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hi everybody,
to introduce myself
my name is paul, i have been reading this forum for more than a year now, started doing base specific training on my skydiveing gear, worked in a skydive shop to learn some rigging, read nearly every book i could find about base, been out there as groundcrew/photographer, got a mentor and some crazy new friends.
meanwhile i`ve got my own rig, and i`m currently learning to pack my troll and starting balloon jumpng to train dead air exits, plus i own a Go Pro. ;-)

I`ve had the idea to build a thing that helps automate gripping for your toggels and create muscle memmory to enhance speed and precission.
i`ve done some math and it works like this:

I have a Troll 265 MDV and had the break settings are set for slider up, so the mesurements are correct for my situation, but probably vary a bit with different gear, body height and height of your chin-up bar

i calculated that the rear risers have an angle of 21 degree from your vertical body height axis that means if you are 180cm like i`m and the chin up bar is 190cm your "body height axis" or let`s say your feet, have to be 11 cm from the position of the chin-up bar for the toggels to be in the right place
just messure theat distance from the bar, get the canopy over the chin-up bar and mount some (light!!!!!!!!) weight on the lines so the risers are under tension.
now the toggles are in the same spot as when under canopy..

http://www.facebook.com/...0690&aid=2069111
I bult it because i like to train that like an army drill

I´d like to know what the expirienced people think about this...
and yeah i know there is no need to do extra training on this when you can practice it during opening when skydiving or on forgiving objects.
maybe that helps someone out there...
sorry for the spelling and grammar
cheers
paul

What about when your body is violently swinging around? Why not just pack a 180? Your right about practicing on a forgiving object or out of a plane.

He is practicing muscle memory for normal openings (um.. which are the norm). Quick on the toggles training. 2nd nature training.
Take care,
space

i haven`t spent a thought on packing a 180 on purpose, has any of you ever done this? that sounds like something between completely crazy and ingenious..

it HAS been done, both BASE & Skydiving.
it is NOT new, novel, or frowned upon.

it just seems new to you...

Why wouldn't you? Or are you just going to wait untill it happens and then deal with it? Cause its comin! Maybe not on your next one, but its coming. Hell, it could come on your last one! Ouch!

Hey, its me again. I've been trying this 'method' at home. Seems alright. How do you close your container? Maybe my pull up bar is too big, it won't fit in my rig all the way.

One more thought. Pack up a good line twist too. Pack line twist with a line over and a blown toggle too.(out of a plane).

thanks for all this imput...

i dont close the container, i have the canopy on the ground wrapped in a raincoat.

Not only thought about it and done it (many times), but also thought about combining it with a floater on something solid

I think it's a bad idea. Some objects are more forgiving then others, but even still, a jump is a jump. I wouldn't want to intentionally put myself into a bunch of line twists off heading on any object. It's unnecessary added danger (and maybe a sore neck/riser slap)
Why not intentional line-overs? burning up my top-skin and cutting my lines for practice ain't my style

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with the proper object, this technique can be safe, forgiving, and educational.

(but what do I know? feel free to disagree!)

Should've been a bit clearer. Pack all that junk and jump from a plane! I use my WTF toggles so I don't have to 'cut' any thing. Plus, being 5K AGL gives you PLENTY of time to sort things out. Stalling it out should clear a line over as well. I started packing junk after I saw a video on YouTube about some nasty trash packing.