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BASE for Peace - 21way for the 21st of September
Austrian jumper Gerald Leberl had the idea to make a record BASE jump to raise awareness of UN International Peace day (aka World Peace Day) the 21st of September.

So he put together a team of 21 jumpers to meet at the ITW to break the existing 11 way record.

The weather was against the attempt and had to be rescheduled twice. Many of the original team were unable to make the 3rd attempt so it took some luck and determination to find enough jumpers.

Thanks to everyone who participated in the project, especially those who couldn't make the final attempt, thank you for taking time to come to ITW as your support was appreciated.

The jump is dedicated to Will Heidelbrecht, who sadly passed away in Lauterbrunnen just after the record.

As the air space at ITW is not best suited to a simultaneous launch a 4 wave exit was chosen, with everyone being in freefall together (13 trackers and 8 ws).

Footage from the jump can be seen here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-DJObHWE4I
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Re: [unclecharlie95] BASE for Peace - 21way for the 21st of September
unclecharlie95 wrote:
Austrian jumper Gerald Leberl had the idea to make a record BASE jump to raise awareness of UN International Peace day (aka World Peace Day) the 21st of September.

So he put together a team of 21 jumpers to meet at the ITW to break the existing 11 way record.

The weather was against the attempt and had to be rescheduled twice. Many of the original team were unable to make the 3rd attempt so it took some luck and determination to find enough jumpers.

Thanks to everyone who participated in the project, especially those who couldn't make the final attempt, thank you for taking time to come to ITW as your support was appreciated.

The jump is dedicated to Will Heidelbrecht, who sadly passed away in Lauterbrunnen just after the record.

As the air space at ITW is not best suited to a simultaneous launch a 4 wave exit was chosen, with everyone being in freefall together (13 trackers and 8 ws).

Footage from the jump can be seen here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-DJObHWE4I

That's quite some shift in "BASE Ethics" compared to http://www.basejumper.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2530383

"For them, it's not ok, but for us, it is", yeah? Wink

It's only a matter of time that these "records" will end up in a simultaneous multiple fatalities that will fuck up the access to this wonderful resource that hundreds of jumpers have been enjoying for many thousands of jumps over many years.

Booooooooooooo!
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Re: [unclecharlie95] BASE for Peace - 21way for the 21st of September
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Austrian jumper Gerald Leberl had the idea to make a record BASE jump to raise awareness of UN International Peace day (aka World Peace Day) the 21st of September.

dude, that's is the Gayest fuckiin excuse for a Jump ive ever fucking heard.

HEY is there any Peace, fuck no!

shit just jump and forget all this PC/faggy stuff!!!

But i guess jumping and pretending like your actually doing something for Peace makes you feel good, then fucking do it!!

just make s you look like fucking gay dogooders , who don't really DO anything, except have fun leaping from cliffs n' shit! and pretending to be doing something for peace.

i hate PC crap like this!

oh , wait, i just heard on the news that there's massive world wide peace , because of what you did!

