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Washington State\Oregon
This spring I am headed west on a trip in which my fiancé would like to go to Washington state to do an ash dive for her mother who passed from cancer a couple years ago. If you recognize this place please let me know and any additional info about it. Ty.
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Re: [Menace1262] Washington State
sounds like you will have MUCH better luck on the History & Trivia forum on dz.com
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Re: [vid666] Washington State
Yeah, I posted the same thread there too, just hoping someone somewhere might recognize the place, thanks for the obvious clarification though. Crazy
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Re: [Menace1262] Washington State\Oregon
 
Hell YAAaaaa , thought I recognized the place . (if truely is ) was goodtimes skydiving there too back in-the-day . I am trying to blow the pics up of your fiance's Mom but they are pretty grainy on any attempt But on the terrain & old Loft & other pics. , ( I could be wrong ) , but I am pretty sure 99.9% , Her old Pics are from ( Sheridan DZ ) . & Teds old place .

Good Call & Good on-ya for putting the Pics. on the BASE.com in odd-chance of someone remembering Old and defunked DZ's that a lot of older skydivers cut there teeth on .
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the very last Pic. on the Ariel-View & I am 100% Positive now .
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Re: [RayLosli] Washington State\Oregon
I was one of those jumpers that started there...back in the day. Pacific Parachute Center in Sheridan, OR, owned/operated by Ted Mayfield. It hasn't been an active dropzone since the 90's.
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Re: [Bones] Washington State\Oregon
Hey another Sheridan survivor .. LOLHAhahahah
although Not an active DZ, It is up-kept & public airstrip & wide-open area for big LZ, as Sheridan town has not grown @ all . & I saw Ted there about 2 years back & I am still sure he lives @ the other end of the runway now .

Ted can Not fly or file a NOTAM ,
But ( Anyone else can ) & file 24 hr. advance to do a Memorial skydive/Ash-Dive on the space . Or just do a Bandit jump there . & I am pretty positive if one wanted to do a skydive there, It can happen . & property is Still 'Skydive Friendly' .
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Re: [Menace1262] Washington State
 
I'm sure your Fiance Mom had good times & good friends with Jumping there @ Sheridan DZ .
Jumping under Teds eye was pretty loose on the BSR's to say the least when I jumped there . I don't know how I survived looking back now @ the shit we did & got away with . Ted had his faults which led to the DZ closing but was fun though with jumping most every day of the week & Beer & bullshit every night when done . When you went out there, You went out to make Jumps . the place always had a steady stream of Jumpers with Cessna & a ratty Beach-18 w/single tail conversion .

ALSO Jumping @ Sheridan . That's where I first met Larry March when I was Skydiving out there.
I am sure that most of the newer BASE jumpers local here in NW Portland area never heard of Larry March (now deceased) & been dead for several years now . but he was the 1st to Jump Multnoma Falls & one of the 1st to start jumping Crown Point also . & With modified Gear not like what we have now either with BASE specific . & then, that was pretty big Balls on jumping those Sites .
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Re: [RayLosli] Washington State
Thanks for helping with all this Ray, turned out to be one hell of an amazing history lesson along with the initial goal. If we get the opportunity to meet Ted it should prove to be quite entertaining I think. And of course I'll have a rig with me and playing with a few people in the area. Wink
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Re: [RayLosli] Washington State
RayLosli wrote:

ALSO Jumping @ Sheridan . That's where I first met Larry March when I was Skydiving out there.
I am sure that most of the newer BASE jumpers local here in NW Portland area never heard of Larry March (now deceased) & been dead for several years now . but he was the 1st to Jump Multnoma Falls & one of the 1st to start jumping Crown Point also . & With modified Gear not like what we have now either with BASE specific . & then, that was pretty big Balls on jumping those Sites .
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Down at Beagle Skyranch, Larry was known as "Blowhole" - he definitely blazed some trails. . .

Teddy's place was truly a blast when we would visit in the 80s and early 90s. Hey - do you know another Ray from there who was into BASE a bit in the early 90s - we called him Death-Ray. Wiltfong was his last name - haven't talked to him in many years - he fucked up his foot on CP. Is he still around?

Teddy was just in the paper here in Eugene a couple years ago -some things never change:

Illegal flight lands pilot in trouble once again
http://special.registerguard.com/...4-eugene-license.csp

