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not talking about railing a girl named perrine =D.

but i have noticed on FB a lot of people posting pics with people getting an extra 4' and standing on the rail, a lot more then usual. when i was there this was looked down upon, is there a new set of rules or something?
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Re: [JBag] perrine rail
 
2) Please do not stand on top of the handrail.

The answer is posted in the sight guidelines section of the forums under general base, it's sticky and not hard to find, its number two on the request list after contacting the sheriff.Crazy
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Re: [JBag] perrine rail
i would rather rail a girl called perrine with an extra 4' hahahhah jbag you funny fuck.....

p.s watch out for rocks when landing in high winds...WinkWinkWink

JBag wrote:
not talking about railing a girl named perrine =D.

but i have noticed on FB a lot of people posting pics with people getting an extra 4' and standing on the rail, a lot more then usual. when i was there this was looked down upon, is there a new set of rules or something?
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Re: [epibase] perrine rail
Gotcha, glad to know that, makes things a lot easier without an exit platform.
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Re: [tommybrown] perrine rail
the "don't jump the rail" guide is conservative, and thus basically valid.

standing on the rail draws attention, and could distract drivers, risks slowing traffic, and generate ill-will.

standing on the rail draws attention, and could remind the locals about BASE and help build support in the community.

like which size pc to use, s/l or hh, acceptable winds or not, each jumper gets to choose. few get abused for being conservative and cautious. get overly aggressive and stupid, then social pressures emerge.
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Re: [wwarped] perrine rail
Thank you almighty Oracle moderator. The fruitful wisdom you spill daily is unrivaled by Plato, Socrates, and even Jesus. It must give you great comfort at night knowing just how much your always useful words have advanced BASE and everything involved in it. Look forward to meeting you one day. Name again?
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Re: [epibase] perrine rail
epibase wrote:
it was one of Aiello's dispersions

The rail guideline was originally developed by Harry Parker, Dennis McGlynn and Avery Badenhop, working with the Highway Board (the governing body for the ITD), when they held their IPBC events at the Perrine around 2000.

In general, standing on the rail has far more potential to distract drivers on the bridge, because a jumper on the outside of the rail looks pretty much just like a pedestrian on the sidewalk, to someone driving by, where a person standing on top of the rail is far more likely to attract attention.

The ITD's main (pretty much only, really) concern is that traffic move smoothly across the bridge. It seems silly to stand on top of the rail and risk creating a motor vehicle accident (by distracting a driver), when the ITD has clearly stated that their only concern with jumping would be if it impeded traffic flow (i.e. if we distracted a driver and caused a car crash).

Not sure what exactly you mean by it being one of "Aiello's dispersions"? Perhaps you could elaborate?
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Re: [JBag] perrine rail
They say you shouldn't jump the rail because it distracts the drivers on the road. Do you think the drivers on the road give us that much consideration when they honk their horns as we're about to jump? I hope they crash. Its each man for his own.
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Re: [Kiki32] perrine rail
Laugh
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Re: [TomAiello] perrine rail
TomAiello wrote:
The ITD's main (pretty much only, really) concern is that traffic move smoothly across the bridge. It seems silly to stand on top of the rail and risk creating a motor vehicle accident (by distracting a driver), when the ITD has clearly stated that their only concern with jumping would be if it impeded traffic flow (i.e. if we distracted a driver and caused a car crash).

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Kiki32 wrote:
I hope they crash.


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Re: [MBA-PATTO] perrine rail
MBA-PATTO wrote:
i would rather rail a girl called perrine with an extra 4' hahahhah jbag you funny fuck.....

p.s watch out for rocks when landing in high winds... Wink Wink Wink

JBag wrote:
not talking about railing a girl named perrine =D.

but i have noticed on FB a lot of people posting pics with people getting an extra 4' and standing on the rail, a lot more then usual. when i was there this was looked down upon, is there a new set of rules or something?

im gonna cunt punt the first fuck to put rocks in my way while landing, damn bolders moving all the time and shit! :)


EDIT: thanks for the update on it. good to know more info on it besides, its not allowed :)
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Re: [JBag] perrine rail
Sounds fun

http://vimeo.com/13903100
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Re: [JBag] perrine rail
Yes, times have changed in Twin Falls, and the local authorities are all up to speed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or09s-WxqbY

Tom's post may have had some merit at one point in time, but the rail rule/ suggestion is kind of like prohibition of alcohol, or slavery. Just something left, thankfully, in the past and not to be revisited.

edited to make the link live
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Re: [jtholmes] perrine rail
jtholmes wrote:
Yes, times have changed in Twin Falls, and the local authorities are all up to speed.

