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Started skydiving in march to start BASE but Where I do enjoy skydiving I just can't seem to love the skydiving community, why the people are nice people they just ain't my kind of people, full of nerdy students n piss poor humour.

I feel like base is what I'm looking for and need to get into,

Did anyone else have this problem when starting?

no

My people are 95% of the people that fun jump every so often or on the weekend.

The other 5% are career skydivers that arent scum.

Dont shortcut yourself on skills because skydivers arent your crowd. Go to the dz, stick to yourself and do a couple jumps if you dislike the people that much.

No,

i met some of the guys who taught me to fly my body in the air, so i kinda respected em more....

maybe you just neeed to cruise around dropzones if you started in march i am sure you have passed ya license and have a rig..why dont ya move around mate..

good point cunt!...

i did a 2.5month drive around the US and went to 9 different DZ's, biggest thing i noticed was each and every DZ had its own vibe, not 1 was a copy of another. good luck, oh and if you dont like them, make them hate you =D

BASE jumpers are also skydivers. if you don't like skydivers, you may not like BASE jumpers!

as stated before, different dz's have different vibes. shop around.

How many BASE jumpers do you know and have hung around with? You met the skyjumpers and don't like them, how do you know you will like BASE jumpers? Also, if the people are the only reason you are wanting to BASE, you are going about it wrong.

The rumor I heard is they don't like you much either mate.

Feelings of isolation and 'not fitting in' when trying to socially interact with others on the DZ ?
Often the onset of puberty really amplifies those feelings of isolation that you are experiencing .
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http://www.dropzone.com/...tail_page.cgi?ID=713

am going to kayak from the origin of the river down to the my hometown...will take a week or two.

??? why? it will take so long and will be very very tiring, you can take the bus or just hire a car and drive.

I cycled across the island, from east to west. Was so much fun.

?? duffer... you could directly fly to the west. There is this budget airlines flying there twice a day. Sometimes they even have deals.

I cut down on these friends because they are just so different.

BUT....Eventually, if I continue to do so, I will be alone and get frustrated on having so many boring people around with total lack of appreciation of adventure and interested only in mundane and materialistic things.

so I came up with a pie-chart approach. Divide the friends based on your interests and do not try to mix. If you talk about adventure and all with nerdy guys, you will get frustrated....and vice versa...

now I have this Venn diagram approach ...this is more practical.....so when you move from circle to circle you have to stick to the typical topics of the gang, otherwise you will be alone.

and as is the actuality ...there is a very small intersection of our friends with whom we can talk about any any thing that is totally of our common interests...


it's not easy to NOT think about our primary interests when in different circles but with some efforts should be possible. am still trying

Yes actually, I had that exact same problem.

I found the solution here was to change to a dropzone that was less student friendly and smaller after I had enough skills to take care of myself, this made a huge difference to the way i felt about skydiving. Sure I had to trade a PAC750xl for a Cessna, but it was worth it.
Ghetto will agree how full of shit the main DZ in JHB is.

Stay out of the way of assholes, ignore their advice if it is stupid and surround yourself with chilled, laid back, good people (with a good skydiving knowledge of coarse)

have fun

Ummmm that is 100% WRONG.

If you are going to use a Venn Diagram, use i right. A Venn Diagram is to show the differences within the individual circles and any similarities within the intersecting portion of the two (or more) circles. Your intersecting circles within a circle, and just a circle next to it. This is just incorrect.

how is that 100% wrong?
it is a very rare case of a BASE jumper
not at least having "roots" in skydiving
and while there are increasingly more
BASE jumpers who only used a DZ as
a means to get to the goal of BASE
the majority are still active skydivers
the gang of BASE jumpers i hang with
all are active fun loving skydivers
also "BASE jumper mentality" is in most
cases "skydiver mentality" on steroids
furthermore, if you think such and such
DZ does not fit your personality needs
there is one down the road that will
so then where is the 100% error

I pleased my teacher to pass the subject without having to take it seriously.She was hot, I get good grades..why not?



I think my diagram is 100% correct!

Your diagram my 100% correct, but not your "Venn Diagram."

