nothing to prove.. I'm not worried. Nothing I haven't heard before I'm sorry to say.

The word you are looking for is tenacity.. Try every way not the same way. I was expecting a slating back but who cares you get asked the say question every week.. may as well make it three.. got noticed?? Thanks for the constructive answer…I'm thinking of taking three weeks and blasting in a ton of jumps..But I want my own gear and someone to bounce ideas off.. You need faster or slower openings and different sizes of canopy etc etc depending on the hight etc etc and I don't want to feck about..

Oh please, please, please put me in your last will and testament, kind sir. Because if etc, etc, etc is your approach to BASE, I can retire sooner.

you got some pretty good advice so far; also, if you throw enough money at someone, sooner or later you'll find somebody to teach you. just make sure he gets you to sign a waiver first and gets it by a lawyer..

Well Hello Sir,

I did not you were a man of such means.
You would be a perfect candidate for my
special "Slutty School of BASE" program.

Seriously, fly to Florida, we will go SKY
jumping, work on your canopy skills,
video your landings, etc. Within a few
days I could get you sorted out mate.

It is amazing how fast you could learn
if you do 36 jumps in 3 days with each
of them being coached, videod, etc.

At night you can learn to pack by doing it
a dozen times or so, plus ground crew me.

Next we fly to Idaho, you do bridge jumps,
see if you like BASE, if so next we go jump
some low antenns, then some highers one,
eventually your B and E followed by your
submission for a BASE number.

Of course, in all honesty, this is more like
paying a woman to fuck you instead of
being charming, funny & buying drinks.

However, nothing is free, everyone pays,
it is just that most do it over a long time
using beer, effort, friendship, etc. but
for a man of means with little patience...
well there is always a short cut for sale.

I am ready when you are

I'm confused!

The last guy who wanted to start BASE said he only needed £40.000 (or something) to start BASE.
Now we have a guy here who obviously has the dough, but still can't find a way in to BASE.

What is needed to start BASE?
Is the secret really a GoPro and a sticker on the helmet?

You have 11 skydives? How long has it taken to get that many, and why haven't you done more? If you have so much money, why haven't you done an AFF course?

Where did you make those jumps, is it the UK? If so, which DZ?

Graeme,

I removed your other two (identical) threads in Technical and Beginners.

It's bad form to spam multiple forums with identical threads. Please keep each discussion to one thread.

Apologies to everyone who had posts I removed there. Feel free to re-post here. I kept this thread because it seemed like the one with the most productive responses.

Thanks.

British?

around the world, do you think there is a larger population of professional footballers or just plain old BASE jumpers?

do you think all your tenacity and money will allow you to become a professional footballer?

both activities require skill, judgement, and some natural ability. the skill and judgement generally require time and dedication to develop. practice. skill drills.

you will earn more respect by listening, following the advice, starting to crawl by skydiving, putting in your time, etc.

oh, and negative reinforcement can be ugly, but effective. get slapped by enough women, and some guys might figure out what NOT to say. getting fired should cause someone to rethink. losing money on an investment is painful.

failure and negative reinforcement are parts of life. BASE has truly ugly possibilities, far worse than the "abuse" some find in these forums.

learn more so you can actually earn "beginner" status.

 

dude, u're killing me! greenmachine told ye' he'd teach you!

alternatively, throw your money at a surgeon and get some tits; i hear there's many basejumpers that just LOVE a good tranny!



this must be one of the best threads on bj.com EVER!

http://www.blincmagazine.com/...i/BASE_Fatality_List

Some casual reading while you are gathering information, gaining experience, and looking for a mentor.

 

well, you could practice exiting stable from the roof; if the boobs are big enough, you could probably survive it, depending on the height of the roof - i'd go that route if i were you!

BTW, i have close to 400 skydives, my own gear (sky AND base) and already a couple jumps and objects; finding a mentor is VERY hard! it's very unlikely you'll find one on this board.. just sayin'!