Poor old guy just needs to fly. . .
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Re: [gary350] Washington State
ya I remember the (death Ray) & he always talking a line of bullshit a mile long & I never cared for him . His Talents on a skydive or BASE canopy never matched-up with the Illusions of Talent that he thought he had in his brain .
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Shame about Larry & his bout with alcohol in the end . He was a kick in the Ass . He had a few injuries in the end also . A bad cliff strike & then a real bad wreck on his Harley . But he was a little injured on both his ankles before that, from a Tail Strike on a DC3 from a premature deployment (i think) Direct-pin-pull PC got popped open . drug him out off on the floater position on climb-out . And he Broke both his Ankles on the leading edge of the Tail .
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Ya, Ted has had some troubles with the long-arm of the Law . & Always was a pack of characters skydiving & hanging around there . But that's why the DZ always had traffic in the parking lot & Loads going up . He always had one Hand on your Wallet & one Hand on your Girlfriends Ass too . Was great of him flying a Load every once in a while & jumping into the Flying-M Ranch on the weekends for breakfast & I miss that too .
He had some Fucking Good Beer Drinking stories also of things done & close-calls .
like :
His canopy strike under Canopy on the Power-Lines .
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Where he Went-In . On a Christmas time Demo Jump . He sniveled-in threw the Atrium Sky-lite of a Mail & while wearing a Santa Clause costume . & before he got back to the Loft everyone had his Gear divvied-up & given away .
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Demo skydive jump into the Nudist club . & was latter-on Physically Thrown-out of the place . When ( he accidentally ) in the beer line . Bumped into a rear of a woman with an Erection .
And a bunch more but some you just cant talk about on-line .
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Re: [RayLosli] Washington State
RayLosli wrote:
ya I remember the (death Ray) & he always talking a line of bullshit a mile long & I never cared for him . His Talents on a skydive or BASE canopy never matched-up with the Illusions of Talent that he thought he had in his brain .
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Shame about Larry & his bout with alcohol in the end . He was a kick in the Ass . He had a few injuries in the end also . A bad cliff strike & then a real bad wreck on his Harley . But he was a little injured on both his ankles before that, from a Tail Strike on a DC3 from a premature deployment (i think) Direct-pin-pull PC got popped open . drug him out off on the floater position on climb-out . And he Broke both his Ankles on the leading edge of the Tail .
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Ya, Ted has had some troubles with the long-arm of the Law . & Always was a pack of characters skydiving & hanging around there . But that's why the DZ always had traffic in the parking lot & Loads going up . He always had one Hand on your Wallet & one Hand on your Girlfriends Ass too . Was great of him flying a Load every once in a while & jumping into the Flying-M Ranch on the weekends for breakfast & I miss that too .
He had some Fucking Good Beer Drinking stories also of things done & close-calls .
like :
His canopy strike under Canopy on the Power-Lines .
or:
Where he Went-In . On a Christmas time Demo Jump . He sniveled-in threw the Atrium Sky-lite of a Mail & while wearing a Santa Clause costume . & before he got back to the Loft everyone had his Gear divvied-up & given away .
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Demo skydive jump into the Nudist club . & was latter-on Physically Thrown-out of the place . When ( he accidentally ) in the beer line . Bumped into a rear of a woman with an Erection .
And a bunch more but some you just cant talk about on-line .
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So much for the golden rule...

Ray Losli aren't you that homo that gave Tim Shay herpes all over his ass or was it the other way around? If you want to read a line of BS, read Losli's bio:

"Being Intergalactic BASE Jumping champion of the Universe . ( AKA) - Ray Losli."

Never claimed to be good at anything, but I pretty much jumped at Shericdan every day. Was the first to jump crown point and regretted it later for more than one reason.

Met DB cooper at Sheridan and for whatever reason he trusted me and gave me something he had kept for years that proved who he was.

Ted supplied the gear that Cooper used to the FBI and Ted disclosed details that were not released to the public. Cooper knew those details. He also had the deformed area below the eye and gave me a wanted poster he had hidden in the back of his wallet. He told me how the money wound up on the bank of the Columbia and his story checked out there.

I tried to negotiate a surrender settlement between Cooper and the US justice Dept. in exchange for his amnesty, but they refused to give him amnesty so I told them to piss off. They tried to pressure me and all they ever got out of me was nothing. I gave the evidence to my attorney as a gift for helping me out with a malpractice thing. That also protected it through client attorney privilege.

I started jumping in about 1980 but only made about 8 jumps. Then in about 1991 or 1992 Larry March taught me to skydive and BASE jump. Larry sold me his first BASE rig and I had it till about ten years ago when some cable TV installer spotted it in the basement. He wanted to kill himself behind a ski boat with it and you know me, always willing to help.

My sis died the other day and I was searching "my last name + death" and it brought me here. Too bad Losli is such tosser, I have a huge collection of video and photos in the attac I haven't looked at in about 15 years. Made lot's of jumps with blow hole who we called Loony Larry up here. He was one of the good guys.

Deathray BASE #349

PS - How cool! Just found out that Gary350 is BASE #350

It's a small world huh? Something good happened today.
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Re: [DeathRay] Early SKY/BASE Days
Wow, I just finished reading the book
"Groundrush" tonight while my students
took their midterm exams...by chance
are you referring to the same "Larry"?

Simon Jakeman, BASE 60, wrote the
book and said he relocated to Cali.
Anyone ever see him any more?

It is a small world,
for us who jump it Wink
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Re: [RayLosli] Washington State
RayLosli wrote:
ya I remember the (death Ray) & he always talking a line of bullshit a mile long & I never cared for him . His Talents on a skydive or BASE canopy never matched-up with the Illusions of Talent that he thought he had in his brain .

Larry's first BASE rig was my first BASE rig. You are wrong about his injuries, what killed him, the objects he jumped, or many other details. There is no irony wasted on the fact that the things you accused me of you are. Your lack of thought integrity would also explain your functional illiteracy.

Larry was the 3rd person to jump crown point. Steve Mulholland was the second. I was the first. Mike Gauger was with me and took the photos when he was my student.

Mike worked at the camera shop near where I worked in Tigard and he gave me a sweet deal on a camera if I let him go along and shoot photos of the first crown point jump. It was July 4th 1992 and I didn't need to look in a log book to remember that.

After that Gauger was hooked. I tossed him out right over cloud on his first jump and Mike was without a doubt the most natural and fearless skydiver I have ever met. I think I might have been the one to toss his sister or maybe it was Whitney.

I was also the first to jump the bridge up at Mt. St. Helens while it was under construction and Gauger shot photos of that too which was cool since I had a line-over. Bart Jensen went after me that day and Larry March was there to pack and teach us what he knew about BASE. I made roughly 50 jumps off that bridge.

Larry was the first person to jump Multnomah falls successfully but not the first to attempt it. I know that because I was actually there that day shooting photos. The jump, landing and getaway was flawless.

Steve from Fatly's (southern guy) drove the brown getaway van.

Larry lived with me and I took care of him while he recovered from a crushed heel. (not ankle)

He had previously jumped from the 28th floor window, got a 180 and flew back through a window about 10 floors below. He was not injured and that has to be one of the coolest jumps he made other than the falls.