I think you are 100% nerdy ...

why the heck are we talking in percentages here???
haha

Avery,

You have individuals from other disciplines who use that to get into BASE for whatever reason. (non-skydivers)
You have skydivers who get into BASE for whatever reason. Saying BASE jumpers are all skydivers, it's like saying all skydivers are BASE jumpers?
So If you don't like skydivers you won't like BASEjumpers and if you don't like BASEjumpers you won't like skydivers??
IMHO skydivers bring more of the DramaZone to the sport vs. non-skydivers. Not to say the non-skydiving BASE jumpers do not. again... IMHO. Let the slander to my comments commence.

 nope, you're on 100% bullshit here.
it's the usual response by the cool and fast crowd...
yeah i start skydiving only for basejumping and then i'll be cool! no more refining skills at the dz, where most people are better than me anyway and i will never feel so special!
face it, most people who tell these tales do so simply because they suck skydiving , and so do you probably.
can you land a 90 crossbrace? stop a student spinning head over ass? take solid grips headdown? no? i thought so.
because face it: it takes a lot more skill than basejumping.
everyone can basejump, and get away with the most ridiculous mistakes...it takes more balls and determination than skill.and no problem doing it multiple times even.
try hooking that 90 velo multiple times.

most of the people i base with love skydiving and actively do so.

Obviously you're one of the Drama Queens I was referring to.

You probably have a recording of what you said on an MP3 player and listen to yourself everyday. I give you credit for living up to your name at the very least, no matter how small it is.




~Doc tells a patient about to give a shot... "Don't worry it's only a little prick."

where is the drama?

i was just trying to point out that if you truly love flying and being in the air you just can't dislike skydiving. or paragliding. or speedflying for that matter.
i pursue all of the above and i love it.
because i try to experience human flight and have the most fun and be as happy as i can while doing so.
not try to be cool, never did. hence the pink wingsuit.

Generalizations, like stereotypes (pos or neg), while often based in reality are by nature unspecific. The op seems to be opining on a high level without having sampled an adequate portion of the representative population.

I dont think anyone is 100% right or wrong. i love skydiving, but hardly jump anymore. primarily because i don't have the time to spend my weekends at a dz, and also because ive found many dz's to be "clicky" in one way or another. That being said, i dont spend enough time at dz's to develop relationships with the people there, and that may add to my feelings of misplacement. When i was jumping regularly, i found places that i liked, and places i didnt.

Base is more suitable to my current lifestyle, so i have been base jumping more than skydiving in the last 2 years. I skydive, and base, because i want to and i love doing it.

Considering my experience with people in base over the last 2 years, i might make the generalization that base jumpers are "friendlier" and more likely to share time, jumps and knowledge with newcomers. The opposite could easily be said, however - the reactions to newbs on this forum are perfect example.

Comment about skills required to base is an excellent point - skydiving with people of lower skill levels is not always the most appealing prospect, because you are spending time in the air interacting. in base, the time you spend with others is mostly scouting objects, climbing, hanging out, etc - this does not require skill. therefore, i might say that base jumpers are more likely drawn to others for interpersonal reasons then for their skill level.

I think what you need is a flow diagram.

But I think you are 100% right in saying this

there is no absolute, 100%, complete right or wrong be it in the current context or any...

to keep it short...from my experience... I see BASE jumper community has more people connection/touch, if you know what I mean, than skydiving. Skydivers are pretty much indifferent to newcomers, students, and visiting jumpers unless he/she has great skills or body or both like Roberta. BASE jumpers don't really care about the skill levels when it comes to people connection (of course they will CERTAINLY consider it when it comes to jumping and giving advice and information about objects).

no generalization about skydivers here but I won't have to rethink if I generalize my experience with BASE jumping freakos.

you mean a loop diagram?

Just an observation from my life experience: If one keeps getting the same probs from a multitude of people. then the pattern indicates that that "one´s" approach to life is highly suspect. I am not saying this is the prob, only food for thought.
Take care,
space

Lighten up Francis.

How can you expect to "fit in" where you are a stranger? Do you expect to have your name called out from the patrons of a pub you have just discovered as you walk in the door? Take your time and take the chip off your shoulder for a while. We can't all be as cool and intelligent as you want us to be. Most of us are just plain folks with simple tastes and humor.

jon

Can't agree more with space here. Frequency analysis can give you the answer. If you're having problems with 99.9% of people, you must be doing something right, since 99.9% of people are idiots.

Congrats!

your just not drinking enough, they're much more entertaining after a few shots.

seriously.