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Dagger 266
I'd appreciate any feedback on a Dagger 266. There is one review on this site but I'm not sure of experience level of the reviewer, and the canopy he jumps is significantly smaller.
Thanks in advance.
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Re: [Rover] Dagger 266
what sort of information do you seek?
sd?
su?
both?
appropriate cost?
something esle?

as always, help others help you!
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Re: [Rover] Dagger 266
My 2nd canopy was a Dagger 266.
I weigh about 190ish in the AM and
put less than a dozen jumps on it.

Word on the street is they fly fast
but do not inflate fast on very slow
slider-down/off deployments.

My brief experience with it and watching
friends jump theirs basically agrees w/
this assement.

However, I did successfully do my first:
solo, crane, urban, and static line jump
from 290 feet into an LZ that was tight
using that Dagger 266.
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Re: [Rover] Dagger 266
I as well didn't put very many jumps on it (5-6) so take this for what it's worth, but I also found quite slow pressurization. So much so it lead me to upgrade canopies ASAP. After experiencing this, I asked some more experienced jumpers about it, and they confirmed it had a reputation for slow pressurization. Oh, and mine was a 288.
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Re: [Rover] Dagger 266
You can compare the pressurisation and flight characteristics of a 266 Dagger to the ones of vented Trolls in low'ish environment on the clip from our last expedition to Finnish big wall :

http://markus.arcticcircleurbanbaseextreme.com/olhava2009.wmv

First 2 jumps (video from the side) are vented Trolls (265 & 205). Third jump (video from bottom) is 266 Dagger and fourth jump (video from bottom) is 285 vented Troll. The cliff is 38m high.
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Re: [Rover] Dagger 266
I have a Dagger 266 and a Dagger 313 in service for first jump courses. They tend to inflate poorly slider down, have strong flare, and fly fairly fast in full flight, but are hard to shut down and sink.
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Re: [Rover] Dagger 266
I did about my first 200 jumps on a Dagger277. It treated me very well (keep in mind back when I started vents were a new thing that not all canopies/companies had as an option). I jumped anywhere from 240' (freefall) on one occasion up to 900' as the tallest (or the royal gorge, whatever is taller). I look back at some of the jumps I did with it and I honestly don't think I would repeat a lot of them with the same canopy (even a new dagger) just due mainly to the lack of vents. I now have a couple of rockdragons (277 + 303) and the openings are significantly better and faster on the RD's. I also recently (about a year ago) bought a Dagger 266 from a friend and have been using it for a slider up/bridge rig pretty much exclusively. If it's a slider down canopy you are looknig for, admittedly there are better choices out there. JMHO.
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Re: [wwarped] Dagger 266
Thanks everyone for the info. There is one for sale in NZ in a Perigee Velcro container. Price around $800 US. The initial use would be SD off a 350ish E. Currently using a Raven 3 but I'm not prepared to use it at this site. Would love to have the latest & greatest but not possible in this current economic climate.
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Re: [maretus] Dagger 266
Thanks for that, from looking at the vid the advantages of vents and newer design technologies are clearly visible.
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Re: [Rover] Dagger 266
Here is a short clip i put together of a dagger Vs a Blackjacks opening
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GghgYiIgbOQ
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Re: [dan_inagap] Dagger 266
Looks like I'm going to save my dosh and look at this cliff from afar for a while. Unsure
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Re: [Rover] Dagger 266
You can get a FOX with vtec for pretty cheap. I saw one on the boards with a container for 1K. I have jumped my FOX from 140'
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Re: [dan_inagap] Dagger 266
dan_inagap wrote:
Here is a short clip i put together of a dagger Vs a Blackjacks opening
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GghgYiIgbOQ

Ouch. That's pretty much the best and worst s/d pressurization on the market today. Quite a comparison.

You should see my Dagger 313...with all that extra fabric the pressurization is noticeably worse than your video.

FWIW, I think the difference in pressurization becomes much more pronounced on the larger sizes. The very small (200 and smaller) canopies the differences are a lot less noticeable.
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Re: [Rover] Dagger 266
Rover wrote:
Currently using a Raven 3 but I'm not prepared to use it at this site. Would love to have the latest & greatest but not possible in this current economic climate.

I'd jump the Raven off that. Just sayin'.
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Re: [dan_inagap] Dagger 266
dan_inagap wrote:
Here is a short clip i put together of a dagger Vs a Blackjacks opening
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GghgYiIgbOQ

with a height make jumps?
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Re: [Monash] Dagger 266
Oh yeah, for sure, i always make jumps with a height.
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Re: [dan_inagap] Dagger 266
In reply to:
Oh yeah, for sure, i always make jumps with a height.

how many ft?
Sorry
(I Do not Know English)
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Re: [Monash] Dagger 266
Monash wrote:
Sorry
(I Do not Know English)
Smile

You're doing a lot better than I would do in a Russian forum.
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Re: [Monash] Dagger 266
No worries, i'm English and sometimes other English people don't understand me Crazy

Its a 300ft cooling tower.