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I've seen a couple of posts on here asking about brandons new canopies, well i just picked mine up yesterday, and i plan on jumping it tomorrow, and ill get back to you with my new found knowledge, but i thought i would post a few pics of my new rig, i have taken a couple of pics while trying to kite the canopy in a light wind. and on a side note, setting the brakes for the first time, I am guessing there is a forum post on this somewhere but while i have you in here, the brakes are new and as such not set to any setting yet, my thoughts were to lay the canopy nose down, get all the lines to full extension, then get the brakes at about the same length, and add about 5 inches... any thoughts? better methods? Thank you in advance... ill get some video of the canpopy flying and landing asap. ((remember the heavily branded gear post? Its heavily branded, but i like and wanted it that way, you could ask him to leave it stealth and nameless I am sure, he is great with making it look exactly how you ask for it. ))

Sideflaking the canopy will give a much better view of tail deflection.
Take care,
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So, lay it flat pack style, check the lines that way. Add about 5 inches? I am 6'3 and lanky as shit I have a lot of range... So I'd rather be on the too long end than the too short end.

Why? You can always reach up higher since you "have a lot of range" and you don't have to flair all the way down to your knees. Just feel the canopy, it will tell you if it needs less flair. Maybe you should take it out of a plane first and just get it dialed right before jumping it off something. Besides, I'm interested in this canopy and would rather hear your testimony of how it performed knowing you knew how to dial in the brakes and toggle length accurately. Goodluck, don't wreck your box.

you said "box"!

I do plan on taking out of a plane tomorrow, and I'd rather take a wrap, and have to shorten them up. Then have them too short, and not have full flight characteristics and possibility of stalling.

Right on, can't wait to hear about this thing. I've contacted Brandon a few times and still haven't pulled the trigger. I'm stoked to hear what you think.

Okay, so update, i jumped my new Mayhem today, it opened awesome, on heading, no broken neck, after opening, it flew nicely, great glide rate, repsonsive turns, nice flare, i played with the sink just past deep brakes. drop straight down nicely, i didnt push the limits to try to fly it backwords, but i will in the next couple of jumps and see if it is possible, as soon as i get footage of a few jumps, ill put a small video clip together of the canopy... but i can say i am very satisfied with it, and it performs well.

So this is a quick thrown together video of a few basics, i setup high for the landing area as there was a big fire fighter water plane taking off and i didnt want any part of his turbulence, but im sinking most of the way into the landing zone, i let up then i full flare, but you cannot see to much of the toggle postioning for that part, but if you look at the shallow and deep brake settings during the flight you can get an idea for how far past deep brakes i flew the canopy in, very basic video, but shows flare after almost full surge, and responsiveness, as well as opening... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAk1J4EjxjM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAk1J4EjxjM

Great looking canopy!

i watched your man vs gravity video, SICK jumps man. that E looks fuckin amazing

It is awesome, and has a lot of great exits, including a diving board like overhang.

so this is a video of a couple of landings my mayhem has given me, i love it, tip toe no step landing, in a no wind condition.
http://youtu.be/ctzYo4wxzTw

http://youtu.be/ctzYo4wxzTw

I have been waiting to hear a little about badseed, it seem's some don't like the gear. I'm buying a new rig next summer, so much great gear these days. I'm sure Brandon does great work, but when you don't hear anything about the gear it make's you think to much about your $$$$ and life!

I've heard several things and all have been good. I want me a Mayhem canopy!

I love my mayhem, I've jumped a blackjack, mojo, dagger, and my mayhem. And the only one I'd rather not jump again is the dagger, the blackjack is a nice canopy, the mayhem has a great glide ratio and s soft slow flare. I did have to adjust my flare, but when I dialed it in, it is awesome. The mojo and blackjack required a more last minute punched out flare. Where the mayhem seems to be started a little higher and more drawn out. For a soft landing without the need to run/walk out the landing.

Glad to hear. I have a menace/mayhem that I'm hoping to have for the turkey boogie. What's your wingloading?

Exit weight at 200, jumping a 260

Always good to get some first hand accounts. Just to get a little bit more info - so you jumped these canopies back to back in the same conditions? Say a couple of jumps lowish FF (200ft), regular SD FF (300Ft) and of course SU. Landing in full flight, half brakes and deep brake approach - same exit points, delays and conditions. Also would like to know if the canopies were the same size and had the same 'options' (vented vs non-vented is obvious, but what about ZP leading edge or 5th control line). Thanks

The conditions for the bj and the mayhem were very similar, temps, altitude, exit height. Vents and canopy size. But as far as lots of time on either canopy, no. I have a few videos up of jumps on the mayhem. Even my wreck still shows opening, and recovery arch. Then me bouncing. And two other vids. But i do swear by my mayhem, opposed to the other canopies, opposed to the others I had jumped. Not that the others were bad. But if I had to chose one to jump again it would be my mayhem followed up by the bj. The dagger would be a car cover. And i liked my mojo.