i stand corrected!!
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Re: [PAINTitBLACK] BASE for Peace - 21way for the 21st of September
Hey I don't think I like your attitude ? & that , ..."Gayest fuckiin excuse for a Jump ". comment thing, is just because you are not secure with your own Manhood and Hate a happy world . Dude, everyone knows The UN kicksAss and is a leading, driving force for mankind living in harmonious unity and You got to roll-over and accept & embrace the unity of 'one world in peace' .
Being that I am pre-engaged with world peace events this month I hope this UN international awareness BASE jump ends-up on the YouTube so I can see it .
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Re: [yuri_base] BASE for Peace - 21way for the 21st of September
I see storm clouds forming over the ITW
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Re: [unclecharlie95] BASE for Peace - 21way for the 21st of September
What's wrong with being gay*? Smile
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Re: [RayLosli] BASE for Peace - 21way for the 21st of September
Yeah, UN is great, they were great when they watched genocide of 800 000 people in Rwanda and didnt have balls to react to it. Fuck UN, same bunch of greddy fucks as everywhere in politics. They might be doing alot of good but they are not doing as much as they could...
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Re: [Lukasz_Se] BASE for Peace - 21way for the 21st of September
I am going on a hunger strike.
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Re: [Dorkzonehero] BASE for Peace - 21way for the 21st of September
Hehe I enjoyed your post, Im not swedish, Im from Poland, my grandfather actually died in WW2WinkSo I agree with what you wrote about this great country I live in right nowTongue
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Re: [Lukasz_Se] BASE for Peace - 21way for the 21st of September
A pyramid is a Pollock BASE object.
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Re: [yuri_base] BASE for Peace - 21way for the 21st of September
yuri_base wrote:
That's quite some shift in "BASE Ethics" compared to http://www.basejumper.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2530383
"For them, it's not ok, but for us, it is", yeah? Wink
It's only a matter of time that these "records" will end up in a simultaneous multiple fatalities that will fuck up the access to this wonderful resource that hundreds of jumpers have been enjoying for many thousands of jumps over many years.
Booooooooooooo!

Hi Yuri_base.
I am almost in 100% agreement with your post and the link you have provided gives great insight into the event. But somehow it doesnt convey your statement in the shift of BASE ethics. Contact the locals. Sort it out with them. Where is the discrepancy? My issue with the previous was lack of preparedness/practice/talent. These present jumpers did prepare and practice, not to mention that the technology and skill level to use it has went way up in the past 5 yrs making things more possible.
As for your statement about records. Isnt that what records are about? doing risky stuff and not dying? Put your research hat on and find an example of death in a record attempt screwing up access to a sport locale and educate us. Also it would be nice if you state your jump experience to your speculation.
Please dont take this as put off but rather to put some weight behind your words. Also, if you havent already jumped at ITW, it would be nice for you to see it. I hear tell the best view is in FF.
Would like to jump with ya there.
Take care,
space
ITW #9
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Re: [bor] BASE for Peace - 21way for the 21st of September
bor wrote:
I see storm clouds forming over the ITW

and bor, i see you don't post much, a good thing, but your last 3 posts have all been "critical" of my behavior.

If you have something to get off your chest call me: +39 349 436 4541 or come see me at ITW. Or maybe you're not gay*?
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Re: [PAINTitBLACK] BASE for Peace - 21way for the 21st of September
hi man,

i have organized that jump becouse i liked the idea of peace one day.
i have also already made a project and collectet over 100 000 euro for people in india and africa who do not have a bit of a chance for a better life...
at least i try to make a better world...
if you don´t like, don´t fucking watch it....
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Re: [geri] BASE for Peace - 21way for the 21st of September
that jump rocked! i loved the video, excellent camera angles, and it makes your heart skip a beat to see all these bodies hurling themselves off the exit point. it did get kinda sappy at the end, but then you can always edit that part out : )
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Re: [unclecharlie95] BASE for Peace - 21way for the 21st of September
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What's wrong with being gay*?

Besides it hurting your Butt and maybe catchin’ the AIDS?

Besides the UK ,I’d have to say Euro men do tend to be “Gayer” than US men for sure.

The speedos’ and the fancy dress.
But the lack of showering/deoderizing confuses me? that’s not so gay?
But I do see more of you running around with those “purses’” what’s up with that? That’s a definant way over here to spot a gay dude. You guys are all running around with em’?

Just an observation. Nothing wrong with Euro dudes, I love Europe for a lot of stuff. Especially their openess to BASE and especially E-basE for sure!

I guess there’s nothing wrong with being a gay dude.?
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Re: [geri] BASE for Peace - 21way for the 21st of September
geri wrote:
hi man,

i have organized that jump becouse i liked the idea of peace one day.
i have also already made a project and collectet over 100 000 euro for people in india and africa who do not have a bit of a chance for a better life...
at least i try to make a better world...
if you don´t like, don´t fucking watch it....