Hell yea! Get some nice squishy ones and I'll teach you. And you can keep your money.

i just KNEW someone was gonna jump on that!

any idiot can kick a ball, throw themselves out of an airplane, or off a bridge. true enough. so?

to have reasonable assurance of survival, you need skills and talent. you are demonstrating zero interest in developing the former, and until you do, no one knows about the later.

arrogance and cockiness have killed or maimed too many already.

most people share information to be helpful, not profit. thus if they tend to remain quiet, unless they like you. this "bull in the china shop" approach won't attract positive attention from the people best suited to helping you.

you are expecting far more respect than you are offering.

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there is an outfit that once took people on a tandem jump off a bridge. I assume they are still in business. you might approach them. if you poke around and use the search feature, I'm sure you can find more information.

If you have to $$$ you can go from a non-jumper to the Eiger in only 90 days I hear.

Guys sorry if I've been coming across as arrogant or cocky. I was asking a civil question and been slated all day. If I didn't respect what you did I wouldn't what to do the same.. If you read the thread I've had everything questioned including my sexuality. I'm not worried or insulted. If it would have been the other way round I wouldn't have been hope you die and bounce.. Experience doesn't give anyone the right to rip into people who havent. Thanks to all the positive responses and the various offers (lol). You will be saying I'm crazy for wanting to jump off things with a parachute next... Enough said gents.. Respect..

this is a "tough love" crowd.

carrying out a battered friend, getting arrested, losing your job, etc. does that to people. most experienced jumpers have several friends on the Base Fatality List.

we experience a constant stream of newbies who don't lurk this site, read any articles, or put in any effort. thus they appear absolutely clueless and want everything handed to them on a silver platter. most smell like accidents waiting to happen.

heck, many can not even understand the jargon.

skydiving is the gateway activity. it teaches all about equipment, jargon, as well as basic survival skills. many can't handle it, and thus will never be ready for BASE.

sadly, most think they ARE the unique, special one that can bypass all the effort and hard work that gets recommended.


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oh, and nothing in this thread is new. if you had read and lurked a few weeks, the dynamic would not startle you. remember, lurking and reading threads is the internet version of listening before one speaks. it can prevent untold misunderstandings.

When you keep asking the question and you keep getting the same answer from people who've been there, done it and know what they're talking about... at what point do you start to realise it might actually be the right way?


Ah fuck it then, I'll teach you. Make me an offer.

i thought this pic was kinda matching..

Greetings.

I read some of this thread, and the others before they were deleted.

If you really do want to base jump, you should really consider taking time to skydive a few hundred times before considering it. Even researching it before you've done a few hundred jumps, can become depressing, or even pointless, since few people will actually help by taking you with them.

If you happen to be buds with a BASE jumper, you'll probably be able to go do ground crew. What I mean by ground crew is usually just go watch. I almost never actually need ground crew. Occasionally I do but if I'm going to share a building with you, even though you're not jumping it, I need to believe you're going to keep your mouth shut.

Things to consider.

Riding an R1 at speeds does nothing for canopy control. If you're truly proficient at motorcycle riding, (not cruiser riding, that may be fun for some but it doesn't count in this context) it will help with stress management and subsequently can assist speed up the learning process in freefall.

Some reason, beyond understanding target fixation, it doesn't do an awful lot for canopy control.

I have a new skydiving friend who's a top notch accomplished stunt rider. It's what he does. He's doing rather well in freefall. His initial canopy control was a bit lacking to say the least. He eventually got over pounding in and flaring too high, just like everyone else. The good thing about this person, he's old enough to know what hurts. He's anxious to get into base however he's paid close attention to what he needs to do. I'd prefer taking him out and teaching him rather than just having him do a perrine trip with limited guidance.

The reason I bring that up is, you're not going to get a lot of help unless you put the right time in. If you came to my area with dedication to learn to fly your parachute first, I'd personally help you (assuming we liked to hang out together in the first place). It's not exactly convenient to come fly with me so chances are, just put the time in and it will happen.

People ask me all the time to take them base jumping or to show them a base jump. Occasionally, they actually want to do it, have or get some canopy experience and choose to purchase gear.

I have jumped with Drs, Lawyers, FBI agents, stoners, students, mechanics... you get the idea. It simply doesn't matter. I don't care who you are that much. I just have to be able to trust that you have my back since I have yours.