That's great news!

I know the Sheriff's offices don't have authority over the bridge itself, because whenever you ask them about official policy they refer you back to the Transportation Board up in Boise (the group appointed by the governor to oversee the Transportation department). It's great to here that someone got the Board to sign off on that.

Who was it that finally went up to a Transportation Board meeting and got them to change their request? Can you tell us when it happened, and where we can find out more info? Maybe the minutes of the meeting where someone presented to them, like Avery and Harry did?

Thanks!
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Re: [jtholmes] perrine rail
jtholmes wrote:
the rail rule/ suggestion is kind of like prohibition of alcohol, or slavery. Just something left, thankfully, in the past and not to be revisited.

if it's "not to be revisited," why bring it up? why make the video?

even if the authorities do NOT care, the "don't jump the rail" policy remains sound.
it reminds me of these rules/suggestions/guidelines
- contact the locals
- have 200 skydives before BASE jumping
- wear body armor
- don't jump while intoxicated
- be patient, the objects will be there later
- don't dayblaze
- learn how to track before wearing a wingsuit
- have ground crew
- don't use a packing aid with your pc
- etc.

obviously, the above list could be quite extensive. just as obviously, they get "violated" as well. it's not hard to find a video of people jumping the potato bridge without a helmet. one accident showed how valuable a helmet can be, even there.

that bridge attracts a lot of stupid acts. most end up fun and on video. for such a simple object, it also has way too many fatalities. people seem to get careless there.
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Re: [wwarped] perrine rail
I would rather jump from the ledge than the rail anyways. Think people are making a big deal out of nothing. Most jumpers dont want to stand on the rail anyways either. Base jumpers just dont like being told "NO". "I" think we should try to safeguard the Perrine for base jumpers. Use common sense and solid ethics so that we dont endanger our objects legal status, That being said, Its not illegal to jump from the rail, but use your best judgement as to when you make your rail jump if you do.
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Re: [_cuzucan_] perrine rail
"Most jumpers dont want to stand on the rail anyways either"..........................

Says who?

and you know this how?

PS ---- FYI: "anyways" is not a word
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Re: [dride] perrine rail
Lol flame on. Thanks for the English lesson. I know this from the small amount of time I was there the only rail jumps I saw were the one time (one week) for the bridge day festival.
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Re: [jtholmes] perrine rail
jtholmes wrote:
Yes, times have changed in Twin Falls, and the local authorities are all up to speed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or09s-WxqbY

I am not sayn' anything about what I believe the rules and/or ethics should be or are... But I disagree with the use of this video to prove anything about policies of standing on the rail.

The state department of transportation owns the bridge and can set any rules they like, or can write official policy in board meetings. The local sheriff may or may not know that policy, and may or may not be charged with enforcing that policy, just like he may or may not know every traffic law he can or should enforce.

Before asking the sheriff to participate in this video, did the participants disclose there is a long standing confusion in the community as to if there are any policies in place about standing on the rail set forth by the bridge owners, and by participating in this promotional video for an event, the sheriff would indirectly be approving standing on the rail and setting policy, which has been debated or discussed for years in our community? Seems like the sheriff might have been cornered, perhaps deceptively, into something he was not willing to tackle, or something he had no authority to tackle.
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Re: [JBag] perrine rail
OK OK OK
The deal with the rail prohibition was simply this... It was discovered during an early trip there that my knees knock at precisely the resonant frequency of the rail system of the bridge. If I stood too long on the rail whimpering about going the entire bridge would start to shake rattle and moan. It was at that time that standing on the rail was prohibited. Now that I have moved along, nothing to see folks, the prohibition can be lifted. Have fun youze muggs.

jon
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Re: [_cuzucan_] perrine rail
_cuzucan_ wrote:
I know this from the small amount of time I was there the only rail jumps I saw were the one time (one week) for the bridge day festival.

Standing on the rail when there is a large event going on isn't really going to distract traffic any more than the large event. People will already be slowing down and looking to see what that big group of people is doing out there. Adding people on top of the rail (especially more than one person), isn't going to be a big deal.

It's standing on the rail when you're out there alone that is likely to startle a driver and distract them. Especially if you are all alone (i.e. they might think you are in the process of committing suicide).

I'd hate for us jumpers to be set up as the fall guy if the local sheriff and the state transportation board don't see eye to eye on this. And I think that's exactly the position we've placed ourselves in if push comes to shove.

Still, if the state ever does come down about it, then the definitely the first thing to do is trot out that video and point the finger back at the sheriff.