No offense ,or take offense.

But jumping off a cliff for peace is still dumb, about as dumb as jumping off a cliff in the name of WAR.

Ya see.

And truthfully, the later is more than likely to come true.

Also the records thing? Leave that in the skydiving world. Just jump!

Again the jump was fun I’m sure, but did nothing at all for world peace. And never will.

I’m glad It made everybody feel good at the end of the day.

Sorry to piss on your parade. But im Right!

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Re: [PAINTitBLACK] BASE for Piece of ASS! - 21way for the 21st of September
the only piece i'd BASE for is a piece of ass!!

and a 21 way no less wood be great!! i really doubt i could handle more than 3 gals at time, who am i kidding maybe two?

but id try really hard! and of course like you guys id get it on video,, coz as you know if its not on video it probably didn't happen! right!

BASE for PIECE
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Re: [base283] BASE for Peace - 21way for the 21st of September
base283 wrote:
yuri_base wrote:
That's quite some shift in "BASE Ethics" compared to http://www.basejumper.com/cgi-bin/forum/gforum.cgi?post=2530383
"For them, it's not ok, but for us, it is", yeah? Wink
It's only a matter of time that these "records" will end up in a simultaneous multiple fatalities that will fuck up the access to this wonderful resource that hundreds of jumpers have been enjoying for many thousands of jumps over many years.
Booooooooooooo!

Hi Yuri_base.
I am almost in 100% agreement with your post and the link you have provided gives great insight into the event. But somehow it doesnt convey your statement in the shift of BASE ethics. Contact the locals. Sort it out with them. Where is the discrepancy? My issue with the previous was lack of preparedness/practice/talent. These present jumpers did prepare and practice, not to mention that the technology and skill level to use it has went way up in the past 5 yrs making things more possible.
As for your statement about records. Isnt that what records are about? doing risky stuff and not dying? Put your research hat on and find an example of death in a record attempt screwing up access to a sport locale and educate us. Also it would be nice if you state your jump experience to your speculation.
Please dont take this as put off but rather to put some weight behind your words. Also, if you havent already jumped at ITW, it would be nice for you to see it. I hear tell the best view is in FF.
Would like to jump with ya there.
Take care,
space
ITW #9

Yo Tracy,

The end result of the outrage 4 years ago from that link was actually good, despite being driven by inflated egos from all sides. The end result was this strong message to BASErs around the world: don't bring you fucking big ways and other stupid shit to this beautiful little garden. Let's take care of this garden together. Let's go long, not hard.

As far as I understand from following that drama at that time, Russians understood, and turned the whole situation into a friendly laugh and even made a special T-shirt for you, "Did you ask Tracy?!" with Mother Russia launching wingsuits like rockets. Laugh

Now, this 21-way precedent opens the doors for making ITW an international megazoo where bodies will be falling from the cliff like poop out of C-130's on big way records every other good day. There will be a 13-way world record of jumpers with inflatable crocodiles commemorating that crocodile hunter from Australia, 10-way linked 2-point headdown of windtunnel rats all jazzed up after watching that Soul Flyers headdown footage from Norway, 100-way Grid of wingsuits proxying the wall in mattresses while bending the legs at 45 degrees, and 25-way unpacked jump that will assemble a 5x5 CRW diamond.

The videos produced by these teams will be all somewhat different in the beginning: they may start with a footage of atomic bomb explosion, or gay parade, or Martin Luther King saying "I had a dream", or Mussolini standing on a balcony, or starved kids from Africa with flies over them, or John Lennon in bed with Yoko. They will all have their "good cause".

But they will all have very similar ending: some old farts from some bureaucratic organization overlaid with a romantic saxophone tunes. Sly

Oh, and the amount of overall preparedness/practice/talent now is much higher than 5 years ago. And they will contact the locals. And what would you say then? And if locals disagree, some will do it anyway. And the chance of something going wrong on N-way is not just linear N-fold higher, but more like NxN-fold higher.