You obviously don't know anything about Larry's rig either. Imagine my surprise? Since I owned it for a decade and made my first jump on it at the same bridge in California that Larry made his first jump, I'm pretty sure I do know something about the history of that rig. It was one of the first to have a shrivel flap if not the first. It was made in Lodi CA be Larry and a friend.

Larry was also the first to jump the Silverton antenna. Steve Mulholland and I went out and jumped it next. Steve went first from the top and I shot video of him opening head straight down 15 feet in front of me after a 5 second delay.

The wind blast from the opening almost took me off the antenna as I shot video from 300 feet. I went from the 300 foot mark after him. Steve died at the South pole making the first skydive there the next year.

Steve and I were also the first to jump the antenna up on skyline drive. (same setup) I hit a cable and split my canopy in two which was the blue parachute Larry sold me with the BASE rig. I got a stand up landing in the ditch with a side by side canopy split right down the middle. Pretty sure that is a first. :-)

I have not been to Sheridan in years but last time I looked around, there was plenty of old gear left in the attic and some kids had wrecked the place. On a dare one day they grabbed and old para-commander and a belly wart that had been in the mouse infected attic for decades and I jumped it.

Didn't occur to me to ask how anything worked and found the rip cord on my right shoulder just before I was about to toss the no-pilot-chute belly wart reserve at 2000 AGL.

I have the orange and white "Aircraft loading jumpers only" sign that sat in front of the loft in Sheridan. If the guy that wants to do that ash jump cares to swing by the house, I'll dig it out for you.

Saw Ted a number of years ago when I landed my airplane on what is left of the runway. He was building an ultra-light. Go figure.

Ted Mayfield was without a doubt the greatest DZ owner in the history of skydiving. Ralph Fatly was arguably the worst. Arch enemies from a gun battle to arson to the end.

We stole the door off Ted's office the night before his annual boogie and took it to Ralph's and let Ralph draw a cartoon on it. Ted naturally took it all in stride.

It was pretty scarey going to fatleys because Ralph had run both Tim and I off for life and had threatened to kill me more than once. At one point, he had a mac 10 sub machine gun pressed against my head. Total psychopath but knew how to effectively make his "point".

You see RayLosli, if you had actually spent much time there, you would know details and what you are talking about. I made 500 jumps there my first year and it was without a doubt, the best years of my life.

Sheridan was 7 times more dangerous than the next DZ on the planet which was in South Africa. 2 or 3 people were grounded there and Ted would write your name of the wall if you were one of them.

You can find my name on that wall and under it Ted wrote "bad boy".

Some things never change. RayLosl was probably one of the students we told to go away and learn to play golf. What we called "The golf chat". Here I am 19 years later giving the same poser the "BS chat".
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Ahhh....The base board
Am I on the right site? I was cold, can't wait to see this fire!
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Re: [DeathRay] Washington State
this is awesome!!
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Re: [packing_jarrett] Washington State
i say we all pull out our dicks and piss on each other.
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Re: [DeathRay] Washington State
Wow looks like I touched a nerve with saying what I feel about you .
I recant Nothing I said about you . Man you were a walking Rectum around me most times I saw you . You acted like a fucking asshole .

I am only a very good BASE jumper with good judgment calls, big luck, & basic solid skills . With BASE jumps over many years . I can truly say with no doubt You were only average skilled with also using bad judgment calls . & were so wrapped-up in your delusions of skydive & BASE stardom I was amazed you lasted as long as you did BASE jumping .
I don't hold any ill will or regrets ever have knowing you . but again I repeat . " you were an asshole to me most of the time I saw you ."
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Hey, I will read the full quantity of what you have wrote in your last Post when I have more time latter on tonight or tomorrow . It looks like a big Read & I cant do it right now, as I have work to do .
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Re: [DeathRay] Washington State
DeathRay wrote:
...mucho base history awesomeness...

I don't give a shit about the drama, but it's badass to hear the stories of people opening and jumping stuff back in the day! Smile
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Re: [shegget] Washington State
shegget wrote:
DeathRay wrote:
...mucho base history awesomeness...

I don't give a shit about the drama, but it's badass to hear the stories of people opening and jumping stuff back in the day! Smile

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Re: [DeathRay] Washington State
Good, ( We Agree ) it was good times there @ Teds . I jumped @ Sheridan from 1991 to the last day when it was shut-down & did 356 jumps there .
Larry was Good times with me . After I left jumping @ Albany . I went to jump @ Teds . Larry, He was my 1st JM there @ Sheridan . He was a kick-in the-Ass to jump with . I used to have to throw Weed & Hash @ him, To kick his hungover Ass out of his bunk in the early mornings so he could put me out on my 1st Static-Line Jumps & progressive delay Freefalls there . I liked that fucker a Lot too .
Larry was good times & good memories . ** Ike Marsh D-9483 **
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OK I skimmed briefly though the diatribe . ( & Ya I Insulted You in it my Post ) . Jump numbers don't mean shit most times . & Everybody Flips Everybody Shit around here .
You could have initiated our reuniting differently . The way most do with me . With the usual Reply Post of, .."Hey Fucker . PM sent ".
Man all I said is, I thought you acted like a big JackAss around me . Sorry for the comment on my Post above but I just never liked you or your running buddy, Tim Shea . BUT honestly, you positively were NOT as big an ass and scammer as him . We all grow & evolve as time goes on . And I am sure you are a better person than my memories serve .
Not sure I believe all your DB Cooper line of shit to validate your street creds. , & if you say you jumped Crown 1st . Then Good on you & my mistake .
Also I have a pretty intimate understanding of all local BASE objects here in this Area & N.W. having have done many hundreds off them . & my friend. In your very short stint as a BASE jumper to retirement . You were a Master of None .

Maybe things would have been different . I had just @ 1-k skydives before I did my 1st BASE jump . You burned-in and were finished in BASE before I really got started BASE jumping . I my friend might be a little slower, sore & worn some days but still have a Sky Rig and 2 BASE rigs .

