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Sabre2, balloon 5000 ft, Rollover, 200+ skydives, no base jump experience at all.

Risk wise is it "forget about it" or "sounds doable"?

If "sounds doable" then what's best thing to do with the slider? Secure it in the risers or let it go up the lines?
If slider down, do I need to consider a tail gate for brakes and CD lines?

I welcome serious answerz expressed stupidly.

Why would you want all that canopy time? If i was in the same situation, balloon jump from 5000ft with sky gear, i would rather enjoy the still air exit and acceleration of the freefall.

Sounds like a waste of a good balloon jump to me.

It's risky to do a rollover with short lined small canopies. It's doable if you know what you're doing but you definitely do not. It fits in the 'Forget about it" category.

You must push off the balloon pretty hard and the people running the ship probably don't like that.

I wouldn't bother wasting time on it. Go enjoy a real balloon jump. Keep your open parachute out of the balloon. Pack it up for a skydive, then open it somewhere below the balloon and have fun.

Forget about it..

If you do do it get a base canopy and hook it up to your rig. Ask an experienced Base Jumper to help you set it up..

Then again- he/she probably won't give you his canopy or help you set it up...

in addition to what everyone else said - if you want to experience a rollover, but in a safe way, you can spice this up a bit, and make it safer.


a old trash canopy, like a cruiselite/pegasus attached to a 2nd harness worn under your sport rig.
no slider, no bridle

roll it over, spot it, and chop.

you get a rollover, a balloon jump, a cutaway, and a still air exit all in one jump. and you do it safer than a short lined small semi-elliptical ZP 9 cell :)

Like Tim & BASE1352 said:

Totally doable but tricky if you are a TARD virgin.

All of US would much rather jump off of the basket
or gondola and freefall for 10+ using SKY gear or
20+ seconds with BASE gear than do a TARD.

Much safer to do it off of a bridge.

DISCLAIMER: THIS IS A JOKE.

 into the "forget about it" folder a new file has been added

thanks everyone for the inside here I was thinking that unpacks are a piss in the park


tanti auguri ragazzi

Unpacked are only popular because we are all
sometimes lazy, don't feel like packing, but still
want to crank out a few extra jumps.

I have done unpacked jumps from 3 of the 4
objects types and hope to eventually get an E
TARD for "Unpacked BASE".

However, please note two things:

1) I have seen one guy smack the piss out of
the Snake River with his body after doing a
flawed TARD and many more jumpers come
very close to almost gift wrapping themselves.

2) Most "Period & Old School" BASE jumpers do
not look favorably upon TARDs because they
are not "Period & Old School".

What does Period mean when you say period and old school?

Nothing. Even when you get it, it still means nothing.

Although I do like the laziness part of it, the experience of doing something different is also appealing to me. There are so many variations of different unpacked jumps you can do, ones that Ive tried: rollover, tard, tardover, steamroller, floating exit with canopy suspended below, kite, and Mccutaway. I want to try more but I'm starting to run out of reasonable ideas. The OP is probably wanting to do a rollover not because it is the most fun way to enjoy a balloon jump but because he wants to try something new.

To the OP: I would recommend having the rig packed for the jump regardless of whether you decide you want to do a rollover or not, because a rollover is going to be difficult if the winds pick up.

BASE460 asked:

What does Period mean when you say period and old school?

I have no clue... NickDG included it in
his wacky computer generated video
so I threw it in there just as a joke.

Yall are so wrong.

Period=the term that refers to the oldest of old school. It means I'm so old school I can do anything I want and people will laugh and love me! They refer to it as period, because the acts would normally give all other jumpers their period. Confused? Jester is "period" and old school. Bwahahaha!

Try the McJJ with Sauce.

Or better, the double PCA McCutaway waterfall. That's some good fun right there.

double PCA McCutaway waterfall

Where if you fuck up the timing
you can send a 2 buddies to the
hospital, hmmmm, good stuff

Did you ever jump a balloon...?!

I agree, when the winds pick up, the balloon goes faster which makes it even windier..

and if you are going to do it, make sure to jump off the side of the balloon opposite the direction of the balloon, so you don't make yourself an accidental belated christmas present to your mother.

What's that?


No, why? Is my reasoning flawed somehow?

What happens to an object floating free in the airmass when the wind increases?

Put a step through into your canopy. Hang it below you, jump through the lines (forward--no rollover) to remove the step through in freefall. That's the McJJ part. It works best if your name is JJ.

With Sauce means that you hold another jumper's pilot chute and he stands immediately in front of you, exiting at the same time, jumping through your lines with you. When you get under canopy you PCA him. It works best if the other jumper's name is Sauce.

Perhaps it's the Madonna Estates Merlot I'm drinking, but your post made me laugh.

Wasn't the first McJJ (performed by JJ himself) done with no step through since it was intended to be an actual McConkey?

For a period of time the relative wind of the "object" will increase and then after some time when the "object" will travel with constant speed (the air speed) it will go back to almost nill.

... and yes I wanted to do the rollover because is something new.

Just because on my few jumps from balloon I never noticed any wind(logic!) And normally balloons only fly in calm wind conditions.
And because you recommend something to the guy while it looks you have never done it.

Like said before take a BASE canopy, and if the canopy gets blown in front of you go to the other side of the basket!

Yes. He put the stepthrough in during the freefall. Taking it out instead is definitely an improvement.

If you perform your jump properly and release the PC's early in the event of a misjudged exit, this won't happen. The PC holder must act as the safety in this jump--if the exit is mistimed he has to recognize that fact and release the PC's immediately, aborting the jump.

The reason that a variation on this jump resulted in injury a few years back was that the PC holder failed to recognize that the exit was done poorly and held the PC's (instead of releasing). This caused canopy extraction in a downward direction (because the PC holder was below the free-falling jumper who's PC he held) resulting in entanglement.