BASE is growing fast, but resources are not growing at all. At least, some "children playgrounds, flower gardens" should be respected more than just some random sites.

Take care,
Yuri

Wink
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Re: [yuri_base] BASE for Peace - 21way for the 21st of September
 
http://www.basejumper.com/...orum/files/image.gif

who the guy on the right in picture?

Looks like an Ice Skater? i think so?

what countryy/continent he from???Laugh
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Re: [PAINTitBLACK] BASE for Peace - 21way for the 21st of September
I dunno, I don't follow male ice skating, ask Tracy!

BASE for piece! Laugh
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Re: [yuri_base] BASE for Peace - 21way for the 21st of September
funny shit Yuri (yes, I am giving you kudos).

but as usual "meow - herding cats is always a loosing proposition"
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Re: [vid666] BASE for Peace - 21way for the 21st of September
vid666 wrote:
funny shit Yuri (yes, I am giving you kudos).

but as usual "meow - herding cats is always a loosing proposition"

Paul, it's not about herding the cats... It's about silence of the lambs. Wink
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Re: [Dorkzonehero] BASE for Peace - 21way for the 21st of September
Dorkzonehero wrote:
Have you not seen Hotel Rwanda with Denzel Washington...

... all the credibility of your post went out the window, when you make such HUGE mistakes... Tongue Don Cheadle.
Cool
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Re: [PAINTitBLACK] BASE for Peace - 21way for the 21st of September
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dude, that's is the Gayest fuckiin excuse for a Jump ive ever fucking heard.

HEY is there any Peace, fuck no!

shit just jump and forget all this PC/faggy stuff!!!

But i guess jumping and pretending like your actually doing something for Peace makes you feel good, then fucking do it!!

just make s you look like fucking gay dogooders , who don't really DO anything, except have fun leaping from cliffs n' shit! and pretending to be doing something for peace.

i hate PC crap like this!

oh , wait, i just heard on the news that there's massive world wide peace , because of what you did!

i stand corrected!!

Yo! I just got the soup you ordered, No more sucking urine in the Lil Colorado with a 60cm tube. Email your address.
Take care,
space
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Re: [unclecharlie95] BASE for Peace - 21way for the 21st of September
unclecharlie95 wrote:
bor wrote:
I see storm clouds forming over the ITW

and bor, i see you don't post much, a good thing, but your last 3 posts have all been "critical" of my behavior.

If you have something to get off your chest call me: +39 349 436 4541 or come see me at ITW. Or maybe you're not gay*?

Yes Im critical of your "behaviour" and it must be discussed publicly.

I think you should resign from "boss of the ITW" position, or, if there are no other candidates for the job you should kick yourself and start working.

As it was expressed better by others organizing multiway is the last thing this site and especially our sport needs. In eyes of the wuffos thats nothing more than 20 moronic adrenalin junkies jumping together.

Here are some of my ideas what can be done there to present our activity as a serious sport, make it a part of local turism, attraction and to make jumping safer. I think thats the only way to keep the site legal no mather the accidents, local elections or other variables.

1. every sport needs competitions. Instead of "record multiway" you could organize WBR type of speed competiton, gps supported full glide ws and tracking, target, best video, best video combined with other sport (like nissan outdoor games), aerials with paralel camera,...

2. Open door day. Invite local people and turists to visit the landing area ot maybe even the exi to watch and talk to jumpers.

3. Rewrite the "ITW rules". In some points they look like a joke. Install these rules on a board near the bar or at the packing area where wuffos can see that we are organized. Other notifications regarding site issues, weather, classifieds, money raisings, what to do in case od an accident,...... could be presented on this board.

4. Meteo station as it is is of no big help. Around here every main paraglider start has a meteo station with automatic answering machine reporting wind speeds and direction. Over and over we are in situation where we are jumping in high winds or not jumping beacuse of high winds at the exit while on landing everything is calm.

