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Closing 2-pin container
I just got a second hand 2-pin container (perigee-pro) and I am about to start use it and I would like to ask if its matter if the bridle comes out from the right (side of cutaway handle) or left of upper clossing loop.

Sorry for the silly question but CR manual is not give any attention at this point.
I use velcro until today and I have seen adrenaline base ZAK video, and the bridle pass out from the center of mid flap between the 2 clossing loops!

Many thanks for any input
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Re: [Lok] Closing 2-pin container
I don't use this container so I can't really give legit advice, but I would start here. http://www.asylumbase.com/...ides/proinstruct.pdf

I use an Odyssey FX which closes somewhat similar, and also called for the bridle to be routed from the top. However, because the Odyssey FX had no velcro like the Perigee-pro, to keep the tension off the top pin I started routing the bridle out from between the two grommets like several other jumpers.
Just my $0.02 (which might be worth less)
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Re: [OuttaBounZ] Closing 2-pin container
I agree. I've seen it routed out the top and in the middle (between the grommets). I think the middle is cleaner. BTW I use a Gargoyle and my 2 cents might not be worth 1/2 cent
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Re: [OuttaBounZ] Closing 2-pin container
I prefer to route the bridle out the right side top on the wrap around pin cover containers (perigeepro, vertex, apex dp, warlock and similar).

I prefer to route the bridle out the middle (between grommets) on the tuck in pin cover flap type containers (Gargoyle and the like)

my reasoning is that the wraparound pin cover will pinch the bridle if it comes out the middle, while the tuck over style will exert zero pressure over it.
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Re: [Lok] Closing 2-pin container
I have used my perigee pro for all my jumps (over 50) and have allways routed the bridle out of the top. I haven't had any problems with this way.

What is the benifit of routing it through between the two pins?
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Re: [vid666] Closing 2-pin container
In reply to:
my reasoning is that the wraparound pin cover will pinch the bridle if it comes out the middle, while the tuck over style will exert zero pressure over it.
I don't fully understand this. But I have only packed one Apex DP in my life. I can see how the bridle tucked in the middle can put extra pressure on the wrap around, and maybe cause extra friction. Will you please explain the pinch?
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What is the benifit of routing it through between the two pins?
By routing between the pins you don't have to worry about the bridle above the top pin becoming taunt and causing the top pin to lock. Unlikely with curved pins, especially with the velcro that most with this design use to prevent it, but I have heard this argument several times and it makes since to me. Seems like a simple prevention step that works with my container. Not saying it is best for every bit of gear out there, but it has worked for me every-time so far.
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Re: [vid666] Closing 2-pin container
vid666 wrote:
I prefer to route the bridle out the right side top on the wrap around pin cover containers (perigeepro, vertex, apex dp, warlock and similar)

the pin cover side of the grommets is the way a true ninja closes his ppro. the velcro tab tucks easily into the cover ontop of the top pin for optimum streamline derka stealth.

PussIeS BiigG
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Re: [vid666] Closing 2-pin container
vid666 wrote:
my reasoning is that the wraparound pin cover will pinch the bridle if it comes out the middle, while the tuck over style will exert zero pressure over it.

It is not possible for the pin cover tuck tab to pinch the bridle in this configuration due to the fact that the bridle will open the pin cover long before the top pin is pulled.
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Re: [Lok] Closing 2-pin container
I've got an Apex DP and I've routed the bridle both ways: out the top and out of the side between the two grommets. I've used both configurations down to 300' with all flaps closed and tucked. Neither configuration has caused me any problems.

Most of my jumping pals jump the Perigee Pro, and they've used both configurations also. Though most of them have settled on routing the bridle out the top.

I just make sure that whichever configuration I'm using, that I'm confident the bridle has sufficient slack before, after, and between the pins... Then when I'm all packed up, I follow my bridle from my pilot chute until it disappears into my container and make sure I believe the sequencing is all straight.

Also, whichever configuration you choose, just make sure your mates know that's the way you want it to be. This way they're not freaking you out unnecessarily when you get that last gear check at the exit point.

~ topher
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Bridle Routing
seekfun, I agree, good post.

I definitely follow the bridle from PC to pin
on myself and anyone I gear check prior to
donning a rig & before jumping, when I can.

BASE66 in his book shared that he accidentily
routed the bridle through a leg strap once...
reading that made my blood icy so I always
pay very close attention to that crucial detail.

Obvious, I know, but worth repeating if it has
the potential to save one person from dying.

FYI -
VID666 and I both do the same methods,
Gargoyles out the middle, top for the others,
but came to this independently.
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Re: [Fledgling] Closing 2-pin container
Fledgling wrote:
vid666 wrote:
my reasoning is that the wraparound pin cover will pinch the bridle if it comes out the middle, while the tuck over style will exert zero pressure over it.

It is not possible for the pin cover tuck tab to pinch the bridle in this configuration due to the fact that the bridle will open the pin cover long before the top pin is pulled.

You're right, the pinching of the bridle isn't a factor. But just to add to your post, the lower pin is extracted before the pin cover opens. The top pin is extracted before it finishes opening.

Try it on the ground to see what I mean.
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Closing 2-pin container
Many thanks guys for all the info an advice.
Here in Greece there aren't any experience basejumpers so I'll much appreciate your help!

From what you said, I thing that I must use the bridle rooting through the top pin (as CR advice as well) and later on may try the midle flap rooting.
I assume that which way (right or left of cloosing loop) the bridle comes out from the Top flap doesn't matter that much.
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Re: [Lok] Closing 2-pin container
Different container but it explains the routings well. http://www.baserigs.com/...combined_manual3.pdf
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Re: [seekfun] Closing 2-pin container
seekfun wrote:
I just make sure that I'm confident the bridle has sufficient slack before, after, and between the pins... Then when I'm all packed up, I follow my bridle from my pilot chute until it disappears into my container and make sure I believe the sequencing is all straight.

Just thought I'd highlight the important part. Routing out the top or middle, allowing sufficient (which isn't much) slack bridle around the pins is all one needs to worry about.
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Re: [Lok] Closing 2-pin container
This is a setup I like:
good technique.jpg
my technique is tec9.jpg
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Re: [Lok] Closing 2-pin container
The manual for Zak-Containers says:

Checks before jumping : - Bridle must come out between both pins, going directly to the top



pin. - Check that the bridle is clear between the bottom pin and the
pilot chute - Check that the bridle runs on top of the pins
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Re: [stinkydragon] Closing 2-pin container
that was funny man....