Getting started in BASE with the right tools & guidance has merit . Hey, Have you read .

http://www.basejumper.com/...g_into_BASE_660.html


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& yes Ralph & Ted were always at each others throats . I still love hearing stories from both sides of the argument .

Also : You forgot to mention Teds DZ Pot Belly Pig, named after ( Ralph H.). Funny story also .
Ralph the Pig was a cute little guy . He ran around the DZ with out a care & a Pink Pencil humped everything from Frap Hats, Footballs & sweaty Birkenstocks . But little Ralph's carefree summer of beer sucking & leg humping life was sadly cut short one afternoon . When he decided to chew on 500-$ of Cessna engine gaskets in the Hanger .
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Re: [RayLosli] Washington State
RayLosli wrote:
Good, ( We Agree ) it was good times there @ Teds . I jumped @ Sheridan from 1991 to the last day when it was shut-down & did 356 jumps there .
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We don't agree on anything poser. I have idea who you are and when I said you were probably one of our static line students we had the golf chat with, I was just trying to insult you. Now you admit you were one of those static line students. Imagine my surprise..

Back then Larry and I were the only BASE jumpers in the NW and we jumped most of the objects for the first time you jump now.

If I treated you like a punk then, it is for the same reason I treat you like a punk now. You are a jerk with a low IQ and a personality disorder called projection. While it not curable, it is treatable with medication and counseling. Seek therapy and stop making an ass of yourself online.



RayLosli wrote:
Larry was Good times with me . After I left jumping @ Albany . I went to jump @ Teds . Larry, He was my 1st JM there @ Sheridan . He was a kick-in the-Ass to jump with . I used to have to throw Weed & Hash @ him, To kick his hungover Ass out of his bunk in the early mornings so he could put me out on my 1st Static-Line Jumps & progressive delay Freefalls there . I liked that fucker a Lot too .
Larry was good times & good memories . ** Ike Marsh D-9483 **

Larry didn't start jumping in Sheridan until 1992 about the time I quit skydiving. I have no doubt that you had to bribe Larry with weed and hash to get him to make a jump with you. I am sure Tim and I made you pay in cases of beer to make jumps with you if we ever even did. I have a vague memory of your name and us hiding so we would not have to put you out on a static line. We were not scamming you, you were just that unlikable. Some things never change.

Perhaps you should have spent that money on getting an 8th grade education. You are functionally illiterate and a moron. No wonder you have such a low self esteem.



RayLosli wrote:
OK I skimmed briefly though the diatribe . ( & Ya I Insulted You in it my Post ) . Jump numbers don't mean shit most times . & Everybody Flips Everybody Shit around here .
You could have initiated our reuniting differently . The way most do with me . With the usual Reply Post of, .."Hey Fucker . PM sent ".
Man all I said is, I thought you acted like a big JackAss around me . Sorry for the comment on my Post above but I just never liked you or your running buddy, Tim Shea . BUT honestly, you positively were NOT as big an ass and scammer as him . We all grow & evolve as time goes on . And I am sure you are a better person than my memories serve .

It isn't my job to manage your self-delusional personality. If you were a jerk, I would have treated you like one. Apparently after 20 years, nothing changed.



RayLosli wrote:
You could have initiated our reuniting differently .

Dude, "reuniting"? Trust me asshole, we were never united in the first place. I obviously avoided you then and I am now. Since you are a little foggy on reality, let me spell it out for you. PISS OFF. Go back and read your first post. Notice how in my first post I mention you project your flaws on others? You are a moron incapable of growing and evolving. Do the world a favor and bounce. I'll shoot the video for free.



RayLosli wrote:
Not sure I believe all your DB Cooper line of shit to validate your street creds. , & if you say you jumped Crown 1st . Then Good on you & my mistake.

I could not care less what you "believe". I have never disclosed all the details that would prove it and never will. My street cred is written in the blood and more broken bones than I can remember on the objects you jump today punk. What you know about BASE and the objects in the Northwest was written by those that came before you. Larry, myself and Steve Mulholland were the first BASE jumpers in the NW and jumped most of those objects for first time before you ever made a static line jump.



RayLosli wrote:
Also I have a pretty intimate understanding of all local BASE objects here in this Area & N.W. having have done many hundreds off them . & my friend. In your very short stint as a BASE jumper to retirement . You were a Master of None .

It was a good time for me not what I based my self esteem on. Since you were not even a skydiver at the time, how would you know anything? Sorry dude, you were not around back then and now you are nothing but a hollow poser pretending to judge me? Ha! Look up the definition of psychopath. You fit perfectly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopathy



RayLosli wrote:
Maybe things would have been different . I had just @ 1-k skydives before I did my 1st BASE jump . You burned-in and were finished in BASE before I really got started BASE jumping . I my friend might be a little slower, sore & worn some days but still have a Sky Rig and 2 BASE rigs .

What an amazing contribution to the sports, You bought three rigs and made an ass of yourself online. [ The crowd cheers ]



RayLosli wrote:
Getting started in BASE with the right tools & guidance has merit . Hey, Have you read .

http://www.basejumper.com/...g_into_BASE_660.html

No I have not read that and I see that changing. I quit skydiving a decade ago and base BASE jumping while you were on a dope rope. There was no manual when I started. It was just me and Larry and a good time. You seem to have a pathetic need for approval. If you bounce, I will approve.


RayLosli wrote:
& yes Ralph & Ted were always at each others throats . I still love hearing stories from both sides of the argument .

That because you were still flunking 6th grade when I started jumping back in 1980 at Ralph's before there were square parachutes in the NW.