- Skydive
- Practice real canopy control
- Understand you don't actually know what you're doing yet
- Believe that riding an R1 does little except help with stress management.
- Learn rigging skills

I've jumped with people who've had under 100 skydives before. It was nerve wracking to watch them fly a parachute. Thank the good lord baby jesus, it was at the Perrine.

(BTW, I thought Ghostrider was arrested, not dead, are you sure he's dead?)

Ok,

How much and when?

2nd week feb? Let's talk. Can't in march.. So has to be before... Seriously...

ya one week should be plenty

The real Swedish ghost rider died in 2005..

Ok, one last time...

Where did you do those skydives, how long did they take you to do and why haven't you made any more?

Seriously, skydive. Make lots and lots of jumps. You'll be able to get lots of 'cool' video you can post up on the internet to show your friends how bad ass you are. Dont worry, most people have no idea about BASE or the difference between it and skydiving, so you'll be able to get away with it.

Just curious.....If your a self made millionaire, with plenty of options for getting your thrill seeking fix, why BASE?

Can't be arsed with the grief.. Your excuse..

I've been getting grief and slated since I got on this mate sorry.

No coward mate.

how does one become a millionaire with communication skills as poor as yours. hell, even your writing is hard to read!

oh, and most jumpers i know are "cowards" in some way or another, most dont even like heights!

By texting on the phone and not being afraid of hights.. Lol. Not always taking things out (real reason- you employ the best people you can find, trust them to a good job and don't worry about it).

employ the best people you can find

Well then sir there are two things you should
know right up before even we get started:

1) There are plenty of better BASE jumpers out
there, several right there in merry old England.

2) There are many much more experienced BASE
instructors out there, I can provide you a list.

Nonetheless, I will send you a PM with details,
questions, and my Paypal account, in short
order we will find out if this for real or not.
______________________________

Side Note: I have 3800+ total jumps with 323
of them being BASE jumps, most of them on the
low side, and I am still afraid of heights!!

Just like Troy D. is still afraid of poisinous snakes
although he is licensed to own and handle them.

The moment you no longer give something the
respect it is due, well that is when you get bit.

Or appear to so lazy to try to take an easy route or shortcut that does not exist. Becoming a BASE jumper is an incredible force of will. There are no easy ways to become a jumper that does not break himself before even making 50 jumps.

Is he dead... noone (outside his circle) really knows. I think he is though. I think he was the TT racer "iceman".

http://riot-reporter.blogspot.com/2007/06/real-ghost-rider-part1.html

And for those who don't know who he is...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KwicTKbWam4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xM18G8_o45I

Listen mate it'd the exact reason I am. Path of least resistance in the shortest period of time. Surely better to have a consistent build up and Have it all fresh rather than stop and start and spread over a longer period?? I want the test of will bit.. looking over the edge controlling the fear? It took five years of commitment and sacrifice of relationships and all the rest of normal life stuff.. to get right people and size of business to have the critical mass to allow me to get to that point where I come across as lazy or whatever poor opinion you have.. I have numerous patents and products that I designed. On average it takes 10 man years (normal working time) for a new product etc. (you speed that up by adding more people or fitting in the extra time yourself. That would be the time normal 20 year olds are still wondering what they want to do with there lives. Your right too though there isn't a way to cheat. The idea is to get to where you need to be in the shortest possible period of time. Trying every way in the shortest period of time while managing risk and effort?? The most important thing with achieving anything is isn't the goal but the execution of the plan to get to that point.

i do know of a couple people that started base with 0 skydives. but they're pg-pilots with 1000's of hours. so it IS posible. but i still dont really see a shortcut anyway!

Ok that might be a bit of a long way of saying. 50 jumps the same or 50 increasingly more difficult jumps while keeping the time between each short as possible?

It doesn't work that way. It's a mixture of time in the sport and currency. You don't seem to listen. I've been doing this for almost 20 years now and I know what I'm talking about. You don't.

You're not any more driven than the rest of us. For example, I have a doctorate in atomic physics. I designed a plasma containment device when I was 16. Does that help in showing drive? It's a conceited attitude to have when asking for help. This thread should go to the BASE for Begineers section. It's a waste of time here for experienced jumpers to even read this garbage. I'm going to cease reading this thread. It's dumb to debate with a clod.

