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just curious what people prefer doing all else being equal.

yep, a running exit is even better, but not always feasible.

Left foot forward, just feels right.

Its funny, when I think about it a go even, when it's impulsive or a two way or something I always go left foot forward, noticed it in videos.

agreed.
it permits a moving exit.
it is more like a balanced fighter's stance.
it keeps me off the very edge until exit time.
it also can mean my feet are on different surfaces.

Yeah, but how many times do you ever have to thump someone on an exit point?

the balance helps on uneven terrain, wind gusts, loose rocks, etc.

fighters must be able to deliver force, as does an exiting jumper... (and who jumps a ditch by first standing there, feet together? )

just saying... even though most people seem to disagree.

Never been standing on the edge of a cliff. but when jumping off a diving platform/bridge/trampoline both feet even feels right for me. gives me a better balance.

Standing exit,..all else being equal.
You'll be able to push farther away from the object with both feet even on the edge. With a one legged exit you're only using half your power, like a 6 cylinder car only running on 3 cylinders.

Uneven terrain isn't all else being equal . Unless I'm able to run or take several steps, I stand however the terrain makes me stand. It's usually feet together or in a manner that allows me to push with both legs.

For instance, take a straight even edge of a building. Toes hanging over, feet even. You simply have more power to push away from the building.

i was always told two feet together can make it easier to push off too hard and go head low..such as how a door pivots on a frame

It's not how you place your feet that puts you head low, it's how you launch. No matter how hard you push, you should be able to launch head high. If you go head low when you push too hard then go back and practice into a pool or wherever till you get it right. I always taught my students to push as if your life depends on it, because it does!

l think I have seen more people just sort of fall/step off when two footed versus those that I have seen one foot launch.. why..I don't know..maybe because one foot launching can be a bigger more stable launch and requires you not to forget to step away, but I agree...in the end its all about pushing as if your life depends on it

freefallfiend has the best two footed launch I have seen

Thanks, although the funny thing is i prefer the left foot forward. That being said, I do know two footed launches you harder, thats why when it really counts, like gaining separation for aerials, I do two feet together and launch as hard as I can.

ever turned to an overzealous, pathetic, inept security guard whos chasing you on the corner of a building because hes trying to be a hero, kicked him straight in the shin with a steeltoed boot, and cracked that motherfucker right in the jaw, knocking his 2 front teeth out before and then turning and exiting?

me neither, but it would make3 for a helluva story

My feet are usually below me when I am standing at an exit point.

Ody

do you actually use 100% of your jump ability to get off the object? i dont find a need to use 100% power to get off an object

I did. I almost always pushed with all my power. The extra distance saved my ass more than once. The objects we have here are slider off, so there's no tracking. If you have time to track than you don't need to push with 100% of your power. (guess I should've stated that first) The exception was when the winds were strong enough to do floaters off our "A"

interesting, i can see how it can help to get the extra foot away from the object, but just to give you some more thouht about your thought process...

if you have 1 foot back, you are building up momentum before jumping off, it may have the same effect of using both feet together :)

i usually keep my feet together right before exit. If something is gonna fuck me, I'd rather wait until after exit. Oh yeah, and there's probably no right answer to this one, like most things in this sport there's pros and cons to each and either will probably work differently for different people.

Sprinters take off with one foot in front of the other and they are all about getting maximum horizontal speed as quickly as possible.

Divers go feet together and they are all about controlled freefall.

That said, if you're on the rain slicked edge of a slippery steel shod B-exit it does make it easier to push off evenly and strongly with both toes hooked over the edge

This was my technique and what worked best for me. We did test to see if the one foot rocking motion worked better, but it didn't.
Note in the article that arms are 15% of your power.

http://captnj.blogspot.com/...oad-jump-part-1.html

In the end do what works best for you

hope you practice a lot, unless you are parkour master it seems like a lot to think about on top of a normal jump, but thanks for the link :).

Uh, yeah... they're also about setting up for the next step.

Some wierd logic being thrown around on this topic - what do fighters do, what do sprinters do - I was under the impression that we were jumpers.

Sorry I thought this was a forum for escaping schoolyard bullies

I was thinking about this the other day when someone pointed out about slipping and falling on exit in icy conditions. I have seen it happen on completely dry exit points as well.

We figured this out later, the possibility of this happening increases if the person exiting tries to push away along the surface rather than into it.

Hope the attached pics(Slip1 and Push) make this somewhat clear.

I guess that depends on what is needed to survive the object in question. Just dropping off would suffice at a terminal cliff with nice long delay to impact. Places where a good sprint is required to live, I hope that those guys won't be asking questions as they have done enough jumps to figure it out for themselves .

For everything in between shouldn't a stable solid exit be sufficient?

Pics are right, but there are exit points that slope up as you move towards the exit, the pics fall over in these cases. Best friction would definitely be with the pressure at right angles to the edge, but if you have to get horizontal separation sometimes you have to have less perfect friction.

So crampons come into it here I guess? Or using small features on the rock to push off as well as up from.

I guess the ethics of modifying the exit surface to improve friction depends on the location right?

The principle is the same push directly into the surface, not along it. Just choose the correct surface.

Like in the pic? I didn't consciously think of it until after the slip incident, that's just how my exit is for whatever reason.

If I had to jump from an icy exit point, having the benefit of learning from past incidents, I will choose exits where I can simply drop off without a push and use the suit/track to create separation.