RayLosli wrote:
Also : You forgot to mention Teds DZ Pot Belly Pig, named after ( Ralph H.). Funny story also .
Ralph the Pig was a cute little guy . He ran around the DZ with out a care & a Pink Pencil humped everything from Frap Hats, Footballs & sweaty Birkenstocks . But little Ralph's carefree summer of beer sucking & leg humping life was sadly cut short one afternoon . When he decided to chew on 500-$ of Cessna engine gaskets in the Hanger .


No I didn't forget the stupid pig. Ted's pig was killed and eaten because people were hungry and that was Sheridan. Staying warm, dry and drunk was an every man for himself way of life and we sucked the beer out of people we didn't like such as you. Tim and I were printing "The Lonely Guys" with 100 LBS of flour and a fertilizer spreader and all the other stuff we did on that feud/raid night. Tim had been run off for the second time by ted and I went with him since my days were numbered.

The first time Ted ran Tim off, Ted told him he found a good job for him in AZ working for a buddy of his named Larry Hill. I stole Tims car and got the oil changed and filled it up with gas to make sure Tim made all the way.

Once Tim got there, the DZ owner would not let Tim even pack a parachute for money per the plan. Tim called Ted about a month or so later crying about how he was starving to death. So Ted sent him some gas money to get back and sure enough, Tim had lost plenty of weight. It was what came to be known as the Teddy Mayfield weight loss program.

Tim was less of a pain in the ass after that until he fattened up again.

Tell you what poser, there is a bridge up in Washington at the 3:00 minute mark of this video link I posted below. Why don't find it and jump it. I'll come come piss on you worthless bones when the snow melts in the spring.

For all you others that enjoy early BASE history around Oregon and Washington, here is some video of the first BASE jumps made in the pacific northwest. I shot most of it of my friends Steve Mulholland, Larry March and Lynn O'Brien. Steve and Larry are deceased but Lynn and I are still around. We were smart and realized gravity sucks almost as hard as Ray Losi.

That being said, some of the things these kids are doing with wing suits these days is amazing. The sport, unlike Ray Losi, has sure evolved over the past 20 years. I haven't kept track of what is going on or even thought about it much in a decade but I have to say, pure awesomeness!

Ray Losi, piss off and get lost poser. You are pure pathetic. Would someone ask admin to lock this thread? Idiots like Losi never get it. When you are in a hole, stop digging. He is only polluting this thread he hijacked with his BS. After reading his delusional comments, I could light fire with two sticks and pure rage.

I have jumped with both Ted and Ralph. Could I fly better than them at 200 jumps than they could with thousands? Sure but they were old, not current, short and fat.

Would I ever put them down for their skydive ability? Not in 1000 years. I respect those old guys that started the sport of skydiving and many of them paved the way with their lives. The gear innovations I had and the training I received was a lifetime of their hard work and sacrifice. They saw a lot of friends die and it cost them plenty. In their day with the gear and training they had, they were da bomb baby.

Maybe if you had any self respect, you would have some for others. But then, after reading your pathetic posts, who would have any respect for a poser like you? Nobody. People are cheering me on for giving you the bitch slap.

Teddy is an angle and a world class human being. Ralph is an asshole but that has nothing to do with his skydive history.

Ralph sold me a crossfire without the mods and it nearly killed me on the 4th jump. I could have sued Ralph for plenty as there was no waiver on the sale. I didn't and quite frankly disliked Ralph at the time anyway.

Why didn't I sue? Because Ralph gave me his best estimate on what he thought and I respect his experience. While his advice was not right, he did his best and a mans best will always be good enough for me.

Here is some old guys doing their best with the knowledge and gear they had at the time. You got that free you ungrateful punk. Now you want me to read some BASE manual? Piss off.

http://www.youtube.com/user/BASE349

For any else that is interested, here is details about some of the objects and people:

:08 - Construction toilets back when Hoffstad Bridge (North of Mt St. Helens) was still under construction. The first time I jumped that the bridge about 6 – 12 months before this video, traffic was not allowed on the bridge and you had to jump from the wood scaffolding. I was first to jump it, Bart Jenson was second.

:14 - One of the first BASE rigs built by Larry March when he worked at Lodi CA and was one of first rigs to have a shrivel flap. I bought if from Larry for $350.00 and made my first jump off a 325’ bridge south of cave Junction CA during a boogie. The yellow pilot chute was one of the first 48” pilot chutes also made by Larry at Cave Junction. Still have it.

:38 - First Jeep jump off Hoffstad. Mike Gauger drove flew the load.

:50 - Lynn and I doing 2 way off both sides of bridge with her in front of my camera back when she owned that red parachute. I used it for a while after I split the one Larry sold me on an antenna up on Skyline in NW Portland. It was totally worn out but opened straight and was still in one piece.

1:00 - Lynn jumping the black Raven II for the first time I bought her for Christmas.

1:12 - Lynn and I got caught by park rangers that day. Rather than arrest us, we managed to talk them into shooting the video for us and locking the camera in my car and hiding the keys to my car by the gas cap. Now that is salesmanship!

1:20 - Me jumping the under carriage of Hoffstad for the first time by myself that day.

1:40 - I was jumping Lynn’s old red canopy and had a stuck toggle and landed in trees under Hoffstad. I usually hung my canopy on a tree and she would always laugh at my poor landings. Lynn is the funniest and definitely one of the sweetest girls I ever dated.

2:00 - She had a laugh at my expense per the norm. It never seemed to fail, when she was there, my parachute was hanging from a tree.

2:22 - Lynn landed in some water and had a wet butt. I teased her all the way up the hill about how she got scared and wet her pants. Enjoy!

2:40 - Lynn went in hard on a hook turn. When I jumped in to help her I landed on her lines. As she lay there suffering, she chewed my ass for landing on the new parachute. Again, the funniest girl I ever dated.

