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Has anyone Hop and Popped an OSP? If so what are the openings like comfort wise, and did you use a sail or mesh slider? I have recently ordered one and I am wondering if it's wise to order a sail slider as well.

seriously kids, harden the fuck up.
i'm not kidding.

Nice, I'll take a can of "man the fuck up" before I try it, I think I had my pussy suit on while making this thread.

Maybe not a pussy suit, but it is clear you have a gaping hole in your general parachute knowledge.

That's slander, ask me any question and I'll be able to answer it. Will it be correct, well that's a different matter.

OK how about

is it wise to order a sail slider for your OSP?

If you are asking would I use a Sail slider on a OSP for a BASE jump, then the answer is no. If however you are asking would I use a sail slider on an OSP jumping from an aircraft, then the answer is why not? I understand that a 5 second delay from an aircraft gives you the same vertical speed as a 5 second delay from an object, and so the opening force is the same. I also understand that a sail slider and a large mesh slider if subject to zero airspeed will also have similar opening speeds and it is only until the the airspeed on the slider increases that the effects on the opening speeds start to become substantial. Therefore a sail slider will produce a slower opening canopy at higher speeds, and seeing as I am doing a hop and pop from several thousand feet and their is no immediacy for my canopy to be open straight away I see no issue in using a sail slider for a hop and pop jump.

If the OSP is anything like the BlackJack all you will need is a big hole mesh slider.

Are there no fast opening canopies out there

i took a 6 second delay with my OSP out of a tandem paraglider. it opened beautifully, but ive never gone deeper than that. i would just pack slider up with a large hole mesh if you must take it out of a plane, but you should be fine. and if you really dont feel comfy, put duct tape over the vents in conjunction with the big mesh slider.

I have a dozen or so hop and pops with my OSP out of a 182 using the mesh slider (obviously up), both free packed and with a d-bag, taking < 3 sec delays. None of the openings have been anywhere close to hard.

I wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer in school, but I'm pretty sure the opening force is calculated from the product of the vertical and the horizontal speed. V in the attached image. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Like I said a gaping hole in his knowledge, but hey ho he has a couple of hundred skydives so he will be just fine.

That's physics not "general parachute knowledge", so that statement is full of shit, but hey ho. Anyway what's a matter? You seem to have a problem with me. Come an sit on my lap and tell me all about it.

The statement is very relevant. Stop, Think, Compute!

No problem , I just think you are a bit of a tit, who (i hope I am wrong) is very likely to either hurt/kill himself or worse still burn a lot of local objects I jump.

Good luck.

if you jump out of a king air/otter, you will be going damn near terminal velocity when you hop out the door. something like 90 knots.

the manufacturer recommends not taking it to terminal.

dude, the mechanics of your parachute IS physics.

Jools, my buddy, ol pal. I tell you what, you give me a list of the objects you jump (through PM, we wouldn't want any idiot knowing about them would we) and I'll avoid them. One thing, I act like a tit, and I am a tit. Why? It's fun, I enjoy not taking life seriously, but when it comes down to my safety, and BASE I read up as much as I can and I prepare myself as much as I can. I know when to be a tit and when to take things seriously.

As I understand it ,'the manufacturer' takes OSP's to terminal on a regular basis as I have with mine.

I don't know Stane's set up for terminal on the OSP, but I use a large mesh slider and roll the none 3 & 3 with the centre cell closed and buried. No noticeable difference between the Troll & the OSP with this set-up.

http://www.basetroll.com/pdf/ospmanual.pdf

exactly. and don't get me started on that ultralight fabric! don't you ever take that stuff slider down.
it'll explode.

I'm not disagreeing that Atair recommends not taking it to terminal, just adding some extra information...

I had discussed this with Stane before taking the OSP to terminal..

I don't have many terminal jumps on the OSP, but the openings so far have been similar to the Troll at terminal.

F*$k S^&t, I have just ordered an ultralite OSP!!!

It's ok, I will let you jump my OSP. I wouldn't want anything bad happen to you through improper gear.

I did mine with a regular mesh slider...nothing bad at all, out of a grand caravan. But it did open quick enough for me to hear the engine of the plane flying away at 13.5!

now stop being a pusssss!! ;)

1. Jump your SKY rig, land, and cutaway sans RSL
2. Connect any BASE canopy on risers to your rig
3. Pack it pro, flat, reserve, any way you want, SU*
4. Fold canopy to fit inside a plastic shopping bag
5. Exit plane with back to relative wind
6. Remove bag and stow it, no littering

* I forgot to raise the slider once on a Mojo280
hurt real bad, think I cried a little, but that was
5 years ago, and my attention to detail is much
better now

well, to speed that process up... just wear your BASE rig UNDER your skyrig. also works as a cutaway rig as well.

NICE

Be aware, a fussy S&TA might balk due
some rule about only having 1 harness.

Cheers for the replies I've got what I want from this thread.

That's good old 18Ugly in the picture! She doesn't have paint on anymore... awaiting a fresh coat. Won't be kaka colored anymore.