By saying plasma containment device, do you mean a candle, a microwave and a glass jar? If that's the case, then I designed a plasma containment device when I was 14

Genuine question for you:

Why do YOU want to BASE jump? Do you just want to make one jump, or do you want to make many?

Again, how long has it taken to make those handful of skydives, where did you make them, and why aren't you doing your AFF?

P.s. I don't appreciate PMs like that when I'm one of the few actually trying to help you.

I think this guy is really BASE 75, just messin' with us

PuSSIYES biG!!

Anyways thanks for your input. I want to know how to get to a stage in the shortest period of time .. Please no more lectures.. Do you think I'd be wasting my time if I wasn't serious? It was in the beginners section but was deleted as the moderator thought this one was funnier. So please don't waste your time giving me a hard one.. I'm doing this in the shortest and safest period of time. G ;)

WAIT I think he got it......nope ....nevermind

I'm pretty much convinced that you are either retarded, drunk, or just flat out fucking with everyone....but on the chance that you are actually this confused about everything in life then let me offer you my services.

First as a mentor of course, because with all my 35 BASE jumps I must seem way more skilled than a pro footballer.

and second, I will gladly oil up your fake tits on the exit point and give your ass a hearty slap before you exit head low into something more dense than your own squishy body.

...or you could just buy some gear and skip the mentor thing. Really all you need is youtube and a couple gopros anyway. Thats something the experienced guys like to keep a secret.

Why not answer my questions?

Ok, time to chime in on this junk show...

You really are a clod. You come here asking people that do the sport that you wish you could do for advice. You don't like the advice and choose not to listen. Your lack of ability to think critically and hear something you don't want to hear makes you a dangerous person. The kind of person that refuses to be flexible is the person that makes stupid decisions BASE jumping, gets hurt and or killed and puts the people that jump with them in bad situations.

I've seen a whole variety of people get into jumping. The people that rush into it are obvious. Skills and knowledge take time to build. Slow is fast...You'll end up having to go back and relearn all the things you didn't know you didn't know.

Don't do it it greenmachine! If you do, you better charge him 50G's!

because hes taking the shortest and safest way possible... I think its shorter not to answer... and safer for his ego.

I think it would be even funnier if we just blacklist him, all the money in the world wont help him. you know the saying "money cant buy happiness" well lets show this asshat that he can't just buy his way into base. ethics first! this dousher hasnt shown one bit of respect for our sport or the ones who died for it. fuck this guy and anyone who wants to help him. if you want to join us put in the time. dont ask for a handout there is no fast/easy way period. short of oiled up squishys

Bungee jumping

http://www.basejumper.com/...s/Getting_Into_BASE/

They come and they go.

Knee-high boots should be required on this site.

Here is a few examples just in the last 6 months or so. Pure entertainment.

http://www.basejumper.com/...;;page=unread#unread

http://www.basejumper.com/...;;page=unread#unread

http://www.basejumper.com/...;;page=unread#unread

http://www.basejumper.com/...;;page=unread#unread

http://www.basejumper.com/...;;page=unread#unread



My personal favorite.
http://www.basejumper.com/...;;page=unread#unread

Done a bungee.. Thanks guys. Gx

And the reason you're not skydiving is...?

I'm going for one on saturday. Anyways, mate I've had some constructive help from some other members. Thanks. G

What kind of jump will you be doing? Tandem?

No, you've had people tell you what you want to hear to wind you up.

One? Why not do a few more in say an AFF course? Then make a couple hundred more?

You say you want the fastest and safest way - making 200 skydives before looking at BASE is the fastest way, so why wont you do it?

if he's so stinking rich as he says, two months in perris and he'll EASILY have 200 skydives; and maybe a couple hours in the tunnel too!

Not saying I won't.. ? If that's what it takes. Why tough love...

I am not talking to you. I am suggesting that those who are offering you advice are juts wasting their time.

You go kill yourself any way you wish. There will be another eager fuckbag making posts nearly identical to yours in a weeks time.

have a good day, don't forget to get video.

http://www.youtube.com/...&feature=related


ALL should spend 5 minutes and watch this...

Peace :)

No worries mate

 

^Jesse Jackson quote. I called it...points.

Has anybody ever wondered why Adam and Eve are always painted with belly buttons?

Are you retarded or just a troll?

