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 Would these qualify for an S and an E?
They are a span and also earth!

Depends on the exit point. Either object could be a wall or a span.

Walt

 Would both be satisfied with one jump though, technically you are meeting the requirements for both aren't you?

That's awesome BASE in 3 objects would be fun.

IMHO, I would call it an E but not an S. My reasoning is that it is not joining or spanning two separate objects, but is rather one solid object that has a hole in it.

To get an S is fun, I would personally want to have all 4 objects under my belt before I would say I have BASE.

But to each his own, S, E, whatever... as long as its fun

+1 it's all about having fun!

There really are no hard and fast rules but the discussion that makes the most sense to me has to do with considering the geometry of an object.

For example, look at a dam. It's a wall, but does it count as an E or a B? I'd say it depends on two factors: the material it is made of and whether it is inhabited by people.

If it is man-made and inhabited by people, it's a building. If it is a naturally occurring piece of rock, then it's an E.

Looking at the geometry of natural bridges, if there is 360 degrees of clear airspace under the exit, it's a span. If you open in front of a wall, it's an E.

My opinion only, of course. Let your conscience be your guide.

Walt

then you could jump an antenna on top of a building and get base in two jumps

:-)

Or get one of these
http://columbiariverimages.com/...ridge_house_2004.jpg
http://pictures.deadlycomputer.com/...9-2/bridge-house.jpg

If you then stand on your cellphone when you jump you could log it as an antenna too

I don't really care what anyone calls their objects, but this has got to be a pretty easy one to classify. If it's man mad, it's a B, A or S; if it's natural it's surely an E.






Just don't mention Mt Rushmore

And if Trolls live under the bridge?

Not so. What about a tree? I have never heard of a tree being based but certainly there are trees tall enough.

Walt

That would be rad! There is a 380 ft tall sequoia growing in NorCal

Well, it's not a building, antenna or bridge. Personally I'd just log it as a tree (if I even logged), but for people who need to shoehorn everything into BASE then there's still only one option. And the tree I've seen jumped was been sprouting out the edge of a cliff anyway.

Remember not to bring your goats along when you jump it?

WTF?

That was my favorite book when I was a kid!!!!

Build the building and antenna on top of that cliff span thingy and you could nail them all at once.

she jumped an S and had an encounter with E.

There was a tree that was was jumped. Can't find the video but maybe someone else knows where to find it. It was in Australia.....

No actually, according to Rick, Joy and Jeane as well as other BASE creators, the object is about what your parachute OPENS at.
So jumping from a bridge opening against a cliff wall is an 'E' and can only be the one.

no way, huh?! the Royal Gorge Bridge is a SPAN!! no matter if all you see is shit your pants cliffs the second your feet leave! it's a bridge

it would be awesome if we could extend the letters of

1) B
2) A
3) S
4) E

extended to the rest of the letters of the English alphabet.

Have you ever jumped a "Z?" Well probably not.

Hey mofo, I jumped a "Q." Have you?

In some cases for jumpers who do a "Y," whuffos ask why?

V's are hard to get unless you are into ... elevators.

Think of an Arabic version of the word "BASE."

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Looks like the rescuer is in a pretty bad rap himself!

not even, that's 400' of neatly coiled rope in the litter and a small end is being tossed to the jumper. that's being lowered from an 1,100' bridge, the logistics are crazy. from wallstrike and hangup, to on the ground with paramedics was less than 30 minutes. fucking rad!

Anybody shake his hand and buy the rescuers beer afterwards, with skill like that they deserved it!

There's a funny side story while that was going on. Myself, Mick and the Pick were in the packing area up top. A woman walks up and asks us if we know where Melissa is, as it's her niece and she's jumping. The look we all look at each other and exchange some pretty interesting looks.

Yeah, I know where she is, ya see.... Actually the Pick broke her the news. Talk about bad timing, but on the plus side it was *easy* for her to find her niece. Quite a slick rescue.

_justin

I'm the High Angle Rescue Coordinator for most all Go Fast events where there's potential for a wall strike. After Dwain sat on that ledge for 7 hrs. at the 1st event, Go Fast agreed there needed to be a more professional and expedited means of getting jumpers off the wall. Yes, everyone bought us many beers and it was a great team effort. That's Joe Grubb on the litter basket, I'm about 10' down and right out of the picture. The other boys lowering him were using the ballhitch from my Dodge pickup parked just so. Melissa was 400' above the ground and super pleased to see us.

Funny to hear about Melissas family showing up so timely, those Go Fast Games were priceless! Invite only and 3 FULL days of jumping from sunup till sundown. Maybe next year.

edit- my original point was, she jumped a bridge not a cliff. not really sure how that could be confusing to any BASE jumper..

Its not about what you see, its about what you are opening next to. and NRGB is only a Span Bu that is not what the original question was about... :-|

Right on Mick. Every since Carl invented the word we've tried to be sort of lenient to fit qualifying jumps into one of the catagories, but only one per jump. The most important consideration that guides it is the danger at opening. The rock arch, is a span if you jump the middle, a cliff if you jumped the wall. I almost hit a wall off a 370 B in a western state in a narrow canyon, but it's still a span since you can get your canopy flying without worrying about an off heading opening putting you right into a wall. Dams present the same hazards as cliff except they are smoother and won't hang your canopy as badly so they can be either. Always exceptions, but it takes 4 jumps to get a BASE number. I don't care what you put in your log book, if you log, but for a number the jump needs to present very similar hazards on exit but especially on opening. We'll be a bit less lenient on smokestacks as B's from now on since there is no problem finding real buildings these days with gear that easily handles 250'. Anyway, I just posted on the thread about "pushing the E" if anyone is interested in more of the history around the fuzzy definitions of the 4 objects.
Cliffleaper
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Sorry, I meant a 370' Bridge, not a B on my last post.
Rick

 For posting a smart a$$ question I sure got the $h!t stirring!
Somethings to think about thought on a cold winters day!

A building must be able to occupy persons. This is not a building. I think it is less confusing than a dam. This is a TOWER all the way to the ground. Still one object.