5. Also it is obvoius that a site and sport needs some sort of first jump and/or introductiory course (kjerag type). I also follow the italian forum and I noticed that the beginners are a problem.
I still dont know why you tried to discredit and mine the idea of the guy with the "storm clouds over ITW" thread?

6. Transportation?! Because the transportation is not solved jumpers without drivers are making unnecesarry double driving (once for the jump and once for the car) up and annoying locals up there.

7. Speed reduction and zebra between landing and parking.

Maybe somebody else has some other ideas.

Now I hope you understand my issues with you or better said with your job there. And, please!, stop insulting me with robot and gay* stuff.

Bor
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Re: [bor] BASE for Peace - 21way for the 21st of September
hahahahaha, Bor you are a gay* robot Smile
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Re: [unclecharlie95] BASE for Peace - 21way for the 21st of September
good work Wink
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Re: [bor] BASE for Peace - 21way for the 21st of September
Send me a PM or otherwise go to Verona DZ and they will have most things you request. IMHO it seems that you do not know what we have achieved with the Gov there or what they denied us. I will try to address each of your challenges publicly. If you want to put more effort into this than the locals (me included), then do so. We have worked hard and are welcome to introductory new ideas. That being said, 6 out of your 7 ideas have been approached AFAIK.
2 more requests from you if you want to be taken seriously:
Leave out personal disagreements.
Tell what you have done in your own country in the same venue and the results.


I will address #7 1st.:
#7. Speed reduction and zebra between landing and parking.
You are dealing with with so many divisions of government here.
Department of District,
Department of State,
Department of Traffic Safety,
Department of Tourism,
Department of Ecology,
Department of Transportation
etc.
When was the last time you´ve had heard of a pedestrian, climber, spectator, BASEr getting hit by a car on this stretch of highway as compared to traffic accidents all together. Take this as task number one.
Not to mention that the main LZ is off limits to any developments due to it being a protected area (that includes it being a designated landing area). and the parking and packing area is private. The meteo station you say is of no big help? I think it was almost 1 year to get permits to erect it. Maybe because this is one of the most phenomenal Valleys in the Alps (Longest north/south glacial with a huge lake at the lower end). Maybe a 1000m antennae with anemometers every 250m would be sufficient to define wind direction/velocity would work. You could tie it in like those German Ampleman traffic lights to show when it is allowed to cross the road. You know, get to the exit point and wait for the greenman light to light up. but you could through in another column for state of dress. Wing suit green, Trackers yellow and without a clue red.. Ahhhh sounds so simple.. Your answer lies in your very statement
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Over and over we are in situation where we are jumping in high winds or not jumping beacuse of high winds at the exit while on landing everything is calm.
. If you are jumping in high winds..... duh. Blaming on anyone else sounds not so clever. I personally never jump in winds I do not understand because I am not good enough. but to each his/her own. Also, I cannot believe you didnt mention where there are no winds on the exit point and the Ora wind is kicking ass at 25-30 mph (40-48kmh) at the LZ (this is mostly normal at very regular times during the day during "fair weather days", Actually "Ora" means "punctual". A punctual wind so to speak. Same wind, Same time, different day. Hint, clocks work better than anemometers sometimes. What about tri or quad level winds? 3 or 4 different level winds 90° out from each?
Work on it. Speak with us locals. Let us know. I promise that you will be listened to. Sorry to sound so hard you. But we have worked on this for 10+ years. Some things are in the works wishing well as always.

allegorical story: At one engineering firm I worked with, there was a Physicist that always proposed every negative effect of any idea I had and why it would not work therefore. So I learned how to use this as a tool and designed some cool stuff that worked quite well.
So dont let me get you down on ideas just because I may seem negative and "bor" is also the 1st 3 letters from robot.
Take care,
Tracy