3:00 - That is a bridge up in central Washington that I jumped by myself. Lynn and I checked it out but there was no landing area. I drove up by myself and jumped it at the crack of dawn later in the spring. Never told her or anyone else because it was too dangerous to jump.

On the other side of that bridge on a ledge about 250' down on the right hand side, there was a white plastic wind screen off the top of a truck that I landed on which was my target. I lost a bottle of prescription pain killers from my back pocket on landing that would be located near that plastic since I landed right on it. That bridge = death. Do not jump it. If you miss the landing, you are in big trees and water with no easy ways to climb out.

I climbed out of Hoffstad with two broken ankles on my hands and knees when I took Dave Martin out for his first BASE jump. At least it is possible there. In true BASE jumper style, I drove myself 100 miles to the hospital in a stick shift Camaro and crawled through the emergency room door of the VA hospital on my hands and knees.

Also seen in that shot is Lynn’s dog Alex. Alex was awarded BASE dog #1 by Jean Boenish after Alex bit a park ranger at Yosemite while Lynn was being arrested for jumping El Capitan. Alex was a super smart dog.

3:09 - A dear friend Steve Mullholand. Steve died at the South Pole leading the first skydive there. Steve had a good head but had altitude awareness problems the whole time I knew him. I probably saved his life on a jump in Sheridan when he went low in Sheridan. He repayed the favor when he saved mine the day I kissed the wall at Crown Point.

I would have never bothered to get a base number but Steve got that for me when I was in the hospital with multiple fractures after getting my foot nearly torn off on my 8th jump off Crown Point. That’s why our numbers were consecutive.

3:15 - Steve Mulholland jumping Hoffstad with me shooting video from the under carriage.

3:20 - Me jumping Hoffstad with Steve shooting video from the under carriage. I tried to hit him in the face with my pilot chute to knock him off and make it a 2-way. Steve had a pretty good sense of humor about it all.v I yelled "Catch!" as I fell by him.

3:35 - Steve jumping the under-carriage for his first time. He would always say “Hi mom!”

3:51 - Steve jumping from Silverton antenna. That was a fun abject to play on and first jumped by Larry March. Larry would always take a beer with him, sit at the top and drink his beer and watch the Sun going down before he jumped. It is a good place to get that big picture perspective of the world surrounded by fields of flowers. It is a stunningly beautiful place to jump.

4:15 - Mike Gauger the day I jumped Crown Point for the first time July 4th 1992 back before he got fat. :-). Mike was the best ground crew anyone ever had and went on to be an awesome skydiver and DZ owner. I helped two skydivers that mattered to the sport. Mike Gauger and little Larry with a sweet deal on my rig. Larry became a Golden Knight.

4:20 - First CP jump.

4:30 - Steve Mulholland jumping the big face of Crown Point for the first time and going super low. Again, altitude awareness problem.

4:45 – Me kissing the wall at Crown Point which took me out of the sport. Video shot by Steve’s fiend Max’s little sister. She stopped video taping when I began to hit the wall over and over on the way down. My new Raven II parachute had 8 jumps on it and all of them off Crown Point. I nearly bled to death waiting four hours due to incompetent fire rescue.

After three hours, Steve lost it and yelled at the police and fire dept. You people are idiots and you are killing my friend.” He stated “I have ran 50 of these rescues. Let me run the rescue and I will have him in the helicopter in 45 minutes.” 45 minutes later, the helicopter lifted off and I have no doubt that Steve saved my life that day. Had almost no blood pressure when I landed at the hospital. While I was strapped in the rescue basket, all the blood attracted the worst mosquito attack I have ever experienced. The police and fireman began to go crazy and were going to fist fight each other. It was an insane experience.

Steve Mulholland had the knowledge, skill and cool head to make it happen when it mattered. A true hero for me and I am sure many others in Yosemite. His death was a great tragedy to me personally and a loss to the BASE community. He spent a great deal of time at camp 4 in Yosemite and made a friend everywhere he went. Steve was the first to make a BASE jump in the antarctic where he worked as a carpenter.

5:00 – Larry March making a jump on the rig he sold me which I used as a spare since it was old. I loaned it back to him to jump Crown Point. Larry hit the wall a few weeks after that and suffered a serious head injury. He died about a year or so later of a heroin overdose. He was a good friend and lived with me for a while when he needed a place to heal and someone to take care of him.

5:27 – The night Steve, Lynn and I jumped the Tacoma smoke stack for the first time. Steve went first so he was the first. I’ll post a funny story about that at base.com someday.

6:00 – Steve exiting Tacoma stack for first time.

6:13 - Lynn going second.

6:23 - Me following with Lynn’s old red canopy and the marathon run get-away.

6:43 – Steve thought the stack we were jumping was the one they were going to blow up in the morning but we were on the wrong stack. We arrive at the stack we meant to jump just as it went down.

7:03 - Me and someone I don’t recognize doing some CRW but I think it was Darrel.

7:11 – Tim and I out sport logging with our friend Paul Bryant the Huey pilot helicopter logger. Paul would let us ride along and then jump from about 13K after the end of his 55 minute fuel cycle. Paul was killed in a crash in Montana and his death was a tragic loss to anyone that knew him. Paul was one of the good guys in the sport of skydiving and a world class helicopter pilot. Paul inspired me to learn to fly rotors and I love flying helicopters more than anything.

7:26 – I remember one of our students (Darrel) was about to get the golf chat after a few jumps. I saw something in him and decided to give him some extra help. When he had 76 jumps he asked if he could start shooting video at Sheridan which is part of I did at the time along with Tandems and JM. I told him I didn’t think that was enough jump time but he insisted I let him try. I jumped out, swooped him and did some flips to give him some fall rate challenges and he did pretty well for 76 jumps. That is a pretty good feeling to see students succeed.