With all due respect I think you should probably stop giving canopy advice now. Especially when it comes to comparing multiple canopies which you couldn't possibly have the experience to have a thorough knowledge of. Despite what you believe you do not have the experience necessary to give any type of advice and have repeatedly proven your total lack of the most basic canopy flight principles. Again with all due respect it might be best if you left the recommendations to people with more experience.

Oh skygod, I mean fledgling. I'm sure with all your "all due respects/jabs, you're feeling pretty good about yourself, however I didn't give an ounce of advice on any canopies. I said "i love my mayhem" and gave my opinion on it as well as the other canopies I have jumped. No advice all opinion. And as it made you erect to point out my lack I'd experience, I've already announces on my own. I have just put up a few videos showing what I can show. Not talking about it. Because of ky experience level. Base guys are like car guys. Chevy/Ford. I understand people are set in their ways. And that's fine. However if your open minded enough to venture out of your box, I'm simply stating... Once again.... I love MY mayhem.
P.S. your ford vs Chevy canopy... You're canopy probably isn't made.by the guy you bought it from... Just sayin.

Look, I'm no stranger here. Nore a liar. Everyone on this forum by now should know who I am. And not for awesome reasons. But I post often enough and humble enough, you know my flaws. Which I am sure all you jumpers have some close call story from your early days of base. and maybe even your non early days. I was just willing to share mine an mine and try to learn from it. And yes I've never FF a 200'er and i probably never will. As I got into base, to jump from my balloon, as a standard balloon flight doesn't see skydive altitudes. Base was just a bonus. But i have other people in my life to concider so pushing limits like 200' FF or 100' direct bags aren't in my future.
If you end up in Vegas, and would like someone to catch a beer with, or gc, or if you'd like to step out of your box and jump my 260, you're welcome to.

Sounds like advice to me. Advice that doesn't sound anything at all like the Black Jacks I have jumped.
And I meant the with all due respect part. If I had wanted to be a skygod dick I would have said something like- "You are a fucking retarded moron for posting about shit that even AFF students should know and understand like this":

That's not advice, that's a statement with how landing those canopiesbworked for me. I never suggested anyone is landing their canopy wrong and needed to try the way I said I landed them. Don't be a woman and read into things.

And as far as the rear risers thing... First off that's bot and Aff things second off I'm sure i posted that under beginners seeking advice, being that the experience I have with stalling a canopy has swung me out in front of it. And hypethetically was wondering if i hung on my rears if it would have pendelemed me sooner and threw me onto my Ass. Also admitting that would probably cause back injuries, just asking what the canopy effect would've been. So fuck you with all due respect. :)

regardless of experience (as I am new to BASE) I like reading about your experience with the menace/mayhem... there isnt a whole lot of reviews on them out there. Can you tell me more about why you hated the dagger? Im flying a 266 Dagger... I only have two jumps on it (and a few on a Mojo) and I like it. I dont have a whole lot of basis, but I have over 2000 skydives and I do know how skydiving caopies fly. Its definitely a little moe "sporty" than the Mojo... (do not read as advising anyone to jump one or the other... just my personal observation which may be only in my head) and my two openings were right on heading (also note I wont do anything under 400 at this point) especially with the reviews of the openings on the Dagger taking a bit longer to pressurize. I do not have enough jumps to really say one way or the other, but it didnt seem to take longer than the Mojo 280 I jumped...

I'm curious...how many skydives do you have on BASE specific canopies?

I only did one jump on the dagger. I downwinded and the brakes were not in trim for me. Had it all been setup for someone 6'3 rather than 5'5 my opinion would be different. My muscle memory as earlier stated was a last minute punch from the mojo/blackjack. And punching out the dagger threw me onto my ass. I'll post that video.

About 40 base skydives. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kBI0R5Uo8c

I appreciate you stating your opinions. and yeah, you may not have as much experience as some others with multiple canopies, similar elevations, winds, stars aligned the same... but at least you're giving your opinion AND admit how much experience you have. Better than someone with a lot of canopy knowledge and not sharing any of it.

I utterly agree, until you have bounced yourself off the ground in exactly the same circumstances.. with each canopy.... Don't force feed advice... ;-)

And that should be the #1 reason why your comparisons are as subjective as they can be.

One jump on a canopy tuned for someone with much lower weight and shorter flare stroke - no shit it stalled on you. Your beloved Mayhem would have done the same thing given the same set of improperly tuned controls.

I have jumped pretty much every single mainstream production canopy on the market, all of them multiple times and I certainly don't have a very solid opinion of the "best" - just of what I am most current on, and of the fact that vented canopies open faster.

Fully aware as to why the canopy stalled. And aware it would've happened on any canopy

Fixed it for ya......you crazy vodka drinkin Ruski