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going to jump brento need to rent a rig.
any one that can help plz?

you can rent one from apex for about 3500 bucks

are you already a jumper?
are you taking a course?
who are you?

I think you should answer 84n4n4's questions.

I cant believe that you are experienced enough to jump ITW, You are site naming which means something special in your case. You dont have a rig. You dont know anyone in Austria who has a rig for you.

I hope the MODS will delete this thread and track your IP address to see when you reregister under a new name and block you.
Sorry to be hard on ya. Just joking.
take care,
space

my name is adi from israel
i was already half way to fjc in austria but bad luck i didnt got the money i need so my frind that i knew in one of my skydiving trips agree to take me base and teach me every thing he as is own rig but i need one for me.
but for now i have the plain ticket but dont have a rig.
my flight is on the 6th of october and depends on finding a rig.

this just sounds like a bad idea. do you even skydive?

i have 200 jumps.
i am not some stupid that want to jump a cliff
i just decided insted of a course to go with a base jumper frind.
but now beacouse i am not going to the course i dont have a rig to rent.
thats all

I am quite certain they will not give you a permit there to jump if you havent taken an approved course. What this means for you is you will need to show insurance to cover illegal activities or put up the cash for a rescue or recovery before.
Why dont you rent your friend's rig, come up with the cash or insurance and you will be on your way. I am personal friends with the Permit Office and Rescue Team there and can put you in touch when you wish.
I hope this helps.
Take care.
space

Forget what I said. It is very clear in the Law.
Here is the link:
http://www.basejumper.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1846739;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread


Here is the text:
For those of you who haven't been to the Italian Wall there is a green metal tower close to the exit point.

On this tower the rules for jumping the wall are written in 4 different languages. English, French, German and Italian.

It seems in recent times visiting jumpers are losing the ability to read (you have to walk 1/2 a metre around the tower to read the English version):

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RULES FOR AUTOSETTLEMENT FOR THE SAFE PRACTICE OF BASE JUMPING ON THE TERRITORY OF THE PROVINCE OF TRENTO

1. Be the holder of a sport skydiving licence and have done at least 300 skydives, of which at least 100 in the latest 12 months, if student. It must be considered “student” whoever jumper has not yet done at least 15 BASE jumps under the supervision of an acknowledged BASE jump instructor (*).

2. Access to BASE sites of Province of Trento having done at least 50 BASE jumps with the exception of MB where it is enough to have done 15 BASE jumps.

3. Use exclusively equipment and material SPECIFIC for BASE jumping. Do not use sport skydiving equipment, original or modified.

4. Do not jump in case of adverse meteo conditions, wind magnitude greater than 2 m/sec or insufficient visibility.

5. Always do a check-in - check-out procedure with ground crew or with other equivalent reference.

6. Follow strictly times and procedures established for the particular site, also with reference to equipment in use. For jumps from MB they are recommended the following times and procedures for freefall: not less than 7 and not more 8 seconds of vertical freefall in box position, or not less than 7 seconds and not more than 12 seconds for the jumpers capable of doing an EFFECTIVE track (at least to pass over the talus). BASE jumpers equipped with single canopy rigs shall have to do an effective track in order to pass over the talus at the base of the “Vertigine” wall.

7. Do not jump after ephemeris (sunset).

8. Once on the exit, move with extreme caution in order to avoid fall of stones.

9. For possible rescue calls, call 118.

10. In case or helicopter rescue, the canopy, if possible, shall be cut away and discarded or folded and disposed in order not to be affected by turbulence caused by helicopter rotors, avoiding so a dangerous source of danger for both the possible dragging of the injured jumper and the helicopter.


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The tower also carries the names of the people who have lost their lives jumping at MB. The site is visited by much less people than the Norwegian Fjords but there have still been 6 fatalities in the past 5 years.

Please read: http://hometown.aol.com/...e/base_fatality_list

Numbers 43, 44, 48, 58, 73, 86. Low experience level seems to have played a factor in 5 of these incidents.

