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Apex posted this on facebook and hope its okay for me to repost it here. Please click on the link and sign the petition to allow BASE jumping in national parks. Takes 20 seconds


http://www.gopetition.com/petition/39655.html

http://www.gopetition.com/petition/39655.html

posted it on my page as well

Were you all successful in completing the form?

I tried a few times but the security code at

bottom did not work, might be my old OS.

Could be the obvious, caps lock on? Lol, There is a red star beside the required fields like your zipcode. Just joking. Thanks

I didn't have any problems.

u still running windows ME tom?

Signer #617

#1056 and posted on facebook for others to sign and ask there others to sign.

http://jimstar.sportblog.fr/...s-parc-nationaux-US/

read my last 2 sentences from my Post here & you will read what will happen if it gets a green light.
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http://www.basejumper.com/...;;page=unread#unread
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Green light implies unrestricted jumping. Aint happening. At best BASE will be very restricted in the parks.

 
Just like everything else in the parks.
Hiking, camping, climbing, parking, etc.
Regulated jumping is better than none at all.

why is this for us citizens only?

Seriously? I now have found 1 good reason to be an american.

With respect to my american friends :-)

You did not find it, it was given to you by an American. Talking about self promotion

With respect to my american friends :-)

Why doesn't Dean Potter with National Geographic's support provide some help with this?

Good question, there are 1750 signatures as of now.... Wonder how many it would take to actually cause any type of positive change?

I honestly dont think it will matter until some of the signatures are by Congressman.

Wonder how many is a base jumper who signed.

The governor of West Virginia is very BASE friendly!

He is running to become a Senator. That could make him even more influential.

considering that most parks average that many visitors entering in an hour you are not even close to being on the radar also not to mention this is an electronic petition on a website with half the signatures are from "anonymous"

dont expect the land of no to become the land of no problem anytime..... ever.....

You selling your BASE rig yet? I mean you don't jump anymore

The anonymous signatures are readable but not posted publicly.

Even though you're a ranger, do you think the punishments fit the (non)crime?

That is a whole different discussion all together

punishments are just as much about deterrence as they are about punishing the individual.

If the citation only cost $50 would that an effective deterrence? I think most people here would pay $50 to jump el cap.



Andy:

Can i borrow your one pinned purple monster of a rig? You dont need since you cant walk and all.... or is that just the new cinci landing style?

as a side note, if the technology could be developed, another approach (albeit not a practical one), would be another IMAX film but this time 3d with the cameras on the jumpers. Just show jumps not in the U.S. and then make the appeal to the public regarding NPS regulations. IMAX technology is just not mature enough to wear a 3d imax system on a jumper. I wonder if the Jackass movie guys have developed anything that would work for making a 3d IMAX movie from a jumpers point of view.

fwiw...

I removed a post that read like a personal vendetta. Feel free to take it to PM's. (no official comment on the content.)

I will start off by saying, I'd like the NP's to be open to jumping.

BUT I doubt I will sign the petition. It is a rather lousy and counterproductive idea, IMHO.

the hard part is NOT getting the parks to re-open to jumping, it will be to MAINTAIN the right. fighting jumping seems embedded into the culture. even if the regulations change, many rangers will jump at the chance to shut it down again.

look at the last protest jump, that ended with a fatality. anyone think that ended up helping or hardening?

look at the recent reckless acts at the KL event. look at all the fatalities at the Norwegian cliff. any of these incidents will arm the rangers with ammunition to stop jumping, again.

if it would get shut down, again, it might turn into a long, harsh winter. the current status quo could seem rather nice.

sure, tasering is out of control, irresponsible, and unwarranted.
then again, so is developing your rodeo wingsuit technique at a low, urban object with exceptionally high visibility.

if we ever must worry about keeping the NP's open, we must learn how to restrain ourselves.

as always, I could be wrong...

ps
just look at the cliff involved in the urine drinking debacle. wasn't that site once reasonably jumper friendly (heliboogie)? it changed. how about the Mexican Cave? if we can't keep these sites open, we will never keep the NP's open.

 
I did sign it. I oue Jimmy and Marta that much. Base is going through a growth phase right now. I don't think it would be wise for the parks to be opened at this time.I think the odds of sucsess right now are low enough that there is no danger of it becomeing open tomarrow but I think it's worth it to lay the ground work for future efferts.

I don't think the level of growth we are exspereancing right now is maintainable. Just the limeted number of objects alone puts a sort of cap on it. I think it's a question of how this period will end. Will it result in the closeing of all the major easly assesable objects. Or will the youtube fad finely wear off till the images of wing suit flying just become blassay. Some times I think the closeing of the parks was the best thing that ever happioned to the sport. It cooled their heels and gave base and base jumpers a chance to grow and machure. I think we could hae survived the opening of the parks fifteen years ago but I'm not sure you could say that today.

Lee

What an interesting point of view.

Personally, even if I had to pay some nominal amount, I would do it to jump El Cap. It's far better than dealing with the stress and cost being busted.