Just left the hospital where I visited a friend who just broke his back SKYDIVING. I've been skydiving for not even a year and a half and the best count I have on actually watching people break themselves or friends who broke themselves is 11...12 including myself (1st and only BASE jump...guess who else was rushing it?)...and one fatality.

Your posts are insulting to people who have actually put TIME into learning the sport. If you were actually interested in putting in the time to LEARN and not post online you might not be in such a fucking rush to go jump off of something. There are much cooler ways to kill yourself or get laid up in the hospital... it seems that may be your real intent. Get help.

The good news is this... if you get your shit together and actually go about things the right way and do start actively jumping you will have people to jump with...despite these posts.

 

Same reason santa's fatass can fit down the chimney.

Ever wonder why yawning is contagious?


You yawned, didn't you..

Summed up my thoughts perfectly. The random irrelevant quotes make it seem like your on drugs or have lost your mind.

huh?

you SPAMMED the forums without bothering to read the Rules, previous posts, the Articles, etc. this demonstrated a complete lack of respect.

I could move this thread to the Beginners Forum, where it should be, but then I'd have to ask people to be kinder and gentler.

YOU have set the tone of this thread, though. you fail to listen. you ignore the wealth of experience giving you the best advice possible. thus, since you put this thread here, why should I second guess you? <sarcasm> you know so much... </sarcasm>

you have not listened to anybody else so I doubt you will listen to me but from another perspective and way to look at it here it goes
you pointed out it is the most dangerous sport true the only way to keep less people from dying is to be very protective of it and let only the most qualified and prepared in.
you have to have x number to take a course
you have to have x number to buy a rig
you cant go to a drop zone claiming you want to be a base jumper and expect to make any friends especially base jumpers
you cant make shortcuts with money other than making the recommended jumps in shorter time
you can not expect anybody you do not know really well help you out
shortcuts can be made and are being made a lot more frequently the more people that get in and are willing to show the ropes
I took many shortcut and had some of the best help me out along the way
I would not recommend it
its not just a hobby and will most likely consume most or all of you freetime
Ive been jumping a year I work 5 days a week
about 100 days of from work ive made over 140 jumps
sitting out 3 months for injury that would most likely have been avoided had I done things right
bottom line they are not just protecting you from injury and death they are protecting the sport and objects

If you still dont get it NO ONE HERE IS GOING TO HELP YOU

DAMN. I did. How does that work? Someone, please explain this shit, FAST! I'm in a hurry to know why I just fucking yawned (twice).

UPDATED PROFILE PIC! Sweet idea bro! Now I am definatley in, meet me in PA whenever you like.

Kitty corliss and this are my new favorite videos!

No, you shouldn't have. Everyone knows that when you yawn you emit an ultrasound that others hear without realizing it and then yawn. It's like a form of communication for the subconsciouses.

But I really yawned. And I feel the urge to again whenever I see that picture. Must be something sensory linking the image to my brain recalling the sound. This thread is now about yawning.

i have once heard or read the theory that back in the days, when the leader of a group yawned, that this was the sign for everybody to go to sleep; hence,once the leader yawns, it's beddy-time for everyone else.

go to fucking bed guys, this thread is over!

I used to have a coworker with the last name Yawn. I communicated with her approximately 3-4 times per week. Everytime I saw her name pop up in my inbox, I would yawn. When I got to the end of her email and read her signature line, I would yawn.

Used to make me so mad.

Come back in 10 min and read only this post, sans picture, sans ultrasounds emitted. Did you still yawn?

I was doing good until I got to the end of your post and saw the word "yawn" next to the smiley face. Damn it. I cant beat this. I'm so weak!

Look at the bright side--at least her name was not "Explosive Diarrhea" (460's term, but I like it--the term not the diarrhea).

Walt

You know you like it

He is very much alive and he is not "Iceman" who died some time ago in a roadracing accident.
He is a well known ledgend here and has done 5 Ghostrider movies.
All very good and well worth to see for any adrenaline junky.

Weird, that today of all days, for some reason, I came across this and decided to look him up, but it looks like he's done it

"Looks like he's got to take a shit."

NAILED IT!

Yep, his ass is currently cashing the checks

that his big ego wrote 18 months ago