Please DO NOT litter! The amount of trash at the exit point and in the packing area has gotten much worse recently.

When driving up and down the mountain always be prepared to meet oncoming traffic and sound your horn prior to the blind corners (open your window slightly to hear the reply).

Leave your car at the parking area just after SG. Do NOT try and drive your car up the forest tracks as this is forbidden.

Just felt inclined to speak before anyone flames anyone, and maybe even put some heat this direction for the hell of it.
I know I'm pretty damn new to BASE. And having never taken a FJC, nor having had the recommended amount of skyjumps when I started, I can't emphasize enough what it was like to have a good mentor. He gave me guidance, recommendations, and made it easy to ask questions.


Who is your mentor, or is your buddy fairly new as well?
I think you should ask around your DZ and see if a friend would let you use his on some sort of agreement.

in all of israel there r 3 rigs i am tring to get one.
in austria i dont know any one eccept my friend that is tring to get a arig for me too.
do you know someone?

Maybe you'll get a rig eventually...But the problem is IF you'll be able to jump there safely..To have your very first Base jump from a cliff is not a piece of cake..That's why is recommended to start first with some bridge jumps..

There have been 2 fatalities this year at this cliff..You'd better THINK twice!!

my plan is 2 weeks
first 10 jumping from a bridge with expirencd friends.
and than 4 days cliff.

my friend is not a new jumper :)

Its SUPER AWESOME to know we have experienced jumpers who can take someone with 200 skydives, and no knowledge whatsoever of single parachute systems, and create a competent big wall jumper in a mere 10 days! I'm so happy I could shit a rainbow.

Adios!

the course does it no?
or maybe you saw a 3 months FJC?
its a 10 days course.

I sense sarcasm . With that said, I think that a good mentor is the best way to gain knowledge and experience. Their interest is directly personal.

The thing is,

That considering these are your first few posts on bj.com and have under the recommended jump numbers(that most people go by).. (Although the fjc in austria asks for a minimum of 150 skydives...)

Plus you have not filled our your profile so no one knows you.

So most people will be thinking you are a troll who does not have the experience needed to jump safely,

The best thing to do is to pull aside the jumper that will be teaching you and if he is a long time jumper he will be able to find you a rig in no time..

The problem i see is that you booked your flight ticket without preparing yourself to base jump....

do you own tracking pants???

How many Go pros do you have??? (joke)

Considering that there was a fatality there with a russian jumper earlier in the year this sounds all too similiar to it and you will find it tough going there with low experience and have people helping you...


Just to let you know a 4 day base course will not let you walk away after it producing a base jumper. But i am sure you have read all the information on this website plus all the other european base site forums,

and have read the fatality list and also talked with the people you are going to italy with and meeting to risk your life with...

Just a few thoughts for you...

I am not attacking you at all just saying what i see on the forum post....

Maybe ask your basejumper friend who has been jumping for a long time to ask around....

how many 7 cell canopy flights have you made,
Hows your tracking?
Have you done anything to prepare for this base career??

If money is an option maybe you should put off your trip and start saving for next season and prepare by enlisting in a proper base school.. and not a friends school...

there is plenty of advice around these days and you dont have to go through close friends, but then again i dont know who your friend is and how many jumps he has,..

Good luck mate..

I hope i dont see anything in the incidents later on down the track...

click the link underneath this post and it will take you to some interesting information...