7:38 – Christmas present from Lynn. A BASE jump shirt that Lynn made on the seat of her work pickup as a prison guard. In retrospect, I think she was on the wrong side of the fence. ;-)

The first time I met her she called me up and asked if she could jump my objects. Back in those days, people respected each others objects and would get some help jumping them.

She stayed at my place and stole a teddy that my daughter had given me when I went to visit her in Alaska. She made a BASE rig for the teddy with a pilot chute for a canopy and then jumped a ~230 foot object one night by herself and video taped my bear making a jump.

She sent the video and a photo of the bear sitting on top her unpacked rig with a ransom note demanding I come to Canada, rescue the bear and jump her stuff. Those were some pretty sweet days to be a BASE jumper and she was the funniest BASE jumper of all time. Best looking too until I saw this:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/816582-the-30-sexiest-daredevil-sports-hotties/page/2

Enjoy
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Re: [DeathRay] Washington State
Nice play by play, that was fun. Seems you were very fond of Lynn. Just curious, what happened to her?
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Re: [emememmy] Washington State
emememmy wrote:
Nice play by play, that was fun. Seems you were very fond of Lynn. Just curious, what happened to her?

I don't know what happened to her. Last time I talked to her was when Steve died. I was too injured and depressed to go to his funeral.

Yeah... I was in love. She was pure sugar and spice with a need to be naughty. She was smart and taught me a lot about BASE when nobody knew very much. She used to free fall from a power pole roughly 235 feet if I recall. Me thinks a woman had the biggest balls in BASE history. I'm glad she and I got out alive since we played on some very low objects. I don't recommend people BASE jump quite frankly. It is an odds game and when you lose, you lose it all.
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Re: [DeathRay] Washington State
Hey . I am about as much a Posser as you are . & I have No Idea what the hell your talking about with the Golf Cart analogy & the 'Posser' shit & the other ramblings I read . 'Honestly' . I knew little of you & saw nothing of what you ever jumped . But I was told of past BASE jumps by Steve Mulholland & Larry . Also saw BASE jumps by a few local jumpers @ the DZ who told me to ... " buy a BASE Rig & we will take you " . & they popped my cherry on a couple of my 1st BASE jumps . 'You guys know who you are' & I will be always grateful .

( Death Ray ) Never heard talk of or saw anything you BASE jumped . When I started BASE Jumping , I knew little to nothing of anyone BASE jumping local or anywhere else and I accepted No Knowledge but that offered to me by very close friends I jumped with . Sorry They never mentioned You .

Also, make no mistakes. I am no fucking poser. I did enjoy my few years jumping @ Sheridan I had real fun there. I have logged 'more' than a couple thousand skydives in my time . & most times choose not to talk long-winded shit on my BASE .
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Me not liking you twenty+ years ago . Is Not me taking away from the BASE jumps you did back then .
ALL I Did, was blurt-out what I was thinking & then type it . Then you read it & got a big case of the RedAss . But I should have had better control of my internet skills when typing what I was thinking .
( I was Wrong ) for giving a Public viewing of my personal feelings . Some deserve it when it is called for.
but, You Did Not . And I should have used better control of my emotions .

On a little more serious note . Don't mistake my internet ShitFlinging . As personal attack on your BASE jumps or jumping an object before I did . I am not as petty as you might think .
You are NOT asking for any credit from me . I am pretty positive also you want None . But will give you credit .
Fact is . You Did do some jumps on a few local object here . & you for fact BASE jumped before me . And I am not disputing or trying to rob you off that . Those few local object in the Vid. you Posted were the local few @ your time. & looks like in the Vid. you guys had fun YaHooing it-up on them .
Also Never seen any BASE pics. of you till today . From what I remember hearing you Piled-in & took a severe Ankle or Bone injury's on one of the local object & that put a premature end to your BASE jumping . I know you probably had a few good jumps left in you & you forsure would have went-on & BASE jumped further .

This Immature bickering between us that most definitely ( I Started ) . I Never said you were NOT a BASE jumper .
I just stupidly & publicly blurted ..." I never cared for you ". & ..." i thought you were an AssHole ".
Pretty positive we can go back & forth with internet Cheap Shots at each other for fucking weeks . & that's the kind a crap that makes for Epic entertainment on the BASE.com & the zoo that hangs out here .

But out of my better judgment. I am going to Man-Up here a little bit and say .
HEY Fucker . PM Sent .
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Re: [RayLosli] Washington State
Weak!! Come on Ray, it was getting really good!


BATTLE RAYS!!Sly

Where the hell is Ray Murphy to officiate this???
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Ya Dude I Know . And I cant explain it either. I just didn't feel the love about going for the Jugular on this one .
The only explanation I can think of for my weakness Is that the Ol'lady forced me to sit & watch some movie the other night on the Netflix called Black Swan . And I am have been fucking messed-up & not my usual for the last few days now from watching that disturbing mess .
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RayLosli wrote:
Ya Dude I Know . And I cant explain it either. I just didn't feel the love about going for the Jugular on this one .
The only explanation I can think of for my weakness Is that the Ol'lady forced me to sit & watch some movie the other night on the Netflix called Black Swan . And I am have been fucking messed-up & not my usual for the last few days now from watching that disturbing mess .
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That movie may have been messed up but that is no excuse! The entertainment value of this website has dropped dramatically! At least in Black Swan you get to see Mila Kunis and Natalie Portman get it on!
Here is another messed up movie... maybe it will set you straight!
The skin I live in

You get to see plenty of Elena's skin

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Re: [RayLosli] Washington State
RayLosi,

In your PM you are full of apologies but in this public thread in true poser style, you are still acting like a punk. Your pathetic need for approval is a reflection of the hollowness of your inner self. As full of hot air as you are, I doubt you would need a parachute. Try it and see, my offer to shoot free video stands.

Like I always said, "The sport of skydiving has very little to do with parachutes". BASE was different back then. It was mostly skydivers that had lost friends, students, etc. but still loved parachutes and needed to jump. It wasn't so much of a sport but more like group therapy for adrenaline junkies. I moved on from that phase of my life a long time ago. You still seem rather stuck in the past.

I don't know any BASE jumpers anymore. They have all died or moved on with their lives. Using the mathematical law of probability to derive truth, the truth is that BASE is such a dangerous sport, it should be classified as self destructive behavior.

Most suicides are a form of patricide or matricide. The person is separating themselves from an unhealthy relationship from a parent or other loved one. My parents are dead, the smell of student blood or the loss of friends no longer rents any space in my head. I married an angel, my children are all grown and I have beautiful grandchildren. My days are filled with more intellectual research into the mysteries of the universe and beyond, based in the science of acceleration and physical laws that encompass time squared. Life is as sweet now as I always was, but kept hidden deep inside behind the mask of fear.

I getting to be an old man now and I'll share some wisdom that comes with time. As we go through life, we plow two furrows of energy, one made of light, one made of sound. Those two furrows of energy break up into harmonics and bounce around this universe forever.

While my memories have faded, I can still hear the voices of dead friends in the past just before launching saying things like "Wiley Coyote, Super Genius", "Hi Mom", "Elvis has left the building", "C-ya!", etc.

When I look back on my life, I find that love was always the answer. I loved the more sincere private message version of your pathetic, poser apology, written by the mind of a functionally illiterate 6th grader. You are no match for me in a flame war and never will be. C-Ya! Wink

Sincerely,

DeathRay #349

PS - As a member of good standing of the Photon Conservation Corps, I will no longer engage you in this thread or any other. It only encourages you to pollute the web with your sub-luminal beams of light composed of pure stupid to the 4th power.
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Hey DeathRay # 349
I extended my invisible internet hand out to you with sincere apology . Don't run away angry @ me for being a Illiterate Punk & clown .
Love Me because I choose to hold-back & Not verbally express my feelings of how you had no business even attempting BASE jumping with no acquired Canopy skills or brains to use proper judgment in your approach to simplest object in MY local area .

Shit BASE Jumping around here was not that Hard a task to attempt & you only started BASE jumping a few years before I did .
( Like You ), I went out & bought MANY Used skydive Canopies like Ravens, Cruslite, Fury. from Ralph Hatley's place . & modified them for my BASE jumping needs . I BASE jumped every Object around here for years & Never went to the fucking intensive care-room once while blaming it on someone else like Ralph who has nothing to do with BASE or your own fucked up stupidity .
And not only that . You just did not have any brains to pick the proper Skydive Canopy to do BASE with . Or learning how to do the proper modifications to make your jumping less painful . You had Not gained any mechanics of the Canopy with your skydiving .
& Not only that . I BASE jumping around here Locally with only being slightly Average to Above average skill level & I fucking Did majority of all my BASE jumping around here locally with ALL my BASE gear being what I sewed-up in my fucking Garage and then went-out and jumped it .

So Don't give me your LameAss Psychoanalysis of why BASE jumpers are self-destructive & suicidal with there fun . You just did not have any acquired skills, idea of why you did it . Or How to attempt it .
Your Skydiving & attempted BASE jumping was just a Quick & Painful few months of beer guzzling ... "YaHoo ! " and Pre-YouTube ... " I'm DeathRay" and "Look @ Me " !
My largest regret in BASE jumping was,. " I Wish ", I Did start BASE jumping a few years before you . Then I could have taught you how to do it properly .

Holy Shit ! . You should just Bow-Down before my Illiterate internet Punk ClownAss & kiss it , For I Am your BASE jumping God .
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dear Mr. DeathRay # 349 . ( knock knock ) come out & play .
I am Just getting warmed-up now & am going to come out and just tell you how I feel about meeting you Skydiving @ Teds & your BASE jumping . You thought you could BASE jump but you just were not good enough and Failed . You could Not learn or look after yourself BASE jumping with the little basic Canopy mechanics you thought you knew . & you made shitty judgment calls . Looking back in time to the Old days in Sheridan & skydiving @ Teds place . You must have really Sucked Big DonkeyBalls in the IQ & required basic requisite of Canopy control & skills necessary .

DeathRay #349, You are Slow still to not realize . Even after reading my Apologetic PM sent to you .
Me being socially retarded and totally aware of my only average to slightly about average abilities . I had to kick fucking Ass and step-up with my Learning Curve to make my way BASE jumping . It was tough @ times but I just Cruised threw many years of BASE jumping while continuing to skydive at the same time .
So what does that say about you, Not cutting it with BASE ? .
You need to throw the towel-in . Bow Down to this Internet BASE shit-talking, Clown PunkAss . Go DOWN to your knees to ME. faster than Pres. Obama bows down to Ruling Leaders of a 3rd world countries . I am your BASE God .
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Hey, Death Ray # 349 . If you come off your knees in bowing down to me . You can reply to the Thread ?
or @ least to 'Your' , (quote )
... " the more sincere private message version of your pathetic, poser apology, written by the mind of a functionally illiterate 6th grader. You are no match for me in a flame war and never will be ."
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I am Sincerely interested in your thoughts . I will pretend like this was the beginning of this Thread when you though you were a more accomplished Skydiver & Base jumper than I . While bragging the accomplishments of bad landings & burning-in @ one of the most jumped local objects, No rigging, mechanical knowledge, or minimal Canopy control needed to survive the Basics of BASE jumping . ( again ) With sincerity, I am curious & waiting for reply's .

So Me as a Poser & you as my Peer . I only did several hundred jumps off the few local jump you are aware of . Please educate me .
I will not require you Bow Down before me any more . but only address me as Sir, from this point on .

Come-on Man don't pretend you never read the BASE.com . your friend :
& still your BASE God . Sir Poser Punk & ClownAss.
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