Enjoy

ok, i have to clarify a few things here

- this guy is not doing the austrian fjc
- his friend may be a good paragliding pilot, but without knowing him personally, i doubt he can be considered "experienced" (i could not find another austrian jumper that knows him, according to his vimeo channel he started jumping this year)


in the pm to me you mentioned the bridge near your friends place, this is a illegal bridge and should be considered as hot! also there are other jumpers doing it so if you plan on doing this one for 10 days you will burn it to the ground and will get busted.

if you are planning on doing that other pedestrian bridge 1h away you will not survive 10 days there. (seriously, you got a 10% chance of doing a few jumps there without getting hurt)

this is the reason why the austrian fjc goes to a bridge abroad.
if you find a suitable beginners bridge without risk of getting in trouble with the law in austria, please let me know, i dont know one...

sorry i had to step on this, but you try to convince people into giving you a base rig, by stating wrong information.

reading other posts here it seems i have to clarify again, this has nothing to do with the austrian fjc! (neither the guy, nor his mentor...)

every body tenku for the informaition i will take it all and think really good with my self if this is the way.
for now some of you convinced me that its better to let go for now.
i did my preperetion but dident use a traking pants so maybe its a good idea to raise the chance.
i didnt had a user so this is my firsts posts but i read all the site and every thing that i got my hand on.
i wish one of you guys that know so much will take me for my first base jumps
but we'll you?
tell me what the demends
again thenku

allright, it seems you start thinking again. as i´m an austrian local, jumping for more than 8 years, i don´t know any experienced jumpers in the area you mention. i know of some jumpers, but all i know wouldn´t take a newbie to a cliff the way you mentioned.

also think about one thing:

your first choise was to take a FJC, than bad luck fucked you and you couldn´t afford it anymore. so it seems you had a reason to choose this way.

now, cuz of bad luck, you are looking for a cheaper way to get into base. are you sure, your plan B is the way you wanna go and hit BASE? or is it just the next best option?

believe me, the next best option is the first bad one. stick to your plan, as you should later in your base career. to have a plan B which should save your ass in the case of, is allways important, but don´t use a plan B to start your career.

i hope bad luck doesn´t follow you any longer!

take care and play safe!

a.

i wish i could make you all understand what a big deal is to keep skydive in israel. i did 150 jumps of my 200 in u.s.a
in israel 1 jump with your own gear cost somthing like 50 euro!!! so 20 jumps and its the course fee
now for keeping me in form i need to do jumps
at least 5 jumps a month?
its hard to keep in shape here :)
but again i will probably not going to the trip i will lose my flight and hope for better days and maybe next year my dream will come true.

hey, look, the problem isnt the number of skydives, its the head-through-the-wall-attitude that you are stressing yourself that you have to start with base this vacation.

cant afford the course -> get a mentor

cant find an adequate mentor -> take however you know that has done a few jumps

so whats the next step?
cant get a base rig -> use a skydive rig?

do you see what i mean?

and when it comes to staying current, lets say you start base this vacation, how are you planning to stay current if you dont have your own rig?

i can just give you the advise to let this vacation pass without base jumping, use the wintertime to get your own rig (if you have a time to look around you can get a used one fairly cheap). take the course next year, or if the course is too expensive for you, try to get a mentor. (i know thats hard, but if you would come here for a course you can maybe find something closer to your home with someone willing to mentor you) and stay current once you started.

i don't have nothing to do in my contry with a base rig its sad but its true.
the only places to jump are very low and technical.
i don't want to jump low objects only a bridge for getting ready.
do you think once a year trip to base and skydive the rest of the year can keep me current?
if i will get a base rig is there a way that i can progress somehow on this trip?
or just to give up?
mentor? who will give a f*** for me?
how much affective is the course? (not sarcastic serious question)

A mentor will give a f***. You should ask and not demand. You seem to be in a hurried rush. This has death written all over it. Best IMHO is that you change your flight and go to Bridge Day, 15th Oct. They are exactly what you need. If you do this I maybe can sort you out a rig. No one will help you do ITW because of your lack of experience.

ITW is on the verge of being shut down because of inexperienced dying there. Your death there can shut it down for me and my friends. I've been going there for 16 years. High fivin at the LZ with my BASE Bros and Sistas at the LZ after landing as opposed to running to a getaway car means a lot to me.
PM me and I will do my best to help you but ITW aint happening on your trip. Also, I need the name of your friend who doesnt have a rig for you. via